bonnie Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Cook: The Falsest Report Of All The long arm of the law wants to lock Jimmy Gaines in jail. He'd become a felon, stuck behind bars for three years or longer. But Gaines doesn't seem like a criminal. He's more like your kid's favorite teacher, or the neighbor who checks on the widow down the street, or the guy who always opens the Bible study in prayer. Gaines, who looks like a young Jimmy Stewart, doesn't drink or cuss. He had just created an after-school program for inner-city youth. Until recently, the only thing on his record was a speeding ticket ("a 72 in a 55," he said). "I've never even been to the principal's office," he said. Yet 12 days ago, Gaines looked up from his job helping cancer patients to see police swarming all around him. They handcuffed him, searched his truck, and took him to jail, where FBI investigators questioned him and Hamilton County officers decided to throw the book at him. All because of something he said. "It was a joke," Gaines said. On Jan. 23, Gaines walked into the enrollment offices at Chattanooga State Community College. It was the last day to enroll for spring classes, and Gaines thought that his three-year quest to get back into college was finally over. In 2009, Gaines dropped out of Southern Adventist University, several courses shy of a degree. His father had just gotten lymphoma. Gaines, who grew up going to Adventist schools in Nashville, got a job and began saving for the day he could return to school and become the first son his parents had to graduate college. He became a personal trainer at a local YMCA, and works in a program there that helps cancer patients and survivors rehabilitate. He owed $8,000, and Southern wouldn't release his transcript for him to enroll at Chattanooga State until he'd paid his debt. So he saved and saved. "Our crazy Saturday nights are Netflix and candy," said his girlfriend. Finally, Gaines had saved enough to write his check, but the loan company hadn't yet processed it, which meant Southern hadn't released his transcript, which meant the day he walked into Chattanooga State to enroll, he was told he couldn't. So, a frustrated Gaines made a joke. "He said, 'I have done all that I can think to do except put a gun to their head'," director of enrollment services Kisha Caldwell told police. According to her affidavit, Gaines made that gun-to-the-head comment, then moments later, another: I'll try to pick up my transcript with a bomb on me. When he leaves, she calls police, who alert Southern, whose campus then goes on lockdown with SWAT teams everywhere. Yet Gaines remembers it differently. He said that in the joke he told, the imaginary, rhetorical gun was pointed at his head, not anyone else's. And that both jokes -- the gun-to-the-head and the bomb-on-the-back -- came out of his mouth at once, and that he -- not Caldwell -- was the first one to recognize their wrongness and apologize. "I was the self-corrector," he said. So innocent was the moment that Gaines left, thinking Caldwell had found a solution for him to enroll. He called his girlfriend to make plans to celebrate. He stops by Taco Bell, gets to the YMCA, and then wonders why the police are calling his phone, and why all the SUVs are roaring into the parking lot, and why he's suddenly being handcuffed ... "Who's joking with me?" Gaines first thought. Police tell him he's just scared a lot of people at Southern. Then, it hits him. "Search my truck," he told police. "Do whatever you need to do." At the Collegedale Police Department, Gaines said FBI investigators quickly understood this as a misunderstanding. Yet it was Hamilton County police that came back to Gaines -- who sat in jail for 15 hours, holding back tears as the inmates mocked him -- who then charged Gaines with making a false report. "Like pulling a fire alarm at a hospital and causing havoc," Gaines said. It is the most absurd joke of all. It is the real false report: that Hamilton County authorities are about to ruin this guy's life over 50 words made in jest. If he was such a threat, why did no one choose to lock down Chattanooga State? Are our police not able to distinguish a credible threat from a nonsense one? What happens when an offhand comment is made in the grocery store line? Or at the pharmacy? In this post 9/11, never-leave-a-bag-unattended-world, are we all one step away from being charged as felons? Yes, Gaines said something he will forever regret. Yes, police must respond to what they see as a clear and present danger. But Gaines is no terrorist; he's a good man trying to become a great one, and it is both absurd and dictatorial to think that our Hamilton County police are now charging him with a three-year-minimum crime all for something he said. This Thursday, he makes his first appearance before a Hamilton County judge. He's lost 15 pounds since the arrest. Can't sleep at night. He's close to tears. And the one thing he really wants you to know? The one thing he wants to say? "I have no ill feelings toward anyone," he said. "I just want folks to know we're looking for God to make this into something good." That's what Jimmy Gaines said. Contact David Cook at dcook@timesfreepress.com or 423-757-6329. Follow him on Facebook and Twitter at DavidCookTFP. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted February 4, 2014 Moderators Posted February 4, 2014 Bonnie said: Quote: Are our police not able to distinguish a credible threat from a nonsense one? No! In this day and age, No! Further, it is not the function of the police to distinguish between a credible threat and a nonsense one. Both are against the law. It is the function of the District Attorney, the judge and a jury to distinguish between a credible threat and a nonsense one AND to decide on the punishment. NOTE: I am personally aware of more than one person who has made a so-called "nonsense threat" and paid a heavy price for doing so. Quote Gregory
bonnie Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 Bonnie said:Are our police not able to distinguish a credible threat from a nonsense one? No Bonnie didn't say.It was a question that was included in the article by someone else. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted February 5, 2014 Members Posted February 5, 2014 sadly, this is an example of having to take responsibility for the words coming out of one's mouth. "gun" and "bomb" are not exactly joke words these days... Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
Members phkrause Posted February 5, 2014 Members Posted February 5, 2014 That's sad that that had to happen. He's not the first and he wont be the last, to say something like that and be put in jail. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
bonnie Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 That's sad that that had to happen. He's not the first and he wont be the last, to say something like that and be put in jail. How can they charge him with making a false report? Isn't this more under the heading of a terroristic threat? Gaines didn't file a false report. The FBI is not bringing charges. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
fccool Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 It's more of the case of police justifying their actions. I think it's fair to say that in light of all of the recent school and university shootings, people are a bit jumpy when they hear someone make statements like these. I think he could let it slide, if he just left it at "gun to my head"... bomb on my back? It's difficult to distinguish insanity these days. I don't think sane people should and would make jokes like that in such setting, given that some people actually do come back with a gun and open fire. Quote
bonnie Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 It's more of the case of police justifying their actions. I think it's fair to say that in light of all of the recent school and university shootings, people are a bit jumpy when they hear someone make statements like these. I think he could let it slide, if he just left it at "gun to my head"... bomb on my back? It's difficult to distinguish insanity these days. I don't think sane people should and would make jokes like that in such setting, given that some people actually do come back with a gun and open fire. He doesn't sound like he is insane. Sounds more like a sane guy that spoke without thinking believing others would take it as a joke Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted February 5, 2014 Administrators Posted February 5, 2014 Maybe not now after reading a sympathetic article. But now is not when the instant judgment has to be made about what to do about an off hand comment by a disgruntled and frustrated stranger - a comment if serious could result in people getting killed. Doesn't matter that he was a nice guy that made a stupid comment. Not worth the risk to not take it as serious. Many people are dead because someone with the potential and will to kill was not taken seriously enough for someone to act in time to prevent them from doing it. Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
BobRyan Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Bonnie said: Quote: Are our police not able to distinguish a credible threat from a nonsense one? No! In this day and age, No! Further, it is not the function of the police to distinguish between a credible threat and a nonsense one. Both are against the law. Eric Erickson in Atlanta reports that he and a number of other celebrities get "Swatted" by someone who skypes some 911 location with realistic background noises claiming to be some celebrity that is going bezonkers in their home and about to do the postal-911 on all their family and friends if police do not rush over and stop them with all the force they can muster. Apparently the police have gone to some pretty far lengths in following that sort of "lead" roughing up the intended victim of the skyper in some cases. In this case Gaines unwittingly did it to himself. in Christ, Bob Quote John 8:32 - The Truth will make you free“The righteousness of Christ will not cover one cherished sin." COL 316.
bonnie Posted February 5, 2014 Author Posted February 5, 2014 Maybe not now after reading a sympathetic article. But now is not when the instant judgment has to be made about what to do about an off hand comment by a disgruntled and frustrated stranger - a comment if serious could result in people getting killed. Doesn't matter that he was a nice guy that made a stupid comment. Not worth the risk to not take it as serious. Many people are dead because someone with the potential and will to kill was not taken seriously enough for someone to act in time to prevent them from doing it. Very true. He does acknowledge it wasn't to smart but is it necessary to ruin a man's life with prison when it obviously was not a threat? Yes, Gaines said something he will forever regret. Yes, police must respond to what they see as a clear and present danger. But Gaines is no terrorist; he's a good man trying to become a great one, and it is both absurd and dictatorial to think that our Hamilton County police are now charging him with a three-year-minimum crime all for something he said. After it was reported and investigated maybe common sense should prevail Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
LifeHiscost Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Quote: Very true. He does acknowledge it wasn't to smart but is it necessary to ruin a man's life with prison when it obviously was not a threat? Yes, Gaines said something he will forever regret. Yes, police must respond to what they see as a clear and present danger. But Gaines is no terrorist; he's a good man trying to become a great one, and it is both absurd and dictatorial to think that our Hamilton County police are now charging him with a three-year-minimum crime all for something he said. After it was reported and investigated maybe common sense should prevail He is a good example of the maxim, everyone is responsible for their own choices. "But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment."Matthew 12:36 NASB Better to admit one's poor judgment now and exercise true sorrow than wait for the day of judgment when our sorrow at that time is too late for benefit. As to his being a good man, this would answer that for a person wanting to act morally responsible. "As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one..." Romans 3:10 NKJV "So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God."Matthew 19:17 NKJV We can only hope and pray that the underlined will prevail. God cares! Jesus saves! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
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