bonnie Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 WASHINGTON -- In September, Rep. Trey Radel voted for Republican legislation that would allow states to make food stamp recipients pee in cups to prove they're not on drugs. In October, police busted the Florida Republican on a charge of cocaine possession. “It’s really interesting it came on the heels of Republicans voting on everyone who had access to food stamps get drug tested," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told BuzzFeed Tuesday. "It’s like, what?” The House over the summer approved an amendment by Rep. Richard Hudson (R-N.C.) that would let states drug test people on food stamps. The amendment passed by voice vote, meaning members' individual yeas and nays were not recorded. Radel later voted in favor of a broader food stamps bill that included Hudson's measure. In support of his drug testing legislation, Hudson cited the many state legislatures around the country that had considered similar requirements for other means-tested programs in recent years. "This is a clear and obvious problem in our communities as nearly 30 states have introduced legislation to drug test for welfare programs," Hudson said. "We have a moral obligation to equip the states with the tools they need to discourage the use of illegal drugs." Most of the state legislation was authored by Republicans. Oftentimes, state Democrats responded by suggesting lawmakers should be subject to tests as well. If the government's going to make sure recipients of taxpayer-funded benefits are clean, the argument went, then why not also make sure the recipients of taxpayer salaries are clean, too? In June, Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) made that very suggestion when he questioned why recipients of crop insurance and other government benefits weren't also targeted for drug tests like people on food stamps. "Why don't we drug test all the members of Congress here," McGovern said shortly before the drug-testing measure passed. "Force everybody to go urinate in a cup or see whether or not anybody is on drugs? Maybe that will explain why some of these amendments are coming up or why some of the votes are turning out the way they are." The fate of the food stamp drug testing provision is in the hands of a House-Senate conference committee hashing out differences between food stamp and farm legislation that passed the two chambers. It's got a chance. Last year, Congress passed a law to let states drug-test some unemployment insurance recipients. Radel apologized Tuesday for his cocaine bust and said he'd seek treatment. "I struggle with the disease of alcoholism, and this led to an extremely irresponsible choice," he said. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members phkrause Posted November 21, 2013 Members Posted November 21, 2013 If I'm not mistaken there are a number of companies that require drug testing! I personally agree that there should be drug testing to get on welfare. I know Florida has already done this for at least 1 year now, going on 2? Wouldn't that be something if drug testing was required of Senators and Reps! Probably never happen, but ya never know. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Narcah Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 All welfare recipients need random drug testing. Fail = 1 year suspension. All politicians / law enforcement need random monthly drug testing. Fail = permanent disbarment from any governed employment. Quote -Jason Youtube.com/narcah
Moderators lazarus Posted November 24, 2013 Moderators Posted November 24, 2013 All welfare recipients need random drug testing. Fail = 1 year suspension. All politicians / law enforcement need random monthly drug testing. Fail = permanent disbarment from any governed employment. Let's just do random drug testing for everyone. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted November 24, 2013 Author Posted November 24, 2013 Let's just do random drug testing for everyone. Welfare recipients should be tested as a condition for receiving tax payer funds without working for it. Politicians that pass laws that welfare recipients/everyone is expected to abide by should also be held to the same standard Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted November 26, 2013 Moderators Posted November 26, 2013 Welfare recipients should be tested as a condition for receiving tax payer funds without working for it. Politicians that pass laws that welfare recipients/everyone is expected to abide by should also be held to the same standard People who get any type of government money or assistance should be tested. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 Originally Posted By: bonnie Welfare recipients should be tested as a condition for receiving tax payer funds without working for it. Politicians that pass laws that welfare recipients/everyone is expected to abide by should also be held to the same standard People who get any type of government money or assistance should be tested. People that work for the federal,state,local government should be tested. Those that receive welfare benefits or food stamps should be also. More companies than not require their employees be tested. Should the government demand testing of those not of the above NO. If I work for a paycheck and decide to spend it foolishly that is my business.If you pay for my groceries and I have money to buy drugs it is your business Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted November 26, 2013 Moderators Posted November 26, 2013 If I work for a paycheck and decide to spend it foolishly that is my business.If you pay for my groceries and I have money to buy drugs it is your business Some people who work for a paycheck get welfare at the same time. Companies who receive subsidies from the gov should get their workers tested too. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted November 26, 2013 Author Posted November 26, 2013 Most companies do require drug testing. The Home Improvement center I worked at did and they had every right to. If you cannot support yourself even tho working and are still asking me to provide for your family,Yes,test them Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted November 27, 2013 Moderators Posted November 27, 2013 This is why I said test everyone. Many, many corporations receive subsidies from the government. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 This is why I said test everyone. Many, many corporations receive subsidies from the government. No,you said test everyone because you know that is not feasible. The government so far cannot force that. If I am relying on you to feed my family.I should be drug tested before I am given a EBT card to do that. Most companies,at least here to require their employees to be drug tested Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted November 28, 2013 Moderators Posted November 28, 2013 If you are receiving an SS check you are relying on the government too. The military, government contractors etc. If we can test 45 million we sure can test everyone. Its a matter of logistics. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted November 28, 2013 Author Posted November 28, 2013 If you are receiving an SS check you are relying on the government too. The military, government contractors etc. If we can test 45 million we sure can test everyone. Its a matter of logistics. My husband and I paid in for many years to receive SS.SS is not a freebie handed out at taxpayers expense. Being self employed we paid 100% and paid half of those that worked for us Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted November 28, 2013 Moderators Posted November 28, 2013 My husband and I paid in for many years to receive SS.SS is not a freebie handed out at taxpayers expense. Being self employed we paid 100% and paid half of those that worked for us Many of those who receive food stamps now paid taxes. They too contributed for many years. The people who are working now are paying for your SS. Many people would not be able to survive if they did not receive their government check. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted November 28, 2013 Author Posted November 28, 2013 May of those who receive food stamps now paid taxes. They too contributed for many years. The people who are working now are paying for your SS. Many people would not be able to survive if they did not receive their government check. The government is not giving me a gift.They are returning my money that I gave them interest free. The only reason that people that are working now are paying for my check is because SS held in trust was a big fat lie.They took my money and spent it elsewhere,depending on those that are paying now to cover it for them.I have no control over that. If I need food stamps over and above what I have paid in,then yes,I am one that should be drug tested. However I am not.I am using my money that the government so "graciously" gives back to me on a monthly basis interest free for them. I know there are some people that can't or don't want to distinguish between those that work and provide for their families and the families of others and those that take to provide for theirs. If I am to depend on you to feed my family,then I lose certain rights that you have.I am demanding charity to do with it just as I please Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted November 28, 2013 Author Posted November 28, 2013 My family recently gathered in N.Carolina for a wedding.My DIL went for a walk one afternoon and was approached by a "homeless man".He asked for money for food.She refused to give him cash and told him she would go across the street with him too a cafe and pay for a meal and that is what they did.This man that was expecting a stranger to feed him lost his right to say NO,give me the cash. Had he claimed to have hungry children at home,I believe she would have seen to it that food was delivered but no cash. When you demand the money from others you lose some of the freedoms that go with working for a weekly wage and being free to spend it as you wish Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted November 28, 2013 Moderators Posted November 28, 2013 The government is not giving me a gift.They are returning my money that I gave them interest free. There are people on food stamps who paid their taxes and they are receiving the benefit of that. The same as you. Quote: The only reason that people that are working now are paying for my check is because SS held in trust was a big fat lie.They took my money and spent it elsewhere,depending on those that are paying now to cover it for them.I have no control over that. There are no guarantees in life. If people lose money with private corporations they will definitely lose money with the government. People should not trust the government with their future and believe the government will take care of them. I'm surprise you would trust the government with your future in this way. Quote: If I am to depend on you to feed my family,then I lose certain rights that you have.I am demanding charity to do with it just as I please During the financial crisis many people paid their money in and expected to get it back. They didn't and they lost jobs and homes. They now have to receive government assistance. Those of us who are working are supporting millions who are relying on a government check. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
bonnie Posted November 28, 2013 Author Posted November 28, 2013 There are people on food stamps who paid their taxes and they are receiving the benefit of that. The same as you. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
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