Poll: Republicans hate Obamacare but like most of what it does...

[Tom Wetmore]

OK, maybe some of you fine Republicans here can explain the logical disconnect among conservatives that this poll demonstrates -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonk...f-what-it-does/

[Tom Wetmore]

Of course this may explain a lot of it...

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/08/29/2547811/conservative-posts-shoot-obama-obamacare/

[phkrause]

Of course they do. Romney started it up here in Mass. Nothing is perfect, but most think it works just fine. The new governor has improved it some, but it still needs tweeks(sp), but all in all its not any different than what is coming down the road, so up here there wont be many changes.

[phkrause]

That says a lot.

[joeb]

Ahhhh.... Take a poll with the questions designed by someone who politically opposes the pollee and then take those answers given to biased questions as the definitive answer.... Are you kidding me? Then take another article written by a progressive, who again opposes those he is writing about, and expect a level, unbiased picture? Who are you trying to kid?

[bonnie]

Ahhhh.... Take a poll with the questions designed by someone who politically opposes the pollee and then take those answers given to biased questions as the definitive answer.... Are you kidding me? Then take another article written by a progressive, who again opposes those he is writing about, and expect a level, unbiased picture? Who are you trying to kid?

Most democrats don't like Obamacare. Unions have a lot of buyers remorse lately.Part time jobs may be good enough for some but most people I know need to work full time.

Those with "children" still hanging on mom and dad in their twenties aren't to crazy about the hike in premiums.

Democrat politicians have called it a train wreck.Congress and the senate sure don't want to take part in Obamacare.Wonder why.

I was part of a poll awhile back to determine the level of hunger

in Mn.

The questions were so cleverly designed to arrive at the conclusion they wanted.

Two that I remember is "Have you as a mother ever fed your children from your plate"? I don't know of a mother that hasn't.

Have you ever gone to bed hungry because you skipped supper?

I have done that to,not out of necessity.

The answers could only be yes or no

[Tom Wetmore]

Ahhhh.... Take a poll with the questions designed by someone who politically opposes the pollee and then take those answers given to biased questions as the definitive answer.... Are you kidding me? Then take another article written by a progressive, who again opposes those he is writing about, and expect a level, unbiased picture? Who are you trying to kid?

So seriously now, of those questions asked about specific things actually done by the Affordable Care Act, which do you think are bad ideas, and why?

What do you suppose caused so many Republicans did a complete 180 degree turn from promoting the very same ideas of the Affordable Care Act to completely opposing them? Pretty much as soon as Obama got behind it and it became known as "ObamaCare".

Here is a foolproof way for Democrats to defeat any legislative idea of a Republican. Simple have Obama speak favorably about it or endorse it. Not that it is at all necessary since the Republicans in Congress aren't doing anything anyway....

[Tom Wetmore]

Originally Posted By: joeb

Ahhhh.... Take a poll with the questions designed by someone who politically opposes the pollee and then take those answers given to biased questions as the definitive answer.... Are you kidding me? Then take another article written by a progressive, who again opposes those he is writing about, and expect a level, unbiased picture? Who are you trying to kid?

Most democrats don't like Obamacare....

Perhaps you would like to share with us the polling stats to support this generalization that most don't like it. And while you are at it, maybe drill down to the reasons for any Democratic dissatisfaction with it.

[bonnie]

Quote:

=Tom Wetmore

Perhaps you would like to share with us the polling stats to support this generalization that most don't like it. And while you are at it, maybe drill down to the reasons for any Democratic dissatisfaction with it.

Just a few...

et another union boss takes umbrage with ObamaCare « Hot Air

The number of labor unions now calling for the repeal of or changes to ObamaCare is starting to stack up as they progressively realize that in many cases they cannot ...

hotair.com/archives/2013/05/21/yet-another-union...obamacare - Cached

Charleston Voice: The IRS Workers' Union Also Wants Exemption ...

The latest union to resist ObamaCare is even more ironic. And outrageous. Not only will the IRS, ...

chasvoice.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-irs-workers-union... - Cached

Union Letter: Obamacare Will ‘Destroy The Very Health and ...

Union Letter: Obamacare Will ‘Destroy The Very Health and Wellbeing’ of Workers ... please resist the temptation to glorify yourself by saying “I told you so.”

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3042485/posts - Cached

“State of the Union is strong” and other Obama lies ...

Did you miss President Barack Hussein Obama’s 2013 State of the Union address? He finally admits that his “sequester” foolishness is “a really bad idea.”

resisttyranny.net/2013/02/13/state-of-the-union-is... - Cached

The IRS Workers’ Union Also Wants Exemption from ObamaCare ...

The Constitutionally-lawful method to dispose of this despicable Marxist offering is for the individual states to N-U-L-L-I-F-Y Obamacare! Sadly, our state ...

chasvoice.wordpress.com/2013/07/26/the-irs-workers-union-also...

Labor Unions Suffer Buyer’s Remorse on Obamacare ...

Labor Unions Suffer Buyer’s Remorse on Obamacare ... Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.

christianradio247.com/labor-unions-suffer-buyers...obamacare - Cached

[bonnie]

Most people still can't tell you what Obamacare will mean to them when fully implemented.

I know my premium has gone up from 73.00 a month to 151.00 in the last two years.

It is beyond debate that numerous companies are cutting back on hours to avoid it.

Unions are not liking it. Congress and the senate are exempt.Why?

IRS and postal employees demand an exemption from Obamacare.

The taxes that are involved in this haven't hit yet.

Dr's that can are going to a cash only policy.

Some hospitals/clinics are restricting some services.Such as circumcision is now a cash only for all

[Gibs]

For one Tom I don't like what Obama care is doing. It is costing more and it is going to get worse, it is not for us at all.

[Tom Wetmore]

Most people still can't tell you what Obamacare will mean to them when fully implemented...

That pretty much sums it up. Most people do not know. I suspect that if it was always referred to by the name Congress passed it under - Affordable Care Act, there would be less negative reaction to it even in the ignorant state of mind most people are in. But once the Republican strategy of tagging the Act as "Obama" Care, that sealed it for all who just hate Obama. It doesn't matter what it really says.

Truth really matter very little anymore.

[bonnie]

That pretty much sums it up. Most people do not know. I suspect that if it was always referred to by the name Congress passed it under - Affordable Care Act, there would be less negative reaction to it even in the ignorant state of mind most people are in. But once the Republican strategy of tagging the Act as "Obama" Care, that sealed it for all who just hate Obama. It doesn't matter what it really says.

Truth really matter very little anymore.

People know their premiums are going up.People know when the business they work for cut hours to avoid it.

Unions now realize it was a bad bill to back.

IRS,postal workers,congress and senators want nothing to do with it. Regardless of what label is placed on it

[Ted Oplinger]

Ahhhh.... Take a poll with the questions designed by someone who politically opposes the pollee and then take those answers given to biased questions as the definitive answer.... Are you kidding me? Then take another article written by a progressive, who again opposes those he is writing about, and expect a level, unbiased picture? Who are you trying to kid?

And follow it up with the typical "if you're against Obamacare, you must be racist" article.

Shallow thinking demonstrated in both links.

[OzarkWoman]

Truth really matter very little anymore.

You are so very correct. Just look at Obama and the fact that he can't seem to tell the truth. You, yourself, don't really understand and know what Obamacare is doing to this country.

[Tom Wetmore]

Oh, I suspect I probably know and understand more than you think I do. And it is also quite possible that I know and understand more about it than you do.

And likewise, I suspect Obama is far more truthful than you want to think he is. And I am fairly certain that he is more truthful than most of his critics.

But what I am most certain of, is never convincing you of these facts. It would be futile to even try.

[OzarkWoman]

And likewise, I suspect Obama is far more truthful than you want to think he is. And I am fairly certain that he is more truthful than most of his critics.

Yeah, I don't fall for that many lies, so yeah, don't waste your time on me trying to get me to go against what I already know for facts.

BTW, you saying that Obama being truthful...

[OzarkWoman]

This article about sums up about how I feel about the Obamas.

The below summarization of Barack and Michelle Obama’s 5 year reign in the White House is by far the best I’ve ever read as it squarely hits the nail on the head. And it took a black reporter writing it to make it as effective as it is. A white man’s account would be instantly criticized by the liberal media as pure racism. But, how can anyone scream Racist when an exacting description of the Obamas is penned by a well known journalist of color?

BEST SUMMATION OF BARACK AND MICHELLE EVER!

Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los Angeles.

The other evening on my twitter, a person asked me why I didn't like the Obama's? Specifically I was asked: "I have to ask, why do you hate the Obama's? It seems personal, not policy related. You even dissed (disrespect) their Christmas family picture."

The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their ideology, and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation. I've made no secret of my contempt for the Obamas. As I responded to the person who asked me the aforementioned question, I don't like them because they are committed to the fundamental change of my/our country into what can only be regarded as a Communist state.

I don't hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are the worst kind of racialists, they are elitist Leninists with contempt for traditional America. They display disrespect for the sanctity of the office he holds, and for those who are willing to admit same, Michelle Obama's raw contempt for white America is transpicuous. I don't like them because they comport themselves as emperor and empress.

I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President and a love of our country and her citizenry from the leader entrusted with the governance of same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an unparalleled love for the country and her people.

The Reagan's made Americans feel good about themselves and about what we could accomplish. Obama's arrogance by appointing 32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing congress is impeachable. Eric Holder is probably the MOST incompetent and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold the job. Could you envision President Reagan instructing his Justice Department to act like jack-booted thugs?

Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty much expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even using that low standard, the Obama's have taken lies, dishonesty, deceit, mendacity, subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are verbally abusive to the citizenry, and they display an animus for civility.

I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in the case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the Cambridge Police of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to not being able to be proud of America. I view that statement and that mindset as an insult to those who died to provide a country where a Kenyan, his illegal alien relatives, and his alleged progeny, could come and not only live freely, but rise to the highest, most powerful, position in the world.

Michelle Obama is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans of every description paid with their blood to ensure her right to do same. I have a saying, that "the only reason a person hides things, is because they have something to hide." No president in history has spent millions of dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.

And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother's death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father's military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today.

He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement - as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.

I don't like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.

Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.

I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.

As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, "Nero In The White House" - "Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood...

Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement - while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed."

ARTICLE

[bonnie]

[Ted Oplinger]

Claiming all opposition as "racism" cheapens what real racism is. Real racism does exist, but it now goes varnished and unrecognized, because "everything" contrary to Obama gets called "racist" whether it is or not.

The word is now used to end dialogue and intelligent discussion, in the goal of silencing opposition. In truth, such usage promotes the very thing it supposedly expresses outrage over.

should Hillary get elected President, we will see "sexism", "sexist", and "misogynist" used precisely this same way.

It may be "excellent political strategy" for the short-term, but sooner or later, such myopic usage comes back to haunt with a vengeance.

Food for thought...