Woody Posted May 15, 2013 Posted May 15, 2013 In light of the following: "Those who discuss business matters or lay plans on the Sabbath are regarded by God as though engaged in the actual transaction of business. To keep the Sabbath holy, we should not even allow our minds to dwell upon things of a worldly character. And the commandment includes all within our gates. The inmates of the house are to lay aside their worldly business during the sacred hours. All should unite to honor God by willing service upon His holy day." Ellen G White, Patriarchs and Prophets, pg. 307 My question is - Would it not also follow with regards to sports? It seems our Sabbath conversations have 'gone to the dogs'. Our thoughts should be on much higher things during the Sabbath hours. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
Administrators Gail Posted May 15, 2013 Administrators Posted May 15, 2013 My question is - Would it not also follow with regards to sports? I would think so, but then I'm not really interested in sports anyway. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
thx4mercy Posted May 15, 2013 Posted May 15, 2013 I would think that "things of a worldly character" would include sports. What is a nice way of responding to people you are with, if you would like to not talk about what they are talking about? My experience like with a small group at the dinner table, is if I try to change the subject to something more appropriate, pretty soon people are just back to talking about whatever. Quote
Members phkrause Posted May 16, 2013 Members Posted May 16, 2013 Could we see some examples, so we can have an idea what your meaning? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Woody Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 "Those who discuss business matters" "we should not even allow our minds to dwell upon things of a worldly character" PK - I am simply asking if we might insert sports into this also. How you interpret what our prophet is saying ... is up to you. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
CoAspen Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Thanks for the addition to my list! The list is getting llloooonnnnggg! Quote
Woody Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Thanks for the addition to my list! The list is getting llloooonnnnggg! May U B blessed CoA. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
JoeMo Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 What we discuss and don't discuss on Sabbath is very subjective. So is what we do and don't do. I know where to draw the line for myself; but I would never try to set it for someone else. For example, if you were out witnessing to homeless people, people in the mall, or even people in a bar - would you terminate the conversation if they brought up sports? Would you even go into a bar to witness to people? Would you make a horse "work" by riding it? I'm not expecting answers and not trying to start an debate. I'm just saying what we are comfortable doing and not doing on Sabbath is a subjective matter. For the record, I am not "disagreeing" with EGW here. Indeed Sabbath should be set apart. I am saying that part of uniting to honor God on His Holy Day may sometimes involve worldly banter; especially if we are witnessing or otherwise interacting with non-Christians. Quote
joeb Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 There is one answer to this question. What we talk about is what our minds dwell upon. Do we dwell upon Jesus or what we see/hear/follow in the world about us? This is what Jesus was talking about when He said a good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. What we talk about hinges upon our relationship with God. Is He number one in our life, or are other things number one in our life? Our speech on the day that is dedicated to God betrays our priorities to the universe, if not to ourselves. Is God actually our God, or are we talking about our other gods that come between us and God? That's really the question, and only each individual knows the answer to it for themselves. Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville
Woody Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 What we discuss and don't discuss on Sabbath is very subjective. So is what we do and don't do. I know where to draw the line for myself; but I would never try to set it for someone else. For example, if you were out witnessing to homeless people, people in the mall, or even people in a bar - would you terminate the conversation if they brought up sports? Would you even go into a bar to witness to people? Would you make a horse "work" by riding it? I'm not expecting answers and not trying to start an debate. I'm just saying what we are comfortable doing and not doing on Sabbath is a subjective matter. For the record, I am not "disagreeing" with EGW here. Indeed Sabbath should be set apart. I am saying that part of uniting to honor God on His Holy Day may sometimes involve worldly banter; especially if we are witnessing or otherwise interacting with non-Christians. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
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