Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 I don't know why I haven't posted this a long time ago. I must apologize to you all for not telling you about this. I have used this product on my cars and motorcycles and can vouch for their claims. 1. Find and buy a K&N air filter specifically for your car. These filters are reusable and can last to one million miles. I ordered my last one online and I got the re-charging kit with it. Here's why they work. Most air filters that come with your vehicle (as well as replacement filters) are restrictive. These filters let your intake system get more air. The theory is that your charge, (Air and fuel mixture) will be changed. You'll get a more thorough combustion cycle from your engine. The result is a smoother running engine that gets better gas mileage and gives you a sight increase in horsepower. Do some research for your own vehicle and give it a try. They are about 2 1/2 time more expensive than a regular filter but are worth every cent. You must keep them clean and re-oil them as often as you would change a regular filter. 2. Make sure your spark plugs are clean and gapped properly. 3. If you feel that you want even better gas mileage try to find a high output coil(s) to give more electrical spark to your engine. Some (probably most) vehicles loose spark as you accelerate. So when you're in the high RPM range you're actually getting poor gas mileage. By getting a high output coil(s)The spark remains does not drop off. Also you'll get a more powerful spark that will burn more of your air/fuel mixture. That in turn will give you better gas mileage and more horsepower. These may not be available for all cars. You'll also need to get new heavy duty spark plug wires. 4. make sure you have your car maintained, oil change, good fuel filter, tires inflated properly, wheels aligned and balanced etc. Doing these simple things can add up to 25% better gas mileage according to my estimates and experience. If you don't want to go through all that I would definitely get the K&N air filter and check or replace the spark plugs. The Air filter can cost about $45.00 and up depending on your vehicle. There is a fairly new air filter our by FRAM called AIR HOG that I believe does the same thing as the K&N, but I have no experience with that one. I did found a place online that has free shipping for the K&N air filter I just have to find it again. (I have no affiliation with this company it's just a website that I found to be the least expensive and had free shipping) Let me know if you want to know more about this, Sincerely, In Christ, Norman Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Amelia Posted October 10, 2005 Posted October 10, 2005 On my old car I knew where everything was under the hood. Course it was an old car and not very complicated. Now with my new car..........? Had a new fuel filter put on at my last oil change. OUCH Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Dr. Shane Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 In a related story... Oil Prices Slip on Continued Low Demand </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Fuel consumption in the past month fell by nearly 3 percent compared with last year, the U.S. Energy Department said last week. Experts said demand was falling due to high gas prices and an economic slowdown in parts of the United States affected by the hurricanes, such as the Gulf Coast states. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity
Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 11, 2005 Author Posted October 11, 2005 Hi Amelia, Here's an example of what these changes did to my last car. It was a 2001 Ford Focus ZX3. I'd fill up (for $17.00 when I first got it ) and I'd go about 420 miles with that tank. after 2 years or so I was getting about 365-375 miles per tank. then I got the K&N air filter and got a bit better mileage back up to about 420. Then I got the HO coil and better Spark plugs and larger diameter Spark plug wires. Then one day I went as far as I could on a tank of gas and got 481 miles! From 375 to 481 that was a real help. I just got a new Pontiac Vibe in June which is supposed to get better Gas mileage than the Focus. It gets about 440 - 450. I am going to get a K&N air filter soon and see what the difference is. These filters are worth getting, you'll notice your engine running smoother as soon as you put it in. You'll thank me if you get one. Sincerely, In Christ Norman Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 11, 2005 Moderators Posted October 11, 2005 Well, I purchased a car with a 4 cylendar engine, and 8 sparkplugs, two for each cylendar. In addition it has an individual coil for each sparkplut, 8 coils in all. When I stop at a red-light or stop sign, it turns the engine off. The result: more than double the gas milage of the vehicle that I previously drove. NOTE: I also have reduced my Interstate driving from 75 MPH to 60 MPH, and constantly use the cruise control. There are a lot of things that one can do to increase gas mileage, some of which I have not mentioned here. Quote Gregory
Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 11, 2005 Author Posted October 11, 2005 That's great about you car! I have heard about that in certain cars, is it a Honda? I too have slowed my interstate speed and highway speed. I now drive either at the speed limit or below on highways and below on interstates unless I'm running behind. I used to speed most of the time. I work out of my car and go to peoples houses for appointments. I didn't manage my time well and would have to speed to get there on time. Norman Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 11, 2005 Moderators Posted October 11, 2005 Yes, it is a Honda, Civic, Hybrid. Quote Gregory
Stan Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 IN my van I have a 'thingy' that tell me what kind of mileage I am getting On a flat road I get 30 mpg when I go 60 mph ON the same road I get 22 when I go 75... Almost a 1/3 less.... Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Ron Lambert Posted October 11, 2005 Posted October 11, 2005 There have always been semi-magical gimmicks and additives for cars. I remember years ago various chemicals being sold which when added to your gas or oil supposedly would increase your gas mileage significantly. Reputable auto mechanics referred to these additives as "mouse milk." I once bought a gadget that went onto the carburetor at the intake valves. It consisted of a little spinner thingy that supposedly broke up the stream of gas entering the combustion chamger into a mist that would ignite and burn more evenly. I don't know if it worked. I drove with it for a few months, until eventually my carburetor leaked and caught fire, and I had to replace the wiring under the hood. I threw out the stupid spinners. If something simple like an improved air filter would significantly improve mileage, don't you think the car companies would already be using it? Quote
Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 12, 2005 Author Posted October 12, 2005 Hi Ron just read your post and you're right there are a lot of garbage products on the market. You can go to any reputable mechanic and ask them about K&N Air filters. See what they tell you. Also check this out. www.knfilters.com/feedback.htm Quote: If something simple like an improved air filter would significantly improve mileage, don't you think the car companies would already be using it? The answer is no. A few reasons: these are considered performance air filters. Insurance companies can have a problem with that. Manufactures want to sell their cars, not have to deal with a higher insurance cost for their cars because of an air filter. They let after market companies deal with this. Another issue is cost. There are other issues that I sure someone else could tell you about who has more knowledge about why the car companies don't use these. Ask a mechanic and do a little research and you'll be surprised. I could see it now, Ron gets a filter and becomes the companies best promoter. Sincerely, Norman Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 12, 2005 Author Posted October 12, 2005 Here are other reasons I just found why car companies don't use these types of filters. "Factory air intake systems are designed to keep noise levels down, heat intake air during cold weather and separate rain and snow from the intake airstream. They work well but are a compromise for performance. The simplest modification is to add a high flow air filter. K & N air filters have to be the best known brand of performance air filter on the market and increase airflow while still providing effective filtering." Taken from http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/030827.htm Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 12, 2005 Author Posted October 12, 2005 Hi Stan, You're van is telling you the truth. I have heard of studies tha report that if you drive 70MPH instead of 55MPH your car will have 30%-35% worse fuel economy Norman Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Amelia Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 Ok, Ive heard that you get the best gas milage by driving the speed limit. How the heck does the car know what the speed limit is? Some places its 55 others its 70. Phooey Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 12, 2005 Author Posted October 12, 2005 Oh Amelia you silly woman, don't you know? You have to tell it how fast you're going. Norman Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 12, 2005 Moderators Posted October 12, 2005 Ah, but the time is comming, I predict, when there will be embedded chips in the road that will tell your automobile the speed limit, and you will be warned when you exceed it. Quote Gregory
Ron Lambert Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 Amelia, you are probably joking, but let me give a straight answer: physics informs your automobile what kind of gas mileage to get. The faster you go, the greater the resistance and drag caused by the air as you force the car through it at greater and greater speeds, and the more gas must be burned to provide the increased need for power. Of course, if you have a good tail wind, your power requirement is lessened, so you would get a higher gas mileage. It is, of course, unfortunate that the wind does not always blow the way we are going. That reminds me, however, of another way to save gas and get better mileage. Follow close behind big semi tractor-trailer trucks. The drag effect they create is a zone of slightly lower pressure air, which can actually help suck your car forward. If the truck driver discovers you are doing this, however, it will make him angry, because you are increasing his drag and decreasing his fuel mileage. Following close behind is called "drafting." Auto racers sometimes try to take advantage of it. Birds flying in formation take advantage of it. This is why the birds will take turns flying at the lead point, because it takes more work to fly there, and provide easier going for all the other birds drafting behind it in a "V" shape. Quote
Amelia Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Oh Amelia you silly woman <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Amelia Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Amelia, you are probably joking, but let me give a straight answer <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Thanks Ron, I love the straight answers. <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/mittelgr124.gif" alt="" /> Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Moderators Bravus Posted October 12, 2005 Moderators Posted October 12, 2005 *cough*motorcyclenotcarryingatonofunsightlysteel*cough* (heh, I have a *bad* cold!) Quote Truth is important
Amelia Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 May I refer you to the hand washing and nose running thread? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 12, 2005 Author Posted October 12, 2005 Hey Greg they have those already only there a lot bigger, Radar trailers. I believe that this will all come about through GPS systems and Onstar systems which is the same. Think of this; you don't make your car payments, they disable it. They locate crazy folk with explosives heading to a large city. They disable the van. A lot of this can be done now as well as knowing our speeds. Remember the mark of the beast, how are you going to get away. Let's get away now. Just thinking Norman Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Norman Byers, N.D. Posted October 12, 2005 Author Posted October 12, 2005 Bravus, I just sold my motorcycle this summer. I hadn't ridden most of the summer. It was a 2003 kawasaki ZX 600RR and I got lousy gas mileage and it took premium gas at that. But truth be told it had nothing to do with the bike, it had everything to do with the rider who could hardly ride it at normal speeds I used to race them in Canada and cannot ride them sanely, so I had to get rid of it. As the head elder in my church it just didn't fit the calling. Me on bike riding on highway on one wheel and then coming in to preach on Sabbath. Norman Quote The unconditional pardon of sin never has been, and never will be. PP 522
Amelia Posted October 16, 2005 Posted October 16, 2005 Nitrogen: It does a tire good Fuel costs Pure nitrogen in tires leaks less quickly than compressed air, and using it could save money Sunday, October 16, 2005 JAMES MAYER The Oregonian Be honest, how often do you check your tires? If you're like most Americans, you don't think about tire pressure unless it's zero. But with gasoline pushing $3 a gallon, you might want to be more vigilant. Properly inflated tires can boost fuel economy by 3 percent. That's like saving 9 cents a gallon. Yet taking a weekly crawl around your car to test tires filled with old-fashioned compressed air detours many of us. Try nitrogen, instead. You remember, atomic No. 7 on the periodic table in high school chemistry. The science is simple: Nitrogen molecules are bigger than air molecules, so they leak out more slowly and tires stay inflated longer. This inert gas, which makes up 78 percent of the atmosphere, has been used for years to inflate high-performance tires on race cars, military vehicles, giant earth-moving equipment, even the space shuttle. Following development of low-cost technology for filtering nitrogen from the air, Costco, America's Tires and other dealers have begun inflating the tires they sell and service with nitrogen. "Excess heat and friction makes (underinflated) tires work harder, and so the car works harder, and that means more gas," said Jason McCarthy, supervisor for the Tigard Costco Tire Center. The shop has been filling tires with nitrogen for about a year and half, McCarthy said. There's no charge. You can't completely ignore your tires, however. You still need to check the pressure once in a while. Nitrogen leaks out of tires about 30 percent to 40 percent slower than air, according to Ingersol-Rand Co., which makes nitrogen inflation systems. And it doesn't hurt anything to pump regular air into your nitrogen-filled tire. There's no dispute that proper tire pressure improves fuel economy. The U.S. Department of Energy estimates Americans lose more than 2 million gallons of gas every day because of underinflated tires. But not everyone is sold on nitrogen. "We continue to watch the technology," said Jodi Hueske, a spokeswoman for Prineville-based Les Schwab Tire Centers. "We're not quite there yet." And Tom and Ray Magliozzi, hosts of the popular National Public Radio show, "Car Talk," are unimpressed. Ray Magliozzi answered a question earlier this year this way: "Like many sales pitches, the nitrogen idea has a molecule of truth in it. You're right that normal atmospheric air is about 80 percent nitrogen already. The rest is made up of oxygen, argon, water vapor, cat dander, bad breath and coal-plant particulates. And the truth is, atmospheric air is absolutely good enough for filling your tires." Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>
LifeHiscost Posted October 17, 2005 Posted October 17, 2005 Thanks Norman. I appreciated the extra effort you went to, as well as the responses that elicited other valuable tips. Now it is necessary for me to determine how much procrastination to allow in the mixture for the most satisfactory results. BTW I printed out your post. At $3/gallon it's worth a little bit of extra effort. I was also interested in the post where you were coming to the logical conclusions of when we would no longer be able to buy or sell. A thought about that: They (whoever) won't need a chip or a card to find that economic hardship when they can't find work because of open acknowledgement of keeping the Sabbath. [:"red"] "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid." [/] Matthew 5:14 KJV Keep the faith! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
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