Guest Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 Any suggestions or input on how to deal with a pastor who gripes during the sermon? One who finds fault with the denomination? One who seems disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm, passion or activity of his sheeple?? Quote
Guest Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 Provide for him a newspaper clipping of the "help wanted" section of the classified news print where he can start selling vacuum cleaners door to door. Everyone needs to eat. Quote
Moderators Gerr Posted June 27, 2005 Moderators Posted June 27, 2005 Quote: JimBob7 said: Any suggestions or input on how to deal with a pastor who gripes during the sermon? One who finds fault with the denomination? One who seems disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm, passion or activity of his sheeple?? [:"blue"]"But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all thiese things will be added to you." Mt 6:33 ?A revival of true godliness among us is the greatest and most urgent of all our needs. To seek this should be our first work.... A revival need be expected only in answer to prayer." 1 M 121. When this pastor makes these the priority in his sermons, I am certain that he will see the results opposite to what he is seeing in his "sheeple".[/] Gerry Quote
Stan Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> JimBob7 said: Any suggestions or input on how to deal with a pastor who gripes during the sermon? One who finds fault with the denomination? One who seems disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm, passion or activity of his sheeple?? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> any idea what you do with a church member who does the same thing?? Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Guest Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 Quote: any idea what you do with a church member who does the same thing?? Does anyone have any idea why Stan replied to a question ...with another question??? Quote
Guest Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 Quote: Ed White said: Provide for him a newspaper clipping of the "help wanted" section of the classified news print where he can start selling vacuum cleaners door to door. Everyone needs to eat. Ed, now that is the kind of answer I am looking for!!! Quote
jasd Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 >>Any suggestions or input on how to deal with a pastor who gripes during the sermon?<< Might it be that the pastor is being misread? It may be that he is sighing and crying for the ‘sins’ >>One who finds fault with the denomination?<< of the .Org… for its perceived misdeeds, that is, such as suing a brother --at law, failing to honor its social contract with the state of Florida after having applied for and receiving non-profit status for its Hospital, and so on… >>One who seems disappointed with the lack of enthusiasm, passion or activity of his sheeple??<< Everyone is disappointed with sheeple, ‘ceptin’, mebbe, other sheeple. I suppose one cannot expect that a pastor should not harbor the same disappointment with sheeple. Besides, don’t certain sheeple avowedly attribute to themselves Laodiceanism? Mebbe, the pastor has gout and can only kick fundament by a seeming expression of disappointment :-o Now, dealing with said pastor… give him a high-five; a coupla Hallelujahs, a shout, and an Amen; a written commendation of appreciation to the Conference signed by his entire congregation; get him a raise in salary and an increase in perks; invite him and his family home for lunch; --and send him to the nation’s most eminent specialist in the treatment of gout... for starters. Quote
Amelia Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Does anyone have any idea why Stan replied to a question ...with another question??? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> any reason why that is important? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Guest Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 Quote: Amelia said: Quote: Does anyone have any idea why Stan replied to a question ...with another question??? any reason why that is important? =================== I for a committee of one cannot answer that, but some posters here have majored in talking on non-important things all their lives. Maybe today they will turn over a new leaf. ================= Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until the good is better. And the better is best. Quote
Moderators Bravus Posted June 28, 2005 Moderators Posted June 28, 2005 I think it's extremely clear why Stan replied to a question with another question: the two cases are parallel in many ways. If you know how to deal with a gripey parishioner you'll know something about how to deal with a gripey pastor. And in particular, the kinds of things JimBob said the pastor was complaining about are precisely the kinds of things JimBob complains about. So whatever works for dealing with JimBob should work for dealing with the pastor, and vice versa. Apologies to Stan for explaining explicitly (my best, but fallible, interpretation of) what he said so subtly and humorously. Quote Truth is important
Stan Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 hehe Well explained Bravus No opologies needed <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thank you... Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
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