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Romans 8:23-27

23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 24For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. 26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but
the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


The Spirit makes intercession for us? What about:

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1 Timothy 2:1-6

1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

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For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


This seems to be a contradiction. Are we called to be intercessors for one another? Is the Holy Spirit called to be an Intercessor for us? Is Jesus our Intercessor? Is mediation the same as intercession?

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There is no contradiction.

True Jesus told us He sent His Spirit. Therefore the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of True Jesus.

I pray these texts often, especially when I am so overwhelmed I don't know how to pray in the most worthy way according to Abba's will. So I ask Him to send the Holy Spirit to see what is in my heart, and to ask for that which is most necessary to forward Abba's will in my life.

Believe me, when a life is on the line, as it was again last night, it is comforting to KNOW that the Holy Spirit is reviewing my heart and life and pleading my case in the most worthy way according to Abba's plans.

After all, it is HIS plans that are forfeit if my life is not in His Will.

Clio

A heart where He alone has first place.

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John 14:8-10

8Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." 9Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has
seen me has seen the Father.
How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.


Is there any need, then, to make a distinction between God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? Need we make a distinction in our prayers, in our worship, in our thanksgivings?

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Clio said:

After all, it is HIS plans that are forfeit if my life is not in His Will. Clio


[:"red"] "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come." [/]

John 16:13 NASB

Keep the faith!

Lift Jesus up!!

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Christine Wall said:

Is there any need, then, to make a distinction between God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? Need we make a distinction in our prayers, in our worship, in our thanksgivings?


[:"red"] "After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name." [/] Matthew 6:9 KJV

[:"red"] "Then Jesus prayed this prayer: "O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding the truth from those who think themselves so wise and clever, and for revealing it to the childlike." [/] Matthew 11:25 NLT

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Lift Jesus up!!

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Christine Wall said:

Is Jesus our Intercessor?


[:"red"] " My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous " [/] 1 John 2:2 NASB

When Jesus made the statement that He and the Father are One, it seems to me it was an admission the characteristics of the Godhead are inseperable One from the Other, a characteristic that the fragmented characteristics of fallen humanity find difficult to understand when He calls us the body of Christ.

Keep the faith!

Lift Jesus up!!

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