Favorite Thanksgiving Food

[Dr. Shane]

Other than the turkey...

[lazarus]

would it be a sin to eat turkey at thanksgiving even though you are vegetarian?

[Gail]

That's between you and the Lord...

[cricket]

Cauliflower with cheese. My absolute favorite Thanksgiving treat!

[Dr. Shane]

I think there is a sentiment in the Adventist church that it is all or nothing. Either one is 100% vegetarian or not at all.

Myself, I do have problems with eating meat that is not kosher or not Biblically butchered although I know the Adventist church does not teach against such. My wife eats kosher poultry but doesn't care for beef or other red meat. I am pretty much a vegetarian except I will eat fish - so the animal rights groups reject me :cry: Our children are vegetarians, Shania will eat fish sticks but Alex doesn't like them.

I find it hard to believe that eating turkey two or three times a year (Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas) is going to negate the positive effects of a vegetarian lifestyle that is adhered to the rest of the year. We are vegetarians for health reasons afterall, so that should be our concern. Moreover, only eating meat at such occations may add to them being special - like the fatted calf being eaten when the prodical son returns home.

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[Neil D]

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I find it hard to believe that eating turkey two or three times a year (Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas) is going to negate the positive effects of a vegetarian lifestyle that is adhered to the rest of the year.

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Keep telling yourself that when the bird flu comes around...

[Denise]

On the holidays, I make this special Pecan loaf, which is one of my favorites on Thanksgiving. I also like cranberry and cornbread stuffing eaten together. It makes a nice tasty blend. And of course, I prefer the jellied cranberry instead of the whole cranberries in it. One of the members in our church makes the best homemade cranberry sauce, and she just gave my hubby and I a container of it this weekend. She freezes it. It has orange peels, nuts, cranberries and I don't know what else, but it is delicious, and I am looking forward in eating it at Thanksgiving! LOL Oh, we can't forget the sweet potato pie and pumpkin pie. Can you tell I am hungry?

[Dr. Shane]

I have heard that 50% number too and I think the classification is discouraging to many meat-eaters. I was a complete vegetarian for 15 years and now the only meat I will eat is fish. Although I may eat some kosher turkey for Thanksgiving - I really have no desire for it.

My point is that when we teach it is all or nothing, many that still eat meat see no reason to cut back on their meat consumption. A major problem with meat is its lack of fiber and many in Western cultures do not get enough fiber in their diet. Another problem with meat is its fat content. If a person were to only eat meat once a week, that would seriously reduce the health risks that meat has. If they only eat it a few times each year, unless they eat diseased meat like Brother Neil pointed out, it would virtually not even impact their health negatively.

[Kountzer]

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Neil D said:

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I find it hard to believe that eating turkey two or three times a year (Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas) is going to negate the positive effects of a vegetarian lifestyle that is adhered to the rest of the year.

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Keep telling yourself that when the bird flu comes around...

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What's the connection between the bird flu and eating bird, or fowl?

DB

[Neil D]

Let's see...How to explain this...

The comment was on vegetarian food being the protector of our health as opposed to the occassional meat eating of fowl. IOWs, occasionlly eating meat was never going to hurt you.

My wry comment was to point out that eating a fowl with bird flu could have adverse effects. As much as most in responsible position want to point out that illness does NOT jump species, I have observed that very same jump between species. For example, cancer from chickens fed to dogs/cats does cause some cancers in dogs/cats.

The bird flu has already killed 60 people who have had contact with the birds [chicken, ducks]. And while here in N. America, we do not have bird flu yet, it is comming. It is enevitable. I have been told that the HOPE is that if it does jump species, that it will lessen it's strength in symptions...But there is no evidence that it will lesson it's adverse symptoms strength....nor the jump to the human species....

Will the vegitarian diet lesson the stregnth of the adverse reaction symptoms of the flu...? time will tell...