The Mark of the Beast - today

[Arwen]

Hi All

On another thread, o2bwise gave this definition:

Anything that anyone DOES is a consequence of WHO HE IS.

The outward act is secondary to who someone is.

The seal of God is a holy character.

The mark of the beast is an altogether unrighteous character.

When the great polarization comes, that which divides will do so according to character.

Whatever outward acts the evil do, it will be because they are evil. Whatever outward acts the holy do, they do because they are holy.

Sure, holy folks will Sabbath-keep, discerning God's will.

But, that truth is secondary to something much bigger.

The remnant reflect the character of Christ while the lost, the character of Satan.

Blessings,

Tony

With reference to o2bwise’s definition:

1. If you were to die tonight would you have the mark of the beast or the seal of God?

2. If you would have the mark of the beast, what do you need to do?

[BobRyan]

The Seal of God as defined by Rev 7 and Ezek 9 and by the information God gave to Ellen White - is not on a great many people yet.

EW 71 comes to mind.

Quote:

I also saw that many do not realize what they must be in order to live in the sight of the Lord without a high priest in the sanctuary through the time of trouble. Those who receive the seal of the living God and are protected in the time of trouble must reflect the image of Jesus fully. {EW 71.1}

I saw that many were neglecting the preparation so needful and were looking to the time of “refreshing” and the “latter rain” to fit them to stand in the day of the Lord and to live in His sight. Oh, how many I saw in the time of trouble without a shelter! They had neglected the needful preparation; therefore they could not receive the refreshing that all must have to fit them to live in the sight of a holy God. Those who refuse to be hewed by the prophets and fail to purify their souls in obeying the whole truth, and who are willing to believe that their condition is far better than it really is, will come up to the time of the falling of the plagues, and then see that they needed to be hewed and squared for the building. But there will be no time then to do it and no Mediator to plead their cause before the Father. Before this time the awfully solemn declaration has gone forth, “He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” I saw that none could share the “refreshing” unless they obtain the victory over every besetment, over pride, selfishness, love of the world, and over every wrong word and action. We should, therefore, be drawing nearer and nearer to the Lord and be earnestly seeking that preparation necessary to enable us to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord. Let all remember that God is holy and that none but holy beings can ever dwell in His presence. {EW 71.2}

in Christ,

Bob

[Arwen]

Hi Bob

All the above may be true, however if you were to die tonight probation for you would be closed, and you would be sealed forever.

So with reference to o2bwise’s definition:

1. If you were to die tonight would you have the mark of the beast or the seal of God?

2. If you would have the mark of the beast, what do you need to do?

[Arwen]

After reading o2bwise’s post I realized that if I was to die tonight, I would have the mark of the beast over an issue that started a few weeks ago, which I haven’t (totally) forgiven yet.

Although we have spoken many times since then, I need to totally forgive and ask God forgive me and take the bitterness from my heart; and I need to phone my friend to clear the air.

[Ted Oplinger]

The Earth Beast of Revelation 13 has not yet created the image of the Sea Beast, from which the mark of the beast is issued.

My answer will be the seal of God, by His grace.

Blessings,

[Gibs]

The old earth beast is Satan, EGW makes it clear,

"In Revelation we read concerning Satan: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" (Revelation 13:13-17). . . . {3SM 393.1}

She quotes verses 13-17 and you will notice as you read the verses 11-18 the context cannot be separated!

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[Gibs]

And so in regards to the Mark,

Re 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

You can have his mark, Sunday or his name, Satan, or his number, 666 and the decree for it will come from his mouth!

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"I saw that the two-horned beast had a dragon's mouth, and that his power was in his head, and that the decree would go out of his mouth. Then I saw the Mother of Harlots; that the mother was not the daughters, but separate and distinct from them. She has had her day, and it is past, and her daughters, the Protestant sects, were the next to come on the stage and act out the same mind that the mother had when she persecuted the saints. I saw that as the mother has been declining in power, the daughters had been growing, and soon they will exercise the power once exercised by the mother. {SpM 1.4}

Yes ole Satan comes personating the lamb but will speak as a dragon as that is what his character is!

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

[Bird's Eye View]

A different take on who is the "Mother" of religions.

http://www.answers.com/topic/judaism

"Some see Israel as having been instrumental in fulfilling this role to a certain extent in that its two "daughter religions," Christianity and Islam, have spread the idea of the One God to all corners of the globe. Ultimately, as the prophets see the millennium, all the world will come to appreciate Israel and its God, so that "in the last days, the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it" (Isa. 2:2)"

I thought this might be interesting, seeing as how this site is so Pro-Israel.

From Ezekiel 16:15

" But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by"

Mother of Harlots may not be the Catholic church as some assume?

[Gibs]

The Catholic Church or Papacy is the mother of so called today Protestantism as there remains none in them truly protestant. Protestanism has been dead in the area of 50 yrs or more.

The mother of all harlots very well could be what Jesus named the Synagogue of Satan.

Re 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Re 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

That should tell us a lot to help put together the pieces of the puzzle.

1Jo 4:4 ¶ Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.