LifeHiscost Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 And here I thought you were against being snide. But then maybe you were talking about my Rolex. "Love...is ever ready to... believe the best of every person..."1 Cor 13 AMP adjective: snide 1. derogatory or mocking in an indirect way. "snide remarks about my mother" synonyms: disparaging, derogatory, deprecating, denigratory, insulting, contemptuous, dismissive; More mocking, taunting, sneering, scornful, derisive, sarcastic, spiteful, nasty, mean "at his final snide comment, she slapped him across the face" (of a person) devious and underhanded. "a snide divorce lawyer" 2. Brit. counterfeit; inferior. "snide Rolex watches" Jesus/God saves! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted February 12, 2014 Author Members Posted February 12, 2014 don't give it, if you can't take it... You've been rude to me, and to CoAspen, for whatever reason. Bearing false witness against CoAspen was indeed done - by writing that he objected to scripture as having no bearing on the topic. He never wrote that. lhc, you've attempted to pull this thread off track, for whatever agenda you've got, and it is not appreciated. Please stop it. Sorry to be blunt, but you're being obnoxious and contributing nothing to the thread. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
CoAspen Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Quote: "So you see, the Lord knows how to rescue godly people from their trials, even while keeping the wicked under punishment until the day of final judgment."2 Peter 2:9 NLT This snippet of text is exactly what turns people against Christianity, in this case SDA's, when it is used to elevate a person while looking down on an other. This has been pointed out by ex SDA's and others often times in these threads. It has been said,"well, I wouldn't say that to a 'non-believer', just to other believers"! Really? If we as 'christians feel it is okay to talk to other christians that way, then what is really on the heart when talking to non-believers? Such use of the Bible, I believe, is an abuse to others and ourselves. The leaders of Christs day prided themselves on doing such.....what did Christ call them? So, again I would confirm that we can often be perceived as uncaring and superior by our speech. Yes, we are responsible for how others perceive us and we can make our selves better understood whenever possible with out compromise, if we choose. Christ always, as I said, was thoughtful, kind and compassionate towards others, can we do less. Quote
Administrators debbym Posted February 12, 2014 Administrators Posted February 12, 2014 Quote: Not the topic! It was a question about how we see God and do we think that we are 'special'. what is special about a believer is.... when they suffer they do not suffer alone. and when those around them suffer, they do not let them suffer alone either. when i was in my dark night of the soul, i asked God , I am your child how could this suffering happen to me, And God whispered in my soul, "are you telling me that those others who are suffering are not my children. i never asked again. i got it. the rain and sunshine happens to everyone. God is no respecter of persons. when the sun is shining i give God glory, when the rain falls i give God glory. If you think you are special to god and your blessed state proves it, you are much more in danger of losing your relationship to God when suffering comes to you. there are still Christians who believe if you suffer something bad, that you have sinned some great sin or something... and if good things happen you are being rewarded for being good. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar.
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted February 12, 2014 Moderators Posted February 12, 2014 CoAspen said: Quote: Yes, we are responsible for how others perceive us . . . We may have some responsibility for how others perceive us. to that extent, we can take responsibility for that perception. But, perception of the outside world is always moderated by bot internal and external factors intrinsic to the person who has that perception. IOW, we are not totally responsible. E.G, For the past 8 years, I have been working with a person who has some mental health issues which relate to his/her perception of other people with whom he/she has to interact. For these past 8 years, I have been able to keep him/her stable and a contributing person to society. At the present time this is not working and he/she is no longer a stable person contributing to society. The people with whom he/she has to interact are not responsible. Quote Gregory
CoAspen Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Agree. I am speaking to the idea that some feel they have no responsibility for any of their words, as long as it is 'Biblical'. Sometimes, as you have said, we can no longer control the perception of others and that is okay. In my line of health work, customer service is very important and we have a need to be very careful how others, patients, clients, etc, perceive our actions and words. Quote
Woody Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Quote: Is it best not to praise God lest someone be offended, and not let the world know they have promises they can claim when disaster comes and doesn't seem to have any logical explanation? The problem lies not with God but with us. We fail to understand what the promises are really all about. What does God really want for us. What does God really care about? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology.
LifeHiscost Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Quote: The problem lies not with God but with us. We fail to understand what the promises are really all about. What does God really want for us. What does God really care about? I'm getting the picture that only "feel good" biblical texts are acceptable, largely to the highly vocal, which is somewhat surprising to me on a forum that espouses a body of believers that are looking to be ready to meet Someone Who wants each to be like Him when He arrives, the sooner the better. That means sometimes He's going to be telling me I have needs that should affect change when brought to my attention, as the Word describes the need with the conviction of the Holy Spirit. This morning we (wife and I) read John 12 through, which pretty clearly identifies those more interested in throwing stones than encouraging saints and sinners alike. God/Jesus saves! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
CoAspen Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Quote: I'm getting the picture that only "feel good" biblical texts are acceptable, largely to the highly vocal, which is somewhat surprising to me on a forum that espouses a body of believers that are looking to be ready to meet Someone Who wants each to be like Him when He arrives, the sooner the better. This is in response to what, not the topic. It makes an assumption without knowledge. If a person can not tell the difference between words and application, then perhaps....? The topic has been about how we use words and its affects on others. What does our use of words say about our assumptions of God. Quote: ....those more interested in throwing stones than encouraging saints and sinners alike. Again not the topic of thread, but since you brought it up, absolutely, and text splatter, snippets, and no contexts are often used to do everything but 'encourage'. Which does get into alittle bit of what rudywoofs was trying to bring up. What do our words and how do our words affect others. Quote
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