Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted January 3, 2014 Moderators Posted January 3, 2014 Early morning, Wednesday, January 1: The sale of recreational marijuana, within specific limitations, becomes legal in Colorado. Early afternoon, Tuesday, January 2: A two year-old child arrives at the emergency department of hospital. Mother states that the child is lethargic and acting oddly. Toxicology tests demonstrate the presence of THC, an active ingredient in marijuana, in the urine of the child. mother states that earlier she had discovered the child eating a cookie that the child had found outside the family home. The mother is fully cooperating with the police investigation and a police search of the home has not turned up anything. NOTE: With the legalization of the sale of recreational marijuana in Colorado, food and drink is being sold that contains MJ as an ingredient. Quote Gregory
olger Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Not good. Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
M. T. Cross Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 I got drunk off of a glass of turpentine that was sitting out at my moms art club when I was 3. Should turpentine be illegal or should people just be more aware and responsible? Quote
Johann Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Should alcohol and tobacco be sold anywhere? Quote
Members phkrause Posted January 3, 2014 Members Posted January 3, 2014 Exactly MT. Unfortunately they legalized weed, but what they didn't think about is how stupid people are. this is gonna be a dissater(sp) in the long run. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Administrators debbym Posted January 3, 2014 Administrators Posted January 3, 2014 unfortunately alcohol is legal In 2012, 10,322 people died in drunk driving crashes - one every 51 minutes - See more at: http://www.madd.org/statistics/#sthash.8Xbn1pnP.dpuf Teen alcohol use kills about 4,700 people each year, more than all illegal drugs combined. - See more at: http://www.madd.org/statistics/#sthash.8Xbn1pnP.dpuf How to Celebrate the New Year Safely By MADD | December 30, 2013 Each year, more than 10,000 people are killed in drunk driving crashes and the risk of sharing the road with a drunk driver is even higher on holidays, like New Year’s. In fact, New Year’s Day is the most dangerous day of the year for drunk driving on our nation’s roadways. - See more at: http://www.madd.org/statistics/#sthash.8Xbn1pnP.dpuf Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar.
M. T. Cross Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30#sthash.M2whzfwy.dpbs Quote
Administrators Naomi Posted January 3, 2014 Administrators Posted January 3, 2014 I got drunk off of a glass of turpentine that was sitting out at my moms art club when I was 3. Should turpentine be illegal or should people just be more aware and responsible? I know this is but can't resist. Forgiveness please: LOL And I thought my son was the only kid to go to art club with me and drank the turp! OKAY, Okay don't get all upset with me for laughing about it ... wasn't funny at the time but life goes on, and he still doesn't go to Art Club with me. Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
M. T. Cross Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Originally Posted By: M. T. Cross I got drunk off of a glass of turpentine that was sitting out at my moms art club when I was 3. Should turpentine be illegal or should people just be more aware and responsible? LOL And I thought my son was the only kid to go to art club with me and drank the turp! OKAY, Okay don't get all upset with me for laughing about it ... wasn't funny at the time but life goes on, and he still doesn't go to Art Club with me. Oh laugh away, I'm sure my mom was not laughing at the time, but we sure did in the years to come LOL Wonder if thats the explanation for my extremely high alcohol tolerance........... Quote
Moderators Gerr Posted January 4, 2014 Moderators Posted January 4, 2014 What should be done to a person who is under the influence of THC and causes the death or crippling injury to someone? Quote
Administrators debbym Posted January 4, 2014 Administrators Posted January 4, 2014 Quote: What should be done to a person who is under the influence of THC and causes the death or crippling injury to someone? i think this is a question for the court to determine. every situation is unique. There are so many variables to consider in each situation. History of the relationship, emotional state, mental health issues... whenever anyone has caused harm they evaluate intent, negligence, culpability, and more in measuring out the consequences. the same when alcohol is involved... it is seldom just inebriation that is in play. we cannot take this apart and give an easy answer to every situation by what you described. judgement is not effected exactly the same way with MJ as it is with narcotics and or alcohol, prescriptions medications or other inebriating factors. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar.
M. T. Cross Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 What should be done to a person who is under the influence of THC and causes the death or crippling injury to someone? The same thing that should be done to someone that causes the death or crippling injury to someone while under the influence of a Doctor prescribed pharmaceutical narcotic. Quote
Moderators Gerr Posted January 4, 2014 Moderators Posted January 4, 2014 If someone can get off jail time with "affluenza" excuse, why not marijuanafluenza? Quote
Narcah Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 They beat California to it, amazing. Quote -Jason Youtube.com/narcah
Administrators debbym Posted January 5, 2014 Administrators Posted January 5, 2014 i am in Washington and we got the legalization along with Colorado. we have not opened to shops to sell it in my community. But it is being planned. they are slow in getting that going. i think it is not making much difference to have changed the law. those who use do and those who don't use don't. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar.
bonnie Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Do the variables really matter? If you maim or kill someone under the influence of anything,the damage is done. Unless a person is mentally ill,taking the substance is a conscious choice. The man that killed my sisters was simply celebrating Memorial Day without any intent to harm. Untold harm and heartache was the result Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 The same thing that should be done to someone that causes the death or crippling injury to someone while under the influence of a Doctor prescribed pharmaceutical narcotic. A Dr prescribed narcotic is not prescribed to have a good time. Some Dr's prescribe them to easily but generally a need is perceived. Directions and warnings given.Not all respond the same way to prescription drugs and it would be impossible to predict while trying to help the patient. My brother and I are on the same prescription,different dose. My dose is twice what his is and he outweighs me by more than a 100 lbs. The dose I am on knocked him flat and for me it barely does the job intended. Drugs and alcohol for recreational purposes are a whole different ballgame.Your recreational choices can easily end the life of others without any medical reasons involved in consumption Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Administrators debbym Posted January 5, 2014 Administrators Posted January 5, 2014 marijuana is not a narcotic. marijuana use or alcohol use does not make anyone less responsible for their actions. but there can be extenuating circumstances, each case is individually dealt with in the court. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar.
bonnie Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 marijuana is not a narcotic. marijuana use or alcohol use does not make anyone less responsible for their actions. but there can be extenuating circumstances, each case is individually dealt with in the court. What circumstances? You drink or use drugs do so in a safe environment. If you choose not to pay the cost. You harm or kill someone because of your decision to use recreational drugs and have unexpected reaction,you are responsible and hopefully are given free bed and board,compliments of the state http://www.ehow.com/about_5046132_driving-under-influence-drugs.html The Law Driving under the influence of drugs is generally referred to as DUI ("driving under the influence") or DUID ("driving under the influence of drugs"). In many states, including California, New York and Massachusetts, the penalty for driving under the influence of drugs is the same as driving under the influence of alcohol. Vehicle Code section 23152a states the specific law discussing driving under the influence of drugs. It says, "It is unlawful for any person who is under the influence of any alcoholic beverage or drug, or under the combined influence of any alcoholic beverage and drug, to drive a vehicle." Although a police officer is able to test the BAC, or blood alcohol concentration, of a driver who has been drinking, there is no such measure for a driver under the influence of drugs. Consequently, the suspect is generally forced to take a chemical test, or their license can be suspended for an indefinite amount of time, generally 120 days or more. In addition, if drugs are found when a police officer pulls over a car, the vehicle can be seized and impounded. Facts In a 2007 poll, it was reported that 31.7 percent of all traffic deaths involved the use of alcohol and/or drugs. Over 12,998 people will killed by intoxicated drivers in 2007 alone, and while it is unclear how many of those deaths involved drugs as well as alcohol, it is estimated that a third of the victims had been smoking marijuana or harder substances, including heroin or cocaine, prior to the accident. A 2008 report states that three out of every five people will experience a substance-related accident in their lifetime. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Administrators debbym Posted January 5, 2014 Administrators Posted January 5, 2014 Bonnie, i don't know what circumstances, each case is dealt with individually. i am not familiar with a single case, i do not know any specifics of these kinds of cases. but any case that comes to court is addressed individually this i do know. i imagine things like age, development, mental condition, relationship to victim.... i have have family members in the law profession, but i don't get into specific cases. i don't think just one factor determines the outcome of most cases. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar.
Moderators Bravus Posted January 5, 2014 Moderators Posted January 5, 2014 Story seems extremely dodgy... who drops their expensive pot brownie and doesn't pick it up? Seems more likely the child was either (a) given some by parents or friends and a story concocted or ( ill with something else but had acquired THC from secondhand smoke. Will go for a dig... Quote Truth is important
Moderators Bravus Posted January 5, 2014 Moderators Posted January 5, 2014 Also, the story in the OP speaks of 'Wednesday, January 1' and 'Tuesday, January 2', for a start. Are we sure this story isn't from a satire site like The Onion or the Daily Currant? Quote Truth is important
Moderators Bravus Posted January 5, 2014 Moderators Posted January 5, 2014 Quote: What should be done to a person who is under the influence of THC and causes the death or crippling injury to someone? Do we have an example of a single such incident? I seem to recall evidence that marijuana driving (while still not to be condoned or encouraged) was *far* less dangerous than driving under the influence of alcohol. Before someone starts, no, I don't use weed. At all. I just care about the truth. Quote Truth is important
LifeHiscost Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 It is my understanding from a comment made in a public magazine maybe 7-10 or more years ago that when driving any major highway, one out of five or eight drivers is driving while drunk. Not just drinking while driving but driving drunk. It seems a person ought to be able to choose to kill themselves on the highway but often the damage in an auto accident claims the lives of innocent people while the drunk driver walks away with negligible or no injuries. True? False? God cares! Jesus saves! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
bonnie Posted January 5, 2014 Posted January 5, 2014 Also, the story in the OP speaks of 'Wednesday, January 1' and 'Tuesday, January 2', for a start. Are we sure this story isn't from a satire site like The Onion or the Daily Currant? Weds is the day it became legal. Jan 2 is the day of this incident Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
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