ClubV12 Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 I wear a bowtie because when I first started going to Church I was riding a motorcycle and a long tie was difficult to deal with at speed. Sold the motorcycle, kept the tie. The counsel to not be a stumbling block to others I take seriously. On the other hand, it's impossible to keep them all happy! Quote
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted October 14, 2013 Members Posted October 14, 2013 I *like* bowties - are they supposed to be evil? Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 14, 2013 Moderators Posted October 14, 2013 Quote: Gregory, not all males get a free ride. I know that. However, women are more often than men to be the focus as to how one should dress. And, men are more likely to be taking about how a woman should dress than women are. Both are generalizations, which may not be true in specific cases. Quote Gregory
ClubV12 Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 No question, the problems I've encountered with my tie/suit pale in comparison to the endless round of questions concerning womens dress! Some guys wear a very discreet bow tie that lies flat, is always black and never extends over the collar. They look alright, I can understand it. I'm still a rebel I guess... It's not really a "bow" tie, now that I think about it. It's more like a plain piece of cloth with some kind fastener. Like a priest might wear, only black. Quote
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted October 15, 2013 Moderators Posted October 15, 2013 Quote: It doesn't really matter, . . .. As long as you don't breach modesty, it's alright. The above is a comment that could bear some thinking about: Modesty is culturally determined. What is modest in one country may be unacceptable in another. I the discomfort that my Father experienced when he was visiting me in another country and while using a public restroom, a woman walked in on him. In that country, the non-Westernized restrooms were coed. In that country there were other expressions of personal and social need that were openly expressed in public that were considered modest. Yet, the American males who often climbed a local mountain in the Summertime, bare chested were considered barbarians who totally lacked culture and were immodest. We are living in an International age. We need to get used to the idea that there are others who have different cultural concepts and we cannot simply impose ours on them. Our church is looking for a new senior pastor. One interviewed this weekend. He if formerly from another country than the U.S., and is now at Andrews University. One woman raised, who presently has a daughter at Andrews asked a question on a point that concerned her. He responded to the effect that Andrews has an International student body and her question essentially involved a cultural issue. Then he went on to comment on some of the other cultural issues that Andrews faces an it attempts to integrate International students into the life of the University. This issue is larger than some recognize. Quote Gregory
M. T. Cross Posted October 15, 2013 Posted October 15, 2013 Your sarcasm is unnecessary and quite childish, Gregory Matthews and M.T. Cross. Does Paul not say that we should have compassion on those of weaker faith when speaking about what is lawful and about food offered to idols? Quote
TruthSeeker123 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Posted October 20, 2013 Thanks for responding, M.T. Cross. You are right; it is looking for sin in places where it is not. That's why I posed the quesion to the forum so as to make sure that I don't bark up the wrong tree. Thank you for your input. Quote
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