The oppressed + down-trodden throughout Christendom -where do they go?

[Woody]

This is what Ellen White said:

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"Republicanism and Protestantism became the fundamental principles of the nation. These principles are the secret of its power and prosperity. The oppressed and down-trodden throughout Christendom have turned to this land with interest and hope. Millions have sought its shores, and the United States has risen to a place among the most powerful nations of the earth." {GC88 441.1}

[BobRyan]

And now both are in serious jeopardy in our nation

[Gibs]

The Saints will be persecuted and many to death and all will be completely depleted of means.

With Mitt at the helm ( I think he will be ) we will go to war for Iran, then shortly this country will crash, by hyper inflation and no bail outs will come.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[Bravus]

Of course, we understand she didn't mean the Republican party, but the fact that America is a republic rather than a monarchy... right?

[Stan]

True.

[Naomi]

Of course, we understand she didn't mean the Republican party, but the fact that America is a republic rather than a monarchy... right?

Right-on!! As with many of her statements, this quote has been often been misused or misunderstood.

[phkrause]

Of course, we understand she didn't mean the Republican party, but the fact that America is a republic rather than a monarchy... right?

Exactly Bravus, good point.

[phkrause]

Originally Posted By: Bravus

Of course, we understand she didn't mean the Republican party, but the fact that America is a republic rather than a monarchy... right?

Right-on!! As with many of her statements, this quote has been often been misused or misunderstood.

I don't believe its been misunderstood, maybe purposely misused, that's for sure.

[Naomi]

[Woody]

Okay - for balance ;

"Laws enforcing the observance of Sunday as the Sabbath will bring about a national apostasy from the principles of republicanism upon which the government has been founded. The religion of the Papacy will be accepted by the rulers, and the law of God will be made void." {20MR 14.2}

[Gibs]

Yes this country was established a republic and a Chritian nation in protestantism.

Now protestantism is dead. Now it is not a republic but a democracy where now with all the unchristian immigration and the majority rules in a democracy Christianity will be killed. The constitution is now null and void, maritime or international law is upheld in the court systems.

For a country to not fall it must not allow non Christian immigration . God did not ever want His people to mix with the worlds peoples.

Yes because we have not kept our trust this nation will fall. Only the few faithful ones to Him left in her can be Blessed of Him Satan has his blessings for the rest, are you interested in them?

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[CoAspen]

Yes this country was established a republic and a Chritian nation in protestantism.

Now protestantism is dead. Now it is not a republic but a democracy where now with all the unchristian immigration and the majority rules in a democracy Christianity will be killed. The constitution is now null and void, maritime or international law is upheld in the court systems.

For a country to not fall it must not allow non Christian immigration . God did not ever want His people to mix with the worlds peoples.

WOW! Tell Us how you really feel! And all this time I thought we were a 'Free' country with out regard to religion, etc! Oh, that's right, we are! Sad, a very Sad comment, possibly with out thinking of what they were saying.

Card Carrying members of christianity only need to apply to this country and we need to set up committees and panels of righteous persons to make those decisions. Wait, I think that was tried in back in history...more than once, was it called the Inquisition or some such thing? Bring back the Crusades!!! Sign up right here! Rid the country of the Heathen!

[Woody]

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Rid the country of the Heathen!

Good One CoA. May I be the first to submit a couple suggestions?

[Gibs]

It is only common sense that God would not allow His people in the beginning to mix it up with the evil ones of the world. He wanted His people to come apart and be a PURE people. A little leaven leavens the whole lump, and here we let in so much of the evil leaven that it has taken rule.

I do not care to live among the very ones the LORD God would have me be separate from. I am apalled that we have Christians that want to let in the riff raff and live among them and then soon being in the majority rule over you.

Don't you see that is what has happened? What kind of rulership do we have now? One that has this once rich country in absolute poverty. Can you not see this economy is going to crash and yet the idiots that have taken over are spending us deeper in the hole. We are now owned by foreign interests and they will take over this country. This country is about to be split up among I find by four main ones.

Yes gentlemen, this country is falling now and will fall completely and the fall of her will be great.

Did you gents ever read George Washingtons vision? Yes he saw her brought down, way down!

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[Tom Wetmore]

No. You are wrong.

And what you have just given us a glimpse of is the danger of mixing ones religion and ones political ideology. It soon becomes very difficult to tell them apart and to disentangle them.

[Gail]

Originally Posted By: Gibs

Yes this country was established a republic and a Chritian nation in protestantism.

Now protestantism is dead. Now it is not a republic but a democracy where now with all the unchristian immigration and the majority rules in a democracy Christianity will be killed. The constitution is now null and void, maritime or international law is upheld in the court systems.

For a country to not fall it must not allow non Christian immigration . God did not ever want His people to mix with the worlds peoples.

WOW! Tell Us how you really feel! And all this time I thought we were a 'Free' country with out regard to religion, etc! Oh, that's right, we are! Sad, a very Sad comment, possibly with out thinking of what they were saying.

Card Carrying members of christianity only need to apply to this country and we need to set up committees and panels of righteous persons to make those decisions. Wait, I think that was tried in back in history...more than once, was it called the Inquisition or some such thing? Bring back the Crusades!!! Sign up right here! Rid the country of the Heathen!

The country that was in part founded by those wanting to escape religious persecution did not forsake it themselves... (thinking witch trials and the Scarlet Letter mentality)

[Gibs]

Since sin entered and we have a Satan and a mirad of evil spirits with him the True Christian will have a fierce battle. That battle is going to intensify rapidly now, as Satan is soon to step forward in a bodily appearance. When the stage is fully set and readied by his among men then it will be, all in God's timing and allowing. God has held it back but those holding angels it seems are beginning even now to start turning loose.

God will when He comes separate His Beloved from the fierce anger of the world toward them. Never to be among the ones who will not be of Him and Love and Honor Him as He is Deserved. What a glorious day that will be. We have a "red sea" to go through first is all.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[CoAspen]

[CoAspen]

Yup...and those ideas have never gone completely away...as TW said...religion and political mixing is the most dangerous. Religious thinking was behind the KKK, Nazism, the militia groups of this country, etc, etc.

We all fail to emulate Christ as long as we have beliefs or feelings of superiority to anyone because of who, what or how they believe.

[Gibs]

The opressed which will soon be all true Christians and these will be by other faiths plus the unrighteous rule of the land over us.

This is what I'm trying to bring out. It will ALL be against the true Christian.

The rule of the world now is rapidly coming under Satan and I don't know if that is a religion or not but certainly the opposer and warrior against God and His people here on earth.

I'm seeing it is almost time for Satan to come forth and most I know are not.

Another question brought to view here is, did God want men to set up their own kings. No that was a mistake for man to have done. Our rule should only been under HIS appointed under shepherds.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.