bonnie Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 http://youtu.be/ge3aGJfDSg4 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted September 18, 2012 Moderators Posted September 18, 2012 Lol, lol, You guys are desperate!!! Stop it please. It's embarrassing. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted September 18, 2012 Author Posted September 18, 2012 Lol, lol, You guys are desperate!!! Stop it please. It's embarrassing. Never thought it would happen but we finally agree. We the citizens of this country are in a desperate situation from a secular point of view.Yes,there are many that wish it would stop.I wholeheartedly agree,it is embarrassing.But embarrassment is the least of it. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Neil D Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/d...e190_story.html Battered by two days of relentless news coverage dissecting his assertion, caught on video, that “47 percent” of Americans feel entitled to government assistance, Mitt Romney is banking that a 14-year-old video clip of President Obama can help him change the subject. Just days after promising to begin sharing more specifics of his economic plan, Romney is now using newspaper op-eds, television interviews and campaign memos to draw attention to comments Obama made in a 1998 about the redistribution of government resources in hopes of drawing sharper distinctions between the rival campaigns. Audio of Obama speaking at a 1998 Loyola University conference first surfaced Tuesday afternoon. Obama is heard discussing his concerns with government efficiency and suggests that society needed to find a way to “structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level, to make sure that everybody’s got a shot.” Within hours, Romney mentioned the Obama audio during a Fox News interview that had been booked to address questions about the videotape of his remarks at a private Florida fundraiser that disparaged nearly half the country as too dependent on federal aid. “The president’s view is one of a larger government; I disagree,” Romney told Fox host Neil Cavuto. “I think a society based on a government-centered nation, where government plays a larger and larger role, redistributes money, that’s the wrong course for America.” In a USA Today op-ed published Wednesday, Romney said: “Under President Obama, we have a stagnant economy that fosters government dependency. My policies will create a growing economy that fosters upward mobility.” In the op-ed Romney mentions briefly, but doesn’t detail, his five-point economic plan. Campaign aides had promised earlier this week that Romney was going to focus more on specific proposals as voters turn more of their attention to the campaign. But in a memo to reporters Wednesday, Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades said that the campaign now plans to focus on the rivals’ “starkly different visions” for the country. “Mitt Romney’s vision for America is an opportunity society, where free people and free enterprise thrive and success is admired and emulated, not attacked,” Rhoades wrote. “President Obama’s vision for America is a government-centered society, where government grows bigger and more active, occupying more of our everyday lives.” The memo was followed by a flurry of campaign e-mails highlighting supportive statements from lawmakers, state party chairman and business leaders conveying the new message. On the campaign trail Wednesday, Romney’s running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), tweaked his standard stump speech to include a reference to the Obama audiotape. “He’s going to try and distract and divide this country to win by default,” Ryan said during an event in Danville, Va. “You know, President Obama said that he believes in redistribution. Mitt Romney and I are not running to redistribute the wealth. Mitt Romney and I are running to help Americans create wealth.” On Capitol Hill, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), said that he knows Romney wishes he’d “phrased things differently” in his closed-door remarks, but then turned to Obama’s comments, calling them “more insight into what he views government’s role as.” “This is a president who believes the government’s job is to pick winners and losers in the economy,” Rubio said. In response, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt suggested that Republicans were desperately embracing “the failed playbook co-authored by Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber” in 2008. LaBolt said in an e-mail that in the 1998 audio, Obama was arguing for “a more efficient, more effective government – specifically citing city government agencies that he didn’t think were working effectively.” Obama, “believed then, and believes now, that there are steps we can take to promote opportunity and ensure that all Americans have a fair shot if they work hard.” Staff writers Felicia Sonmez, Rosalind S. Helderman and Sean Sullivan contributed to this report. Talk about passing on dis-information.....Romney again doing everything he can to dis-inform the people of the US.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
Moderators lazarus Posted September 19, 2012 Moderators Posted September 19, 2012 Never thought it would happen but we finally agree. We the citizens of this country are in a desperate situation from a secular point of view.Yes,there are many that wish it would stop.I wholeheartedly agree,it is embarrassing.But embarrassment is the least of it. What would happen if we posted tape from Romney 18 years ago. Pro Abortion Pro single payer Pro outsourcing This is fun. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted September 19, 2012 Author Posted September 19, 2012 What would happen if we posted tape from Romney 18 years ago. Pro Abortion Pro single payer Pro outsourcing This is fun. That is a distinct possibility. Romney has not always held true conservative views. Obama has always had a distinct socialist ideology Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted September 19, 2012 Moderators Posted September 19, 2012 Obama has always had a distinct socialist ideology No evidence for that. Just Fox and the internets. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted September 19, 2012 Author Posted September 19, 2012 What would happen if we posted tape from Romney 18 years ago. Pro Abortion Pro single payer Pro outsourcing This is fun. Obama "evolved" or changed his view on gay marriage,in a small part because of his pre-teen daughters. He used to be against it. Early term abortion stance would not be a deciding factor for me.It is legal and nothing I can do about it. If it comes out that Romney at anytime advocated or worked against basic humane care for an aborted infant that didn't have the good sense to be born dead,I would not vote for him or anyone. I would not let my dog die alone,let alone try to kill it and failing let it lay there alone. Any person that can advocate that type of act lacks the most elementary decency Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted September 19, 2012 Author Posted September 19, 2012 Pro outsourcing This is fun. Outsourcing jobs has been a fact of life for some time. We are long past when we can buy "Made in the USA" for most of our items.But...... Tags: 2012 President Race | jobs | panel | outsourced | jobs | obama | china Report: Members of Obama's Job Panel Outsourced Jobs to China Thursday, 06 Sep 2012 04:05 PM By Todd Beamon Share: More . . . A A | Email Us | Print | Forward Article inShare Despite President Barack Obama’s attacks on Mitt Romney on outsourcing, several members of the president’s jobs-creation council manage or advise companies that import cheaper goods from overseas instead of buying American, U.S. trade records show. Import records from the U.S. Commerce Department show that the companies affiliated with the 23 active and 3 ex-officio members of the President's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness imported 12,366 shipments from China alone during the 18 months since they began advising the White House in January 2011. The shipments totaled more than 20 billion pounds in weight, according to a review of the records by the Washington Guardian. Urgent Poll: Romney Vs. Obama – VOTE NOW! Just over half the council members were linked to companies that reported Chinese imports ranging from bulk steel and furniture to airline parts, appliance electronics and cosmetics, the Guardian reports. “Why is stuff outsourced?” asked James T. Bennett, a George Mason University economics professor. “The answer is, in those cases, the work abroad is much cheaper than it is in the United States. It’s market forces that create outsourcing of jobs, and it does not matter who is president. It is going to continue.” The Commerce Department data do not indicate the value of the imports, and it is impossible to quantify what percentage of supplies the companies get from overseas. But some of the firms tied to Jobs Council members acknowledge it is significant. Among the companies cited in the report were chemical giant DuPont, Boeing and the Hyatt hotel chain. White House and Obama campaign officials declined to comment to the Guardian, despite repeated requests via email and phone. But representatives of the companies make no apologies and say the imports are simply a matter of bargain shopping. Read more on Newsmax.com: Report: Members of Obama's Job Panel Outsourced Jobs to China Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now! Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted September 19, 2012 Author Posted September 19, 2012 'Washington Post' Backs Off Claim Romney Outsourced Jobs John Nolte 2 Jul 2012 After being caught for the third time in as many months coordinating with the Obama campaign to attack Mitt Romney, the Washington Post finally -- in the most cowardly and slippery manner imaginable -- came clean today regarding the provably false charge that the presumptive GOP nominee outsourced American jobs during his tenure at Bain Capital: The actual [Washington Post article in question] article, in fact, does not say that transfers of U.S. jobs took place while Romney ran the private equity firm of Bain Capital. … The Obama campaign moved quickly to define what the article said, claiming that this transfer of jobs took place while Romney ran Bain. That’s not what the original article said. This is how dishonest media cowards who wake up in the morning with David Axelrod nuzzling their ear correct maliciously-timed, journalistic hit jobs that can no longer withstand scrutiny. What the Post's "fact checker," Glenn Kessler, is doing here is two-fold: First, Kessler's attempting to rewrite and loophole the Post's butt out of a sling. Now that it's been proven Romney is only responsible for creating American jobs and not outsourcing them, Kessler wants us to believe the Post's front-page hit-piece never (who us?) claimed Romney was responsible for outsourcing. Are you going to believe Kessler, or your lying eyes? The Post's own headline: Romney’s Bain Capital invested in companies that moved jobs overseas And I cannot be more clear in stating, once again, that this front page feature piece with a headline that is nothing more than a lie, ran the day after the Obama campaign launched its dishonest outsourcing attack. If you don't think this was coordinated, you don’t think at all. Kessler can rationalize and parse and shimmy-shammy like some hustler trying to convince us the stereo in his trunk isn't stolen, but the intent of the Post hit is all that matters, and the intent was to jump on and aid and abet Obama's new attack strategy for maximum damage. This is how the Post and the Obama campaign team up to create false narratives and to help President FailureTeleprompter do the most important work he can before Labor Day, and that's define Mitt Romney. Something even the slippery Kessler cannot parse, though, is that the Post's article references two companies responsible for outsourcing that Bain didn't acquire until after Romney left the venture capital firm! And where's Kessler's explanation for why the Post cited no outsourcing numbers to substantiate its lying headline? Why doesn't Kessler explain to us why the Post either didn’t bother to contact or bother to quote the CEOs of the companies in question, who would've told them in no uncertain terms that no outsourcing occurred under Romney's tenure at Bain (just answered my own question, didn't I?). Why does Kessler ignore the fact that the Post lied through the art of omission by not reporting the fact that SEC filings prove no American call centers were moved overseas but that these overseas call centers already existed when Bain acquired the companies in question? Furthermore, the numbers of AMERICAN jobs at call centers INCREASED under Romney's tenure. Instead of answering these inconvenient questions, what does the oh-so-respected and Orwellian-named Washington Post fact checker do? Well, that's the second thing… Kessler shamelessly signals to the Obama campaign that it can continue lying about Romney's record by citing the Post's dishonest reporting…. The Obama campaign moved quickly to define what the article said, claiming that this transfer of jobs took place while Romney ran Bain. That’s not what the original article said. … Given that this debate involves an interpretation of a Post article, we are not going to award any Pinocchios. That's right, even though FactCheck.org has declared the new Obama ads dishonest, and Kessler even says the ads are dishonest…. One of [the Obama campaign's] outsourcing ads before the article ran, in fact, earned Four Pinocchios. These new ads would not fare much better; there is little in the Post article that backs up the Obama campaign’s spin …Kessler refuses to award Pinnocchios. Which means that under the imprimatur of the Washington Post, the Obama campaign is free to continue lying about Romney being an outsourcer-in-chief -- which further means that the conspiracy hatched between the Post and the Obama campaign to flat-out lie about Romney is free to continue unabated. TEN DAYS LATER, after its story completely falls apart under the pressing weight of what you and I call facts, in so many Clintonesque words, the corrupt Post finally admits Romney is not responsible for outsourcing... but only does so by burying that fact in a piece published long after Team Obama has been allowed to use the Post's dishonest reporting to lie about Romney in a massive ad campaign. And as far as the Post is concerned, it is okey-doke by them if the Obama campaign continues to lie, using them as cover. It's as if Politico and the Washington Post entered a contest to see which failing news outlet could disgrace themselves more before the year was out. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Neil D Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 opinion from Marilyn Gerber Marilyn Gerber 5:13 AM - Mobile - Public Republicans are trying to counter Mitt's "47%" video with a video from 1998 of Obama saying government should "facilitate some redistribution." It turns out Republicans have conveniently cut off that video right before Obama discusses "competition" and "the marketplace," which makes the President seem like the capitalism-supporting sort of guy he is. Full quote below. -John "I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities." -Obama In rest of '98 clip, Obama speaks of 'competition' and 'the marketplace' Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw
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