skyblue888 Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 On another adventist forum, there is some talk about Obama being the "antichrist"... someone wrote: Does that have anything to do with Obama 2016? I haven't seen it. May I ask how you've reached this conclusion? Does it have anything to with the topic on this thread? (Good thing I did'nt vote for him). _________ You need to see Obama 2016, Lori. It will make you glad you didn't vote for him, and even sorrier that he was re-elected. But who knows - Romney might have been even worse. God is in control, and He knows the end from the beginning - His plan and timing are perfectly trustworthy! GJ _________ It is not Ahab (the state) we are warned against in the Scriptures but against the woman Jezebel (the church) who seeks to wield the power of the State to enforce her dogmas. It is not Obama (the state power) who is to be feared but the religious leaders who might influence Obama (representing the state) to enforce the dogmas of the church in the US and thus make an image to the papal power. Example: enforcing Sunday worship in order to appease God as populous cities shall be reduced to ruin and desolation as Satan shall bring disease and disaster upon them... As we all know, these calamities are happening as we speak. It won't be long before Jezebel shall influence the state (it does not matter who the president is) to enforce her decrees and to sustain her institutions. When Sunday, a spurious sabbath, shall be enforced upon all in the US first, and then to all the countries on the globe, the law of God will, to all intents and purposes, be made void in the land and the sins of the church will have reached unto Heaven and then the message Babylon the great is fallen, come out of her My people, will be present truth. Take your eyes off Obama. It is Jezebel--the church--who is to be feared when she shall soon speak as a dragon as she did in the days of Elijah by wielding the power of the State. sky Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
Administrators Gail Posted November 7, 2012 Administrators Posted November 7, 2012 The Bible says that there are many antichrists. Even back then there were many Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
OzarkWoman Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Obama is just another in a line of them, but basically he is a Muslim who wishes to destroy the country. He will finish that job over the next four years. Quote
Woody Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 I believe that every president in my lifetime has been accused or predicted to be anti-Christ. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
JoeMo Posted November 7, 2012 Posted November 7, 2012 Sky, I basically agree with your post. The only thing I might say is that, by my understanding of God's Word, it is the marriage of Ahab and Jezebel that (i.e., the unity of church and state)that creates the Antichrist. The kings in Rev. 17 are a reference to the state. Futhermore, the buying and selling referred to in Rev. 13:16-17 takes place in the market (a secular or state institution); not the church. Good to see you back on-line, brother! Quote
Members phkrause Posted November 8, 2012 Members Posted November 8, 2012 On another adventist forum, there is some talk about Obama being the "antichrist"... someone wrote: Does that have anything to do with Obama 2016? I haven't seen it. May I ask how you've reached this conclusion? Does it have anything to with the topic on this thread? (Good thing I did'nt vote for him). _________ You need to see Obama 2016, Lori. It will make you glad you didn't vote for him, and even sorrier that he was re-elected. But who knows - Romney might have been even worse. God is in control, and He knows the end from the beginning - His plan and timing are perfectly trustworthy! GJ _________ It is not Ahab (the state) we are warned against in the Scriptures but against the woman Jezebel (the church) who seeks to wield the power of the State to enforce her dogmas. It is not Obama (the state power) who is to be feared but the religious leaders who might influence Obama (representing the state) to enforce the dogmas of the church in the US and thus make an image to the papal power. Example: enforcing Sunday worship in order to appease God as populous cities shall be reduced to ruin and desolation as Satan shall bring disease and disaster upon them... As we all know, these calamities are happening as we speak. It won't be long before Jezebel shall influence the state (it does not matter who the president is) to enforce her decrees and to sustain her institutions. When Sunday, a spurious sabbath, shall be enforced upon all in the US first, and then to all the countries on the globe, the law of God will, to all intents and purposes, be made void in the land and the sins of the church will have reached unto Heaven and then the message Babylon the great is fallen, come out of her My people, will be present truth. Take your eyes off Obama. It is Jezebel--the church--who is to be feared when she shall soon speak as a dragon as she did in the days of Elijah by wielding the power of the State. sky I'm in agreement with you sky. The antichrist is all that are not for Christ, as Gail mentioned. I especially agree with your last few sentences. Personally I don't see Obama following the religious leaders at all, as a matter of fact they all seemed to be campaigning against him, for that reason. It will be those that think they are doing the right thing for the country. They will bring church and state together. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
skyblue888 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Posted November 8, 2012 Originally Posted By: skyblue888 On another adventist forum, there is some talk about Obama being the "antichrist"... someone wrote: Does that have anything to do with Obama 2016? I haven't seen it. May I ask how you've reached this conclusion? Does it have anything to with the topic on this thread? (Good thing I did'nt vote for him). _________ You need to see Obama 2016, Lori. It will make you glad you didn't vote for him, and even sorrier that he was re-elected. But who knows - Romney might have been even worse. God is in control, and He knows the end from the beginning - His plan and timing are perfectly trustworthy! GJ _________ It is not Ahab (the state) we are warned against in the Scriptures but against the woman Jezebel (the church) who seeks to wield the power of the State to enforce her dogmas. It is not Obama (the state power) who is to be feared but the religious leaders who might influence Obama (representing the state) to enforce the dogmas of the church in the US and thus make an image to the papal power. Example: enforcing Sunday worship in order to appease God as populous cities shall be reduced to ruin and desolation as Satan shall bring disease and disaster upon them... As we all know, these calamities are happening as we speak. It won't be long before Jezebel shall influence the state (it does not matter who the president is) to enforce her decrees and to sustain her institutions. When Sunday, a spurious sabbath, shall be enforced upon all in the US first, and then to all the countries on the globe, the law of God will, to all intents and purposes, be made void in the land and the sins of the church will have reached unto Heaven and then the message Babylon the great is fallen, come out of her My people, will be present truth. Take your eyes off Obama. It is Jezebel--the church--who is to be feared when she shall soon speak as a dragon as she did in the days of Elijah by wielding the power of the State. sky I'm in agreement with you sky. The antichrist is all that are not for Christ, as Gail mentioned. I especially agree with your last few sentences. Personally I don't see Obama following the religious leaders at all, as a matter of fact they all seemed to be campaigning against him, for that reason. It will be those that think they are doing the right thing for the country. They will bring church and state together. Amen. sky Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
skyblue888 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Posted November 8, 2012 Sky, I basically agree with your post. The only thing I might say is that, by my understanding of God's Word, it is the marriage of Ahab and Jezebel that (i.e., the unity of church and state)that creates the Antichrist. The kings in Rev. 17 are a reference to the state. Futhermore, the buying and selling referred to in Rev. 13:16-17 takes place in the market (a secular or state institution); not the church. Good to see you back on-line, brother! The church influencing the state results in the union of church and state but the church will have the ascendency, the state being her puppet. These kings in Rev.17 are "churches" These have no kingdom as yet but will receive a kingdom when church and state unite Of course the buying and selling takes place in the market but it is the church that will be behind the buy-and-sell decree. Jezebel will speak like a dragon wielding the power of the state against all who shall refuse to obey her. sky Quote "The merits of His sacrifice are sufficient to present to the Father in our behalf." S.C.36.
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