Is this a threat?

[lazarus]

Ron Gladden's, Mission Catylist project is making waves, upseting conference presidents, perplexing members in the SDA community. Is it a threat or will it be a catalyst for change and mission in the SDA church?

http://www.missioncatalyst.org/whatis.html

[Jeannieb43]

Hmmmm....

No, I don't see it as a threat. I believe every modality which can be used to spread the true gospel should be welcomed.

I heard Ron Gladden speak at an Adventist Forum meeting, and he's "thinking outside the box." I'm in favor of it. I understand, however, that conference officials whose salaries depend upon all the Adventists bringing all their offerings into the ORGANIZED CONFERENCE, might feel threatened. But Ron Gladden asked to have this type of ministry become a part of the NAD and was told No by Eld. Schneider. So, I say, Let him do this church planting on his own. They already have planted several churches in several large cities, I understand.

His theology is sound. He requires the new members to follow all the Adventist doctrines except for the jewelry and such. Which means many many more people in this world will be able to be a part of the last remnant church.

[What? You think mainline Adventists are the only ones who will be a part of the last remnant church? Well, I don't. I believe Christ's saying "other sheep have I, not of this fold" means just what it says.]

The goal should be to SPREAD THE MESSAGE -- without the hindrance of the top-heavy organizational system which historically has taken up most of our tithe money.

[Stan]

I believe the NAD operates on less than 1% off all the NAD tithe... the was AL McLures Goal a few years ago.

[LifeHiscost]

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Stan Jensen said:

I believe the NAD operates on less than 1% off all the NAD tithe... the was AL McLures Goal a few years ago.

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Thanks for clarifying that, Stan. It was needed. Not in this quarter but for the sake of stifling unfounded comments on C/A which some have not the ability to verify.

It is worthy of note that the idea that only positive influence comes from the comments in C/A by posters is like calling the Bible a book of fairy tales.

[:"red"] "'I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan." [/] Revelation 2:9 NASB

[:"red"] "'Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie--I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you. " [/] Revelation 3:9 NASB

[:"red"] "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." [/]

Galatians 3:29 KJV

[Jeannieb43]

Lest I be misunderstood, I'm a dyed-in-the-wood Adventist. I believe in our doctrines, and in our lifestyle, and in our organization. Except that the organization is still operating from the viewpoint of the horse-and-buggy era, when interstate travel was slow. Nowadays we really do not need the Union Conferences, IMHO. That just piles on a redundant layer of administration, using up a whole lot of the funds which could otherwise go to pastors in the field.

[Jeannieb43]

"dyed-in-the-WOOD Adventist"?? !!

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[i tried to edit it today but couldn't... That boo-boo must certainly have caused some readers to wish to correct me. But everybody's been too kind....]

[aldona]

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Jeannieb43 said:

"dyed-in-the-WOOD Adventist"?? !!

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Maybe that was a Freudian slip...or one of those word errors that actually makes more sense than the word it was supposed to be... <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/tongue1.gif" alt="" />

aldona

[LifeHiscost]

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Jeannieb43 said:

"dyed-in-the-WOOD Adventist"?? !!

[i tried to edit it today but couldn't... That boo-boo must certainly have caused some readers to wish to correct me. But everybody's been too kind....]

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Maybe that was a Freudian slip...or one of those word errors that actually makes more sense than the word it was supposed to be...

aldona

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I just thought it might have been what they said from the woodlands as opposed to sheep country. BTW, JeannieB, I didn't wish you to think that those Scriptures I posted under yours, was meant as a slur against you or anyone else personally. It just seems important for all of us to remember that not every idea posted comes with love for the brethren.

Keep the faith!

[lazarus]

On reflection Ron Gladden's threat is mainly respect to tithe. The golden rule in the SDA church is "don't mess with the women or the tithe"

Since the average member is not really concerned about winning new people Gladden and his people may be welcomed. Who wants to do that weired church planting stuff anyway?