bonnie Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 y Carter at Islamic Conference: Americans Must “Use the Principles Of Allah To Bring Peace And Justice to All” September 1, 2014 By Greg Campbell Former President of the United States and unapologetic friend of violent extremists around the globe Jimmy Carter spoke this past weekend at an Islamic conference and hailed the “principles of Allah” as the key to finally seeing peace in the Middle East. The failed president who was too weak to retrieve our captured U.S. citizens from the hands of Iranian college students has been seen, until recent years, as the worst president with regards to foreign policy. With the numerous failures of President Obama having devastating consequences around the globe, it’s clear that Jimmy Carter has been downgraded to being the second most-cowardly president in history. During his speech at the annual convention for the Islamic Society of North America on Saturday, Carter called for “justice for the Palestinians,” saying, “You can’t bring peace to the Middle East without justice and human rights for the Palestinians. When my prayers are answered and we have peace in that Holy Land then the Israelis and all their neighbors will be blessed to live in peace and prosperity.” Of course, proposals of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been routinely rejected by Hamas and other Palestinian thugs. During a luncheon earlier in the day, Carter hailed his own efforts to bring peace to the world and declared, “We are all Americans in a system that allows basic human rights: peace, justice and the ability to treat each other as equals. I hope all of you will use the principles of Allah to bring peace and justice to all.” Of course, these “principles of Allah” by which ISIS, Hamas and other terrorist organizations continue to commit horrific acts by citing Allah as the driving force. Last week, ISIS marched 250 half-naked Syrian soldiers into the desert and slaughtered each and every one of them for supposed affronts to the principles of Allah. The event was celebrated by extremists on Twitter. Thereligionofpeace.com claims that in the last ten years, 18,000 terror attacks have been carried out by those looking to fulfill the “principles of Allah.” Youngconservatives.com highlights the supposed “principles of Allah” to which Carter refers. These include a command from the messenger of Allah that Muslims must “fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.” While Carter has carved out a place in history as the coddler of despots, it’s curious that he has not approached the pursuit of peace by calling for the Muslim world to adhere to the principles of Christ. It’s equally odd that he has not appealed to the Muslim world to adhere to the principles of Judaism. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
joeb Posted September 4, 2014 Posted September 4, 2014 I can't remember where I heard/read it, but somewhere I ran across the thought that Jimmy Carter has become very pro-Islamist and anti-Israeli because his feelings got hurt during his presidency. I'll do some research and see if I can't find where I ran across this if I have the time. Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville
Members phkrause Posted September 4, 2014 Members Posted September 4, 2014 I believe I posted something that mentioned that. I've always respected him, but that really surprised me. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
hch Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 y Carter at Islamic Conference: Americans Must “Use the Principles Of Allah To Bring Peace And Justice to All” September 1, 2014 By Greg Campbell Former President of the United States and unapologetic friend of violent extremists around the globe Jimmy Carter spoke this past weekend at an Islamic conference and hailed the “principles of Allah” as the key to finally seeing peace in the Middle East. Jimmy Carter is not alone in his erronious belief about the principles of allah. In a post 9/11 speech to Congress (9/20/01) George Bush II stated "The teachings of allah are good." What do they teach? Salvation apart from Christ. That is an abomination that will desolate those who are deceived by it. Quote His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted September 5, 2014 Members Posted September 5, 2014 What do they teach? Salvation apart from Christ. That is an abomination that will desolate those who are deceived by it. so, according to the above statement, no Muslim will ever be saved.. I don't believe that for a moment. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
hch Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 so, according to the above statement, no Muslim will ever be saved.. I don't believe that for a moment. Rudywoofs, I did not say that no Muslim could ever be saved. But you have discovered a problem. Of Christ it is written in-- Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 16:30 "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." And in John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me." On the one hand the Bible clearly teaches that there is no salvation apart from Christ. The world teaches that there is salvation apart from Christ, which is an abomination that Strong states "a foul thing, a detestable thing of idols and things pertaining to idolatry" and desolation is "a making desolate" which according to webster "in a ruinous condition; neglected; destroyed." EGW states:" Abraham's early teachings had not been without effect upon Ishmael, but the influence of his wives resulted in establishing idolatry in his family. Separated from his father, and embittered by the strife and contention of a home destitute of the love and fear of God, Ishmael was driven to choose the wild, marauding life of the desert chief, "his hand" "against every man, and every man's hand against him." Genesis 16:12. In his latter days he repented of his evil ways and returned to his father's God, but the stamp of character given to his posterity remained. The powerful nation descended from him were a turbulent, heathen people, who were ever an annoyance and affliction to the descendants of Isaac." {PP 174.1} So if a Christian converts to Islam, will they be saved? No according to the Bible. Is it possible for God to save Muslims, yes. But is that the general rule? No. Isn't that why the Christian church sends out missionaries? Believing that good people will be saved apart from Christ is the deception promoted by the world that all religions lead to Heaven. They do not. Believe it or not. Quote His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
bonnie Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 so, according to the above statement, no Muslim will ever be saved.. I don't believe that for a moment. I believe there will be those from all religions and walks of life that will be saved.However if people are still practicing their various lifestyles and their many different religious beliefs that are in direct opposition to God's word when Christ returns will they be saved? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
hch Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 I believe there will be those from all religions and walks of life that will be saved.However if people are still practicing their various lifestyles and their many different religious beliefs that are in direct opposition to God's word when Christ returns will they be saved? Bonne, Your position appears to be on sound biblical footing. Quote His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
joeb Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I believe there will be those from all religions and walks of life that will be saved.However if people are still practicing their various lifestyles and their many different religious beliefs that are in direct opposition to God's word when Christ returns will they be saved? I have to agree, bonnie. Everyone will have the opportunity to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, and if they refuse, well, that guarantees their destination. Ellen White says that there will be people in heaven who have never heard the name of Christ, but have followed the light given to them by the Holy Spirit. That includes Muslims. Whether or not we live up to the light given to us is the criteria we will all be judged by, whether we have heard the name of Christ or not. Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville
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