Guest Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 TV and radio host Glenn Beck has warned the Obama administration it has until Monday, April 22, to come clean about the Boston Marathon bombing, or he promises to “expose” what’s being hidden from the American public. “I thought I had heard and seen it all. I thought I didn’t trust my government,” Beck lamented. “Oh, no. No, no. There is no depth that these people will not stoop to. They have until Monday, and then the Blaze will expose it.” What is Beck threatening to expose? Apparently it has something to do with Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, a Saudi national initially questioned by police following the bombing, but since released. “Let me just say this to those at the highest echelons of government,” Beck intoned. “We know who this Saudi national is. And it is in your best interest and the best interest of integrity and trust for the people of United States of America – it’s best coming from you, not coming from a news organization. It’s best coming from you. You have until Monday. We have information on who this man is. … We know he is a very bad, bad, bad man.” Beck claimed to have information leaked to him by “patriots” in several offices and agencies, confirming the government knows more about Alharbi that has been reported and is, contrary to media reports, to be deported for “national security” reasons. “Documents were brought to our attention at The Blaze, and those documents indicate that this guy is scheduled for deportation next Tuesday due to issues related to national security,” Beck said. “The document goes on to say that the individual is linked to the Boston bombing. That’s what the federal document says. “This is the same person that we were initially told was a person of interest,” Beck continued. “This was the Saudi national in the hospital. His apartment was in Revere, Mass. It was raided. The items were removed. And then we were told he was just a possible witness. And then we were finally told by the authorities he had nothing to do with the attack, in fact, he wasn’t a witness to the crime. … Yet the documents say he’s being deported voluntarily on terror charges linked to the Boston bombing.” Beck insisted his information came from “several – I can’t count them on both hands – several sources, who are brave, valiant, patriotic Americans that work in all departments at all levels of this administration, who have contacted The Blaze one way or another and said, ‘Help, help, help.’ There are several dedicated Americans in the law enforcement community [who] decided they could not stand idly by and let the truth be swept under the rug.” Since Alharbi’s name was made public, there has been a flurry of confusing reports about both his background and his immigration status. Alharbi is now widely reported to be merely a person injured in the bombing and questioned routinely by the police, while another Saudi, identified as Noura Al-Ajaji, was similarly reported to have been merely an injured bystander. The Saudi embassy in Washington has said Alharbi is no longer under detention and is not a suspect in the bomb blasts. Forbes, furthermore, has reported there is a Saudi national who was taken into custody by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement last week and is being held for deportation due to his being in the country on an expired visa. However, Homeland Security has said that the individual being held for deportation has nothing whatsoever to do with the Saudi “person of interest” widely reported in the hours following the attack. Yet WND reported that Steve Emerson of the Investigative Project on Terrorism told Fox News host Sean Hannity that Alharbi was the original “person of interest” in connection with the bombing and is going to be deported. Reuters further reported President Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal last week, noting “the meeting was not on Obama’s public schedule.” After that meeting was mentioned, Emerson told Hannity, “That’s very interesting because this is the way things are done with Saudi Arabia. You don’t arrest their citizens. You deport them, because they don’t want them to be embarrassed, and that’s the way we appease them.” WND also reported a Saudi Arabian newspaper claiming First Lady Michelle Obama visited Alharbi while in the hospital. WND, in fact, has been at the forefront of reporting news on the bombing’s connection to Arab nations, including stories on the following: -Reported arrests of jihadis in Pakistan and Afghanistan in connection to the Boston bombing -Possible connections between Alharbi and a Saudi Al-Qaida clan -Warnings even before the bombings that Iran was working with Al-Qaida explosives operatives within the U.S. -Sources inside Iranian intelligence services claiming the Islamic regime had links to the Boston bombings. Beck insists despite reports to the contrary spread across the mainstream media, he has the real scoop on Alharbi. “After a number of those media outlets discredited us or tried to with the ICE disclaimer, we received another call from yet another patriotic citizen in our government, this one from a high-ranking congressional aide who told us that the deportation order that we had just reported on had just been requested and delivered to his boss,” Beck said. “He requested anonymity to protect those who had secretly provided the report, but proceeded to read to us the eight-page document, which confirmed every single detail we reported.” Of the mysterious “Saudi national,” frequently identified as Alharbi, Beck pondered, “Who is he, I wonder? Why would anyone linked to the bombings be deported? If he’s involved, wouldn’t he be prosecuted? If he’s a witness, why wouldn’t you want him to testify? Why would you allow someone who was standing there by the bomb to be deported? Why would he leave? And why hasn’t anybody in the mainstream media taken an interest in finding out? Why are they silent? “The Blaze is interested,” Beck said. “And The Blaze will not sit down. We will not comply. We will not shut up. We will not be intimidated. We work hard into looking who he is, who he’s connected to and why he seems to be offered a ticket to freedom even though he’s been identified as a threat to national security. Don’t believe me? Don’t believe me. Six congressmen have verified.” http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/beck-to-obama-come-clean-on-bombing-or-else/#OeBK0QlOwl1jHyWA.99 Quote
Guest Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 SAUDIS: MICHELLE OBAMA VISITED ‘PERSON OF INTEREST’ A Saudi Arabian newspaper is reporting that United States First Lady Michelle Obama visited in the hospital Saudi citizen Abdul Rahman Ali Issa Al-Salimi Alharbi, the young man who had been labeled a “person of interest” in the Boston Marathon bombing. The newspaper accompanied its report with an image of Obama, although the background was generic and it couldn’t be confirmed immediately that she was at the hospital where Alharbi was being treated at the time. He reportedly suffered injuries in the Boston bombing. The newspaper’s Arabic-language report is being highlighted by Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim Brotherhood member who now is a peace activist. “Okaz, the same prominent Saudi newspaper that published photos of Abdul Rahman Ali Issa Al-Salimi Alharbi in the hospital after the Boston Marathon bombings, is now reporting that the Saudi national was also visited by the first lady of the United States, Michelle Obama, during his hospital stay,” Shoebat reported. The newspaper is more than half a century old and publishes out of Jeddah in Saudi Arabia. It also publishes simultaneously in Riyadh. One of the oldest newspapers in Saudi Arabia, it also is brave, taking on banned issues such as lesbianism in the repressive Islamic kingdom. Its circulation is estimated at about 150,000 and the online version was reported by Forbes Middle East two years ago to be one of the Top 10 online newspapers in the Middle East region. It was CBS in Boston, and other outlets, that reported that President Obama and Michelle visited some of the victims of the marathon terrorism at hospitals in the Boston area yesterday. It was reported the first lady went to Boston Children’s Hospital, as well as Brigham and Women’s Hospital, but the visits were off-limits to the media. Reported Shoebat, “There were multiple reports that Alharbi was hospitalized at Brigham and Women’s so that would seem [to] corroborate the Okaz report. “Okaz stated further that the first lady also visited the other injured Saudi at the hospital, a female doctor named Nura Khalid Saleh al-Ajaji.” Shoebat said there also were tweets from members of the Alharbi family that added “credibility” to the report. Reported Shoebat, “Now, contrarians … with concerns about this visit will likely say that the first lady was simply paying visits to all the victims in the hospital, of which Alharbi was one and had been cleared two days earlier.” But he added, “In light of recent reports that Alharbi was scheduled for deportation on ‘national security grounds’, the first lady’s visit takes on much added significance if those reports are true. We already know that the Alharbi clan consists of multiple al-Qaida members. This would seem to bolster the claims of scheduled deportation, not claims to the contrary made by the likes of DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, who actually never really answered the question; she just got rankled and blew it off.” Wrote Shoebat, “With the track record of this administration relative to things like blaming a video for two weeks after the Benghazi attacks, it should have a higher standard to meet and its credibility should be questioned by the American people. If these reports about Alharbi’s scheduled deportation for such reasons are correct, a visit by the first lady of the United States would indeed be significant in its importance. It would also be a major national security blunder because of the message it would send.” WND reported earlier when an expert on terrorism said Alharbi, the original “person of interest” in the Monday bombing, was going to be deported on national security grounds. Alharbi is a foreign student, and had been living in Revere, Mass. “I just learned from my own sources that he is now going to be deported on national security grounds next Tuesday, which is very unusual,” Steve Emerson of the Investigative Project on Terrorism told Sean Hannity of Fox News Wednesday night. The Reuters news agency reported Barack Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal on Wednesday, noting “the meeting was not on Obama’s public schedule.” After that meeting was mentioned, Emerson told Hannity, “That’s very interesting because this is the way things are done with Saudi Arabia. You don’t arrest their citizens. You deport them, because they don’t want them to be embarrassed and that’s the way we appease them.” Meanwhile, Tuesday morning, a meeting Secretary of State John Kerry held with the Saudi foreign minister was abruptly closed to press coverage. WND had reported Wednesday morning that the Saudi student Alharbi shares the same last name as a major Saudi clan that includes scores of al-Qaida operatives. Some in the clan are senior al-Qaida members while others are reportedly being held by the U.S. in the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba. A large group of federal and state law enforcement agents reportedly raided Alharbi’s apartment in Revere, Mass. CNN reported the search took place by consent, according to a federal law-enforcement source, meaning no search warrant was needed Then the Saudi embassy in Washington said Alharbi was no longer under detention and is not a suspect in the bomb blasts. Saudi diplomat Azzam bin Abdel Karim reportedly visited Alharbi in the hospital. Nail Al-Jubeir, a spokesman for the Saudi mission in Washington, stated that U.S. authorities told the embassy “no Saudi national was a suspect in the Boston Marathon attack and that the Saudi national in question was a witness, not a suspect.” While it is not clear whether the Alharbi questioned as part of the marathon probe is a member of the well-known Saudi clan, his Facebook page, reviewed by WND, lists him as Facebook friends with at least seven other Alharbis, located in both Boston and in Saudi Arabia. One of the Alharbis on his Facebook friends list, Ahmed Alharbi, is listed as a pharmacy technician at the Saudi Ministry of Health. Most others live in Riyadh. The Alharbi clan has long been active in al-Qaida. Khaled bin Ouda bin Mohammed al-Harbi, for example, is a Saudi national who joined Osama bin Laden’s mujahadeen group in the 1980s. He reportedly became an al-Qaida member in the mid-1990s. He turned himself in to Saudi authorities in 2004 as part of an amnesty deal. The BBC reported Khaled Alharbi was married to the daughter of al-Qaida’s number two, Ayman al-Zawahiri. He reportedly appeared with bin Laden in a video praising the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Another top al-Qaida operative is Adel Radi Saqr al-Wahabi al-Harbi, a Saudi national identified by the State Department as “a key member of an al-Qaida network operating in Iran.” The State Department has offered a multimillion-dollar reward for the capture of Abdel Alharbi, saying he is an Iran-based al-Qaida facilitator who serves as the deputy to Muhsin al-Fadhl, who runs al-Qaida’s Iran network. On his website, Shoebat translated a list of the Saudi government’s 85 wanted al-Qaida members. The list includes several members of the Alharbi clan: -Badr Saud Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi -Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awufi Al-Harbi -Khalid Salim Uwaid Al-Lahibi Al-Harbi -Raed Abdullah Salem Al-Thahiri Al-Harbi -Abdullah Abdul Rahman Muhammad Al-Harbi (leader) -Fayez Ghuneim Humeid Al-Hijri Al-Harbi Shoebat also points out that several Alharbi clan members are being held by the U.S. government at Guantanamo Bay, including Salim Salman Awadallah Al-Saidi Al-Harbi, Majid Abdullah Hussein Al-Harbi, Muhammad Abdullah Saqr Al-Alawi Al-Harbi, Ghanem Abdul Rahman Ghanem Al-Harbi and Muhammad Atiq Uwaid Al-Awfi Al-Harbi. Shoebat also reported Al-Harbi’s visa was up for revocation and his deportation was imminent. He also reported that according to a YouTube channel used by Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the two Chechen Muslims blamed for the bombing, Alharbi admired Shaykh Feiz Mohammed, an Australian Mulsim preacher who is noted for his fundamentalist Islamist beliefs. http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/saudi-paper-michelle-o-visited-person-of-interest/#qFzl7oDIoA0C3STG.99 Quote
Ted Oplinger Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 And just why would the First Lady be visiting such a person? Blessings, Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
bonnie Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 I don't know. Like Martin maybe they feel that could have been their son Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Guest Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 So now when you hear in the "media" that they are looking to see who else may be connected, you have to stop and say "wait a minute, what about THIS guy". Looks almost as if they are trying to cover up the connection. Quote
Guest Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Like Martin maybe they feel that could have been their son That could be it! Quote
Members phkrause Posted April 22, 2013 Members Posted April 22, 2013 And why shouldn't she? She has a right to meet anyone she wants. I've met many Mafia guys while living in NY. I had friends that worked for them. One friend, even ask me if I wanted or needed a job when I graduated from HS. So does this make me a criminal? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 And why shouldn't she? She has a right to meet anyone she wants. I've met many Mafia guys while living in NY. I had friends that worked for them. One friend, even ask me if I wanted or needed a job when I graduated from HS. So does this make me a criminal? Yes she does.Wonder if she went to visit those so horribly wounded while she was at it Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted April 22, 2013 Moderators Posted April 22, 2013 Didn't Glen Beck say Alex Jones was a conspiratorial crazy man? This is too much fun. These guys should do a reality TV show together. Jones said on Friday he's about to bring down the whole conspiracy !!! These guys know how to make money. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Members phkrause Posted April 22, 2013 Members Posted April 22, 2013 Yes she does.Wonder if she went to visit those so horribly wounded while she was at it And we know for a fact that she didn't go and see the wounded??? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Guest Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 And why shouldn't she? She has a right to meet anyone she wants. I've met many Mafia guys while living in NY. I had friends that worked for them. One friend, even ask me if I wanted or needed a job when I graduated from HS. So does this make me a criminal? I guess that depends on what the job was. Were you the first lady when this happened? If not, then there was probably nobody watching. And who said she didn't have the right??? Are you saying that we have no right to know, or watch? Because if you are, then you are wrong. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted April 22, 2013 Moderators Posted April 22, 2013 And we know for a fact that she didn't go and see the wounded??? I don't think she would visit them because ........ she hates America. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Guest Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Originally Posted By: pkrause And we know for a fact that she didn't go and see the wounded??? I don't think she would visit them because ........ she hates America. Good point Laz! Quite a rarity here. :) Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted April 22, 2013 Moderators Posted April 22, 2013 Good point Laz! Quite a rarity here. I knew that post would find you where you are. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Guest Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Originally Posted By: RLH Good point Laz! Quite a rarity here. I knew that post would find you where you are. You seem pretty sure of yourself. Are you sure I wasn't just being facetious? Quote
joeb Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 I'd be careful about denigrating Beck when he says he knows something. He's been right so many times it's not funny. He's been castigated time and time again over things he's said, and then when all the facts are known, he's right. He's been prescient on our economy and where it's going. And his research into Soros and gang around Obama has been proven right every time. Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville
Members phkrause Posted April 22, 2013 Members Posted April 22, 2013 Well here you go: First Lady Visits Martinez Boy Injured In Boston Bombings: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04...oston-bombings/ Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Well here you go: First Lady Visits Martinez Boy Injured In Boston Bombings: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04...oston-bombings/ Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Guest Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I'd be careful about denigrating Beck when he says he knows something. He's been right so many times it's not funny. He's been castigated time and time again over things he's said, and then when all the facts are known, he's right. He's been prescient on our economy and where it's going. And his research into Soros and gang around Obama has been proven right every time. Yep.. Quote
joeb Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 You seem pretty sure of yourself. Are you sure I wasn't just being facetious? Oh, come on, RLH. A conservative with enough brains to be facetious, let alone spell it? Couldn't be. Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville
Ted Oplinger Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 And why shouldn't she? She has a right to meet anyone she wants. I've met many Mafia guys while living in NY. I had friends that worked for them. One friend, even ask me if I wanted or needed a job when I graduated from HS. So does this make me a criminal? Well, PK, it is the connection between the two - just as you mentioned of your connection with those "friends of friends" - which I am wondering about. My point was this - what connection is there between the Obamas and this Saudi (who is very much on the terrorist watch lists internationally), that she should visit him so personally? Without the connection, the action lends itself greatly to sympathy with a man known to participate in the fatwahs against the US by several Muslim clerics. Particularly since there are nearly 200 wounded (with associated families and friends) who were the recipients of the kind of terrorism this Saudi trades in? Not the victims, but a terrorist DOES get first dibs on the First Lady's attention? It understandably would leave a sour taste in many American mouths. It only adds fuel to the fire, that's all. Blessings, Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
Moderators lazarus Posted April 23, 2013 Moderators Posted April 23, 2013 Even conservatives don't take Beck that seriously. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Guest Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Even conservatives don't take Beck that seriously. I don't know the percentages, but I think he is widely taken with a grain of salt. And I'm not one of his regular listeners. But that doesn't mean that he can't know anything, or find out anything. Because he certainly can. I may take what he finds out, and interpret it differently, but I would still have him to thank for the information. Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted April 25, 2013 Moderators Posted April 25, 2013 So what was the or else? Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
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