M. T. Cross Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 I thought it might be interesting to find out how many people that post here are actually SDA's. Every now and then I have seen posters act surprised when they find out someone is not. So lets have us a poll. Quote
Stan Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 I am a former non-sda Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Johann Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Hail to the speaker, Hail to the knower, Joy to him who has understood, Delight to those who have listened I found it interesting that you are quoting from the Hávamál, a poem found in Snorri's Edda. In the past Viking scholars have used this poetry to detect the Asa religion of the vikings. Today Christian scholars are examining the same documents to discover how much Christianity the vikings had actually adopted before formally accepting the Christian religion as their own. All the knowledge in the world is meaningless unless you have done something with it .. something of worth .. to where your good name is spoken of .. as one who shared freely their gifts of life .. We on the Path tend to "keep" our understanding a little to close to the chest sometimes .. Knowledge is worthless .. unless it is shared Quote
M. T. Cross Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Actually Johann, I read the Havamal about once a week. I am just starting reading the Edda's again. Still have not finished the Saga's - those 13 letter names with only 2 vowels tend to through me LOL. Snorri was a Christian at the time he wrote the Edda's and Saga's and much like Irish and Welsh lore written by monks, it has a bit of a Christianized slant to it. Many Heathens and Asatruers consider Ragnarok to just be Snorri's Nordic version of Revelations. On the flip side of what you said, many Heathens and Asatruers think that Christianity adopted a great deal of Viking lore LOL. In the end I think that none of us will ever know as it all happened a thousand or so years ago. The one thing I think you will find across the board in the pagan community is our gratitude to Christians like Snorri and the Irish and Welsh monks for writing down these stories that were otherwise only passed on in an oral tradition. Whether one see's them from a religious point of view or simply the lore belonging to the history of these people, they are to good to have been totally lost. Quote
Moderators Bravus Posted February 19, 2013 Moderators Posted February 19, 2013 Given that each person can vote twice, interpreting the results is not simple, but they can't vote twice for the same thing. It looks as though, of the 23 responses (so presumably 11 individuals plus 1 person who voted only once), there is one atheist and two 'alternative theists' posting. That makes 3/12 or about a quarter of those surveyed who are not currently SDA, so as has been noted, it's unsurprising if the views presented are not always orthodox. Quote Truth is important
M. T. Cross Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Yeah I actually tossed that around. I thought that for anyone that is NOT and SDA, having the former SDA option would be an interesting option. Quote
Moderators Bravus Posted February 19, 2013 Moderators Posted February 19, 2013 It's interesting, there are 4 former SDAs, but only 3 people have indicated where they've ended up... (and I totally fail at not posting!) Quote Truth is important
Ted Oplinger Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 It's interesting, there are 4 former SDAs, but only 3 people have indicated where they've ended up... (and I totally fail at not posting!) I was agnostic once....but I got better. Came into the SDA church 26 years ago; never left. Blessings, Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
M. T. Cross Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Cool Ted, you came in just when I started thinking about leaving. See, I was just making sure things were balanced. Quote
Ted Oplinger Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Cool Ted, you came in just when I started thinking about leaving. See, I was just making sure things were balanced. Keep around MT! Unless the Lord has other things for you to do, that is! Blessings! Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
M. T. Cross Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 I meant 16 years ago. I am very happy where I am at - actually I think your Lord had a lot to do with where I am and I thank him for that. Quote
BobRyan Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Given that each person can vote twice, interpreting the results is not simple, but they can't vote twice for the same thing. It looks as though, of the 23 responses (so presumably 11 individuals plus 1 person who voted only once), there is one atheist and two 'alternative theists' posting. How did you know I voted only once? I thought I was keeping that a secret. in Christ, Bob Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316.
Ted Oplinger Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I meant 16 years ago. I am very happy where I am at - actually I think your Lord had a lot to do with where I am and I thank him for that. Oh..well, still keep around! If we don't meet here on earth, I'd like to see you on the way to or in the New Jerusalem! Blessings! Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
Members phkrause Posted February 19, 2013 Members Posted February 19, 2013 Your not the only one Bob, I also only voted once. Not sure why I would want to vote twice. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Moderators Kevin H Posted February 19, 2013 Moderators Posted February 19, 2013 I only voted once Quote
Moderators Bravus Posted February 19, 2013 Moderators Posted February 19, 2013 Yeah, people were *allowed* to vote twice, so that if they were no longer SDA they could both say that that was the case and note where they've ended up. Those who are still SDA would be likely to vote only once. That would mean 10 voters in total rather than 12, with the 3 of you voting only once (or maybe even fewer), so that makes 30% non-SDA, or 33% if there are only 9 total votes. Quote Truth is important
Moderators Bravus Posted February 19, 2013 Moderators Posted February 19, 2013 I guess the point is just that 'You shouldn't state an opinion because you're not SDA' or 'You shouldn't be posting here because you're not SDA' or 'That opinion is not an orthodox SDA opinion' or 'why you you want to post here if you're not SDA?' can all helpfully be avoided. The reality is that the large majority of posters here are SDA, but a large majority are former SDA people who still see value in posting here. Stan has indicated that he also sees value in them (us) posting here, so hopefully we can all just get on with the conversation. Quote Truth is important
cricket Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 What about people who voted: I am a SDA, and also voted I am a former SDA? Quote
Moderators Gerr Posted February 19, 2013 Moderators Posted February 19, 2013 I was a former Catholic who became SDA who later became non-SDA, but is now a SDA who was a former non-SDA. Quote
Ted Oplinger Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I was a former Catholic who became SDA who later became non-SDA, but is now a SDA who was a former non-SDA. That is a long, winding road, Gerry. Glad you're aboard! Blessings, Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
Administrators Gail Posted February 19, 2013 Administrators Posted February 19, 2013 I guess the point is just that 'You shouldn't state an opinion because you're not SDA' or 'You shouldn't be posting here because you're not SDA' or 'That opinion is not an orthodox SDA opinion' or 'why you you want to post here if you're not SDA?' can all helpfully be avoided. The reality is that the large majority of posters here are SDA, but a large majority are former SDA people who still see value in posting here. Stan has indicated that he also sees value in them (us) posting here, so hopefully we can all just get on with the conversation. Me, too! Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
JoeMo Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Great poll MT. I voted that I am both an SDA and a non-denominational Christian. I consider myself an SDA because I accept all 28 Fundamentals of the SDA Church; and I am on the conference rolls of the Rocky Mountain Conference. That being said, I consider myself a non-denominational Christian because our entire church was removed from under SDA cover over a year ago; and prohibited from using the "SDA" monniker in our name; so our congregation is truly non-denominational. Some will wonder why our congregation is no longer a denominational church. God started doing things at our church that weren't in the denominational box of what God should and shouldn't do. If there's one thing I have learned about God, it's that He doesn't fit in a box. Every time I try to put Him in one, He climbs right out and shows me that I can't adequately define Him, because any definition will tend to put limits on an unlimited God. I am a Christian before I am an Adventist if that makes sense. What I look for in people is "do they have an intimate relationship with their deity? Is/are your god/gods working in your life? Are you in it for the "love" or for the "rules"? Are you doing good works in order to gain the favor of your deity; or does already having favor with your deity inspire you to do good works? Quote
Members phkrause Posted February 19, 2013 Members Posted February 19, 2013 I guess the point is just that 'You shouldn't state an opinion because you're not SDA' or 'You shouldn't be posting here because you're not SDA' or 'That opinion is not an orthodox SDA opinion' or 'why you you want to post here if you're not SDA?' can all helpfully be avoided. The reality is that the large majority of posters here are SDA, but a large majority are former SDA people who still see value in posting here. Stan has indicated that he also sees value in them (us) posting here, so hopefully we can all just get on with the conversation. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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