Clio Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Sevens and the Bible Sevens and the Bible The Hebrew written language has no symbols for numbers. Instead, it uses letters. In English, it would be equivalent to using the letter A for 1, the letter B for 2, C for 3, etc. However, the eleventh letter in Hebrew stands for 20 and the 22nd for 400, the 21st for 300, the 20th for 200,the 12th for 30. If one should write down the equivalent numbers for each of the Hebrew letters in the first sentence of the Bible, an amazing relationship is found. 1. The sentence has 7 Hebrew words 2. The words have 28 letters (7x40) 3. The verb has a numeric sum of 203(7x29) 4. The first three words contain the subject and have 14 letters 5. The other four words contain the objects and have 14 letters 6. The numeric sum of the first and last words is 1,333(7x199) 7. The last letters of the first and last words add to 490(7x7x10) - don’t forget that Hebrew is read right to left. 8. The sum of the middle two letters and the first and last letters is 1+40; 2+90(7x19). There are 30 combinations in this first sentence of the Bible that are divisible by 7, but these should suffice. This intricate pattern of sevens is not limited to the first verse of the Hebrew Scriptures. All of them have a similar pattern. The original Greek New testament shows it too. The Greek as the Hebrew has no number symbols and uses letters. This is miraculous. It is impossible for the finite mind of man to write this way. Only an infinite intelligence could conceive of a Code in this manner. No other written works of man contains such a Code. Yet the Bible was supposed to be written by 40 writers over 1600 years. They were obviously guided in every word they wrote by God. However, even if one considered the genealogy of Christ from Abraham, the genealogy is something that no writer could control. 1. The vocabulary has 49(7x7) words 2. 28(7x4) words begin with a vowel 3. The remaining 21(7x3) words begin with a consonant 4. 7 end with a vowel, and 42(7x6) end with a consonant 5. The 49 words have 266(7x38) letters 6. 140(7x20) are vowels, 126(7x18) are consonants 7. Of the 49 words, 7 occur in more than one form, 42(7x6) in one form only. 14 occur only once, 35(7x5) more than once. 8. 42(7x6) are nouns and 35(7x5) of them are proper names. 9. 28(7x4) are male ancestors, 7 are not. This genealogy could not be accidental because of its intricate pattern of sevens. God must have inspired all of the parents involved over many centuries to name their children so as to fit this pattern of sevens. One might wonder why God would go through so much trouble to create such an extensive and intricate patterns of sevens. IT IS HIS TRADEMARK, since only "GOD" can write in this manner, it was designed to reveal and distinguish that Scripture was of Divine Origin and what was the work of man. Add up the numbers to see if God’s trademark is there. Mark 16:9-20 1. The number of words in Greek is 175(7x25) 2. The number of forms is 133(7x19) 3. Of the forms, those occurring once is 112(7x16), those occurring more than once is 21(7x3) 4. The vocabulary has 96(7x7x2), Christ used 42(7x6) 5. The number of vowels is 294(7x7x6); consonants 259(7x37). This should suffice, but if you want more evidence, there are 75 combinations divisible by 7 in this passage. Let us look at another section. Matt.1:18-25: 1. The number of Greek words in this passage is 161(7x23) 2. The sum of all their numeric values is 93,394(7x13, 342) 3. The vocabulary has 77 words. Their numeric sum is 7x7, 515 4. Six Greek words used are found nowhere else but in Matthew. They have 56(7x8) letters. 5. The 161 words occur 105(7x15) forms. Of these forms, there are 35(7x5) verbs and 7 proper names containing 42 letters. 6. One word is used nowhere else in the New Testament, Emmanuel. Its numeric sum is 644(7x92) 7. The number of forms exclusive to this passage is 44. Their numeric sum is 8,715(7x1, 245). Within this passage is a smaller one in which the Angel of the Lord speaks to Joseph. The Angel’s words have its own pattern which dovetails into the larger passage. 1. The angel’s vocabulary is 28(7x4) words. 2. The numeric sum of all the letters is 21,042(7x3, 006) 3. The number of forms is 35(7x5).These have 168(7x24) letters. 4. The numeric sum of all these forms is 19,397(7x2, 771). There is more, but isn’t this enough? Many modernists and liberals think that many if not all of the miracles in the Bible should be deleted. If they were, the pattern of sevens would be disrupted, because they are part of the pattern. In fact, you could not add or subtract even one word in the Bible without badly upsetting the pattern. These patterns run throughout all the books of the Bible. They dovetail into each other. Probably a computer engineer can best appreciate the enormity of the problem of trying to write a whole book as large as the Bible with anything like these patterns. If all the computers in the world were hooked up together into one giant complex, there would still not be enough capacity because the numbers of combinations possible is factorial the numbers of the letters in the Bible, a sum so large that no computer can even print it out. For non-mathematicians, factorial 7=7x6x5x4x3x2x1. Can you imagine how big a number is factorial the number of letters in the Bible? I can not. It approaches my idea of infinity. Now maybe you will have a greater sense of awe at the infinite intelligence of GOD. Since GOD obviously wrote the Bible, why should anyone blink at lesser miracles? Why should anyone even try to change the Bible to fit his own desires? You had better not fool around with a GOD that can write the Bible. Whether you like it or not, you had better try to discover what the Bible has to say to YOU. To do anything less is stupid because you are dealing with the potter who made YOU, and you had better find out what his plans are for you. I did not do the research on this. It was done by Ivan Panin who died in 1942. For reprints, write: James H. Sibbet, P.O. box 5AA , Pasadena , California 91109 . Quote A heart where He alone has first place.
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted June 20, 2005 Moderators Posted June 20, 2005 Clio: I am not at a place where I have access to the Hebrew OT, and the Greek NT. But, I am convinced that there are multiple errors in the above account. I am not picking at typos. 7 x 40 is not 28, and that is a typo. Either what was meant is that 7 x 4 is 28, or that 7 X 40 is 280. Again, that is a simple typo, such as we all make. Quote Gregory
jasd Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 There is no representation or notation in gematria for zero. There is no alphabetic representation. I don’t know the esoterica of gematria; however, as I understand it -- in that there is no alphabetic representation of zero -- it is permissible to, for reasons of extraneity, ignore (or, we might say, 'drop') the zero… in the above instance. That said, it may be that, as you've noted: >>2. The words have 28 letters (7x40)<< the above seems to be a typo. Quote
Clio Posted June 20, 2005 Author Posted June 20, 2005 Hi Jasd- Not expecting it to be error-free... If you note at the bottom it indicates who the author was. I found it to be a rather interesting read, and thought others might find it to be so also. This is not the first time I have stumbled across this type of information, but I have not seen it used against New Testament as well as Old Testament texts. I had wanted to come back and post something with relation to it... but got side tracked on my way out the door to work... Can't remember what it was now... How frustrating. Clio Quote A heart where He alone has first place.
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted June 20, 2005 Moderators Posted June 20, 2005 Re: "2. The words have 28 letters (7x40)" In Biblical Hebrew, according to Kittel, there are 28 letters in the text only if you consider "Un-pointed" Hebrew. If you count the letters as written in Kittel, and count the vowels, you find that there are, if my ancient eyes are to be believed, 17 vowel letters in that first verse. 28 + 17 equals 45, which is not equally divisable by 7. I realize that a case might be made for only counting the consonants. But, I will also point out the language scholars call those Hebrew vowls letters, and the cited sentence used that word, "letters". So, I think I am being fair to ask the question. My major point is that people who develop such, often make decisions as to what they are going to do. Those reading thier conclusions often may not undersand the decisions that they have made. NOTE: For those who may challenge my statement that vowels are letters in Hebrew, I can cite authorative references on that statement. Quote Gregory
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted June 20, 2005 Moderators Posted June 20, 2005 In the first post, a reference is made to the sevens that are found in the Greek. I took my copy of the LXX (written in Greek). I counted the letters in the first verse. I found 38. That number is not divisable by 7. Why did the author pick Hebrew for Gen. 1:1, and not the Greek? People who find sets of number in the ancient languages often pick and chose in order to support their theory. Quote Gregory
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted June 21, 2005 Moderators Posted June 21, 2005 The above comments that I have made are probably picky, and can be challenged. But, there are more fundamental issues in regard to the thesis of the first post: Did God dictate the wording of the text of the OT and NT? Folks this is a fundamental question. If God did not dictate the wording, then a human element has entered into the text, and the basic thesis of the first post is destroyed. Humans were involved. But, a more fundamental question is raised for those who beleive that God dictated the text. Not a single autograph exists today. If we say that Moses wrote the book of Genesis, we do not have the manuscript that Moses wrote. All we have are copies. This is true for every book of the Bible, both the OT and the NT. We simply do not have a single autograph. None of the collection of manuscripts (MSS) that exist for any book of the Bible are exactly alike. My reference here is to the various text types, as well as other differences that have crept into the MSS. What this means is that in order to prove the thesis of the first post, one must select a MSS, or use someone elses selection. It does not matter if one has selected Kittel's Hebrew, or Westcot and Hort for the Greek, or some other selection. The proof in the numbers lies only in the MSS selected. If one were to select another, the proof would be different. There are a number of theories that have been proposed that relate to divine selection, numbers, and word order. A little over a year ago, I was reading in a book that porposed a theory that the Bible revealed much of the future based upon word formations that derived from the selection of every 9th (or some other number) letter. This book also worked into the theory a factor that involved lines of text. I simply noted that everything was changed by changing the length of the lines of text. Quote Gregory
Clio Posted June 23, 2005 Author Posted June 23, 2005 Part of what fascinated me about this article, was that the original researcher noticed a pattern... or thought he did... prior to the convenience of having a PC sitting on his desktop. Also prior to all the varied translations so prevalent today. Whilst he may have been incorrect, it seems to me that just digging to this depth, manually... indicates a perserverance, dedication, and interest that must have been quite intense. I'm not commenting on his accuracy, infallibility, or anything else, because I don't know... but to undertake something of the magnitude to be able to put those numbers together... I think there was a drive of more than scholarship there. I hope this is someone Jesus deems "safe to save" and I can ask him about it in heaven. It's not a pattern my finite mind would ever notice or wonder about... so why did his? It's a pattern that seems almost incomprehensible without a PC on your desktop... what was he pursuing and what did he find? Did it raise more questions than it answered? Did he ever find what he was looking for? Clio Quote A heart where He alone has first place.
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