Guest Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 by Onan Coca As a small government conservative, I don’t have many positive things to say about the IRS. But the agency may have finally actually done some good. Over the last month or so we have watched the unfolding of one of the worst government scandals in the last fifty years, and the IRS has been at the center of all of the malfeasance. The IRS has unequivocally proven what many conservatives have long feared – government bureaucracies cannot be trusted. Anyone observing the unfolding of the scandal would be hard pressed to find encouraging news from the corrupt actions of the agency charged with collecting the money our government demands of 50 percent of wage earners to run its day to day business. Those observers, however, are showing a keen lack of ability to think outside the box. Where most see indignity and gross misuse of the public trust, certain Republicans in Congress see an opportunity to correct the failures of our current tax system. If you listen closely, you can hear the whispers of tax reform escaping the closed doors of Congressional offices up on Capitol Hill. Over one hundred years ago “Progressives,” Democrats, and an early version of the dreaded RINO[1] worked together to pass the 16th Amendment which would allow for the installation of a progressive income tax. An idea that was anathema to our Founding Fathers and which they thought they had protected us from with the several clauses in Article I of the Constitution. In the Federalist Papers, the Father of the Constitution, James Madison, argued that “the spirit of party and faction” would prevail if Congress could tax one group of citizens and confer the benefits on another group. Yet, here we are some two hundred and twenty five years later, and the best chance we’ve got at fixing this progressive nightmare is delivered to us by the very people who regulate the maelstrom! If there is a better definition of ironic, I haven’t heard it. Rahm Emanuel said it best: “Never let a serious crisis go to waste.” Let’s not waste this “serious crisis.” I think the best response to the entire kerfuffle, and perhaps the best indication that an effort to reform our draconian tax code is afoot, comes from Senator Ted Cruz: “Mr. President, if your #1 priority is fixing the problem, let's abolish the IRS and ensure it NEVER happens again!” The reason this tweet is monumental? It’s the first time any politician not named Ron Paul has seriously mentioned abolishing the IRS. Senator Cruz is looking for your feedback on abolishing the IRS, so make sure you go to his twitter page and let your voice be heard. The IRS may have finally done some real good … by providing Conservatives with the ammunition to kill progressive income taxes. I would only add one thing. The better approach to abolish the IRS is to implement a consumption tax. This would truly End the IRS since there would no individual reporting. http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/06/why-the-irs-scandal-is-a-good-thing-for-america/#ixzz2VTeW14pS Quote
joeb Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 And here I thought you were going to post an article from the Huffington Post when I read the title.... Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville
Members phkrause Posted June 7, 2013 Members Posted June 7, 2013 They've been talking about getting rid of the IRS and the Fed Rev for as long as I can remember. Hasn't happen and I don't see it happening. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Members phkrause Posted June 7, 2013 Members Posted June 7, 2013 Give me a break dgrimm. How else will these so-called Sens and Reps get paid without our tax money? Do they have another job? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Guest Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Uh...a consumption tax is still..A TAX! It just doesn't require the hoodlums at the IRS to collect it. A flat tax is a tax also. That would simplify the tax form to one (1) page, and you could downsize the IRS to a small fraction of what it is today. It doesn't mean there would be less money coming in to pay your buddies, the politicians. It would probably mean more money! Quote
Ted Oplinger Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 There is exactly only one way to get rid of the income tax: make payroll deduction illegal. Likewise for FICA, OASI and the rest of those tax deductions. If Americans have to actually sit down and consciously transfer their hard-earned money to the IRS each and every month, people would realize very quickly how much they are really getting sapped for. People today do not see the before/after effect of taxes. The last 100 years of tax collection is very different than all of known history combined, when people knew what they had before - and after - the taxman visited. Likewise the various gasoline taxes: make it illegal to incorporate the tax into the price per gallon. When people have to consciously transfer money to pay taxes on gasoline at each level, they will quickly realize Exxon isn't the one raking in the windfall on money per gallon. When people have a clear view of what they have before and after the taxman takes his cut, then they will wonder why they have been so tolerant for so long. Blessings, Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan
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