Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged

[Dr. Shane]

But we cannot fault him for trying to sell what he believes to be the best course for the nation. He believes, like many others, that staying the course in Iraq is best for the nation. There is nothing wrong with him trying to sell that.

And let's not forget, Saddam fooled the world into believing he had WMDs. He had his own people "escape" and "leak" out information about his WMDs that didn't exist. His own intelligence service thought he had them.

However we now know that he was bribing members of the UN Sercurity Council to get sanctions lifted so he could resume his WMD programs. It would be dishonest to leave that bit of information out of the discussion.

[Neil D]

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But we cannot fault him for trying to sell what he believes to be the best course for the nation.

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Yes, we can. He did not do his job. He was not thurough in making sure of his facts. He sold the nation a load of snakeoil, and he broke a nation while selling that snakeoil.

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He believes, like many others, that staying the course in Iraq is best for the nation. There is nothing wrong with him trying to sell that.

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Shane, he can be the most sincere man this nation has ever produced....but if he is wrong and leads us into war without cause, he is incompetant. At best, George Bush is incompetant, at worst, he is a war criminal.

With this Teleconference being billed as an improptu "conversation", and yet shown to be stage, it shows that George is again attempting to sell snakeoil. He is NOT building trust, but wants us to trust him anyways.

How do you trust an incompetant public official who has broken that trust?....Answer, you don't.

Oh, and this teleconference is NOT about Saddam...It's about building trust between the American people and thier president. Unfortunately, George just doesn't seem to get that..

[Dr. Shane]

Strong words but misapplied. Going to war in Iraq was responsible given the information the world community had. In light of the oil-for-food scandel, the war may well have prevented Saddam from making the WMDs he led the world to believe he already had. Saddam was the one lying and over a dozen nations believed his lies. It is hard to fault the US for being one of them.

Staying the course in Iraq is absolutely in the best interest of the US and other free nations. If the US pulls out now, Al Queida takes over. Who can possibly think that would be good for the free world?

[Bravus]

Al Qaeda was essentially not there before the war. The US got them there. So yeah, I think the US actually does need to at least make some attempt to fix what they broke. Best of a bad situation. Frankly, the reasons for getting the US out now are all for the benefit of the US soldiers, and would be bad for the Iraqis.

[bevin]

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Going to war in Iraq was responsible given the information the world community had.

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Wrong.

Letting the UN Weapons Inspectors do their job was responsible.

Invading claiming that we would be welcomed as liberators and that we would have no trouble using their oil revenue to build a shining light democracy was lunacy.

/Bevin

[Dr. Shane]

We were welcomed as liberators in most of the country. One only need to ask someone that was part of the invation. And we are not using their oil revenue to rebuild the country - although I think we should be.

[Neil D]

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We were welcomed as liberators in most of the country.

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Hmmmmmm....Well, nearly 2000 dead men and 5000 wounded can't be wrong...

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And we are not using their oil revenue to rebuild the country - although I think we should be.

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I wonder why that is, Shane...could it be that their own countrymen are blowing up the refinerys and piplines?????

You are correct, Shane...That CAN?T be it....

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