Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted November 14, 2014 Moderators Posted November 14, 2014 Is there any truth to the story that some SDA clergy use the titles of Bishop & Archbishop? In 1952, Albert A. Leiske, a SDA clergyperson living in the United States began a program entitled AMERICAN RELIGIOUS TOWN HALL MEETING. Origonally begun on the radio, it later moved to television. At one time, it was believed to have an audience of some 200 million people. Following his death, his son, Robert, continued the program which continued to broadcast for more than 50 years. This program consisted of a panel of clergy of various faiths. Albert Leiske, who was one of the panel members, assumed the title of Bishop Leiske. While probably not formally approving of that tiltle, ths SDA Chruch seemed to ignore his use of it. In present times, in some areas of the world, SDA pastors may take the title of Bishop and Conference Presidents may take the title of Archbishop. For more on this see the following: http://www.atodayarchive.org/article/2790/opinion/taylor-ervin/adventist-bishops-and-archbishops That URL, which reports on this, will also contain a link to a seccular news report which related the title Archbishop to a Conference President. NOTE: If you read enough of the above URL you will see a comment related to a possible title for the General Conference President. This should be considered in the context of satire. Quote Gregory
Johann Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Remember some time in the past a SDA pastor listed himself in the phone book as Rev. . . . Quote
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted November 17, 2014 Members Posted November 17, 2014 SDA ministers have also sometimes been listed as "Reverend" on the US censuses... and some Adventist ministers will designate themselves as a "Reverend" on marriage licenses - I don't think it's any big deal.. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
pierrepaul Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Interesting; but I would think that the rank of Bishop would correspond with a Conference President, and the rank of Archbishop with that of a Union President, as the conference president oversees several congregations (parishes) and the union president oversees several conferences (dioceses). Quote God never said "Thou shalt not think".
Johann Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Possibly too late for consideration at the GC session in July 2015. Perhaps in 2020? Quote
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted November 17, 2014 Administrators Posted November 17, 2014 How about if we institute the office of Cardinal as well, and then.... lazarus 1 Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.)
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted November 17, 2014 Members Posted November 17, 2014 I suppose we could ask the GC session to announce the election of the President via a steam cloud... water is healthier than smoke... Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
pierrepaul Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 The SdA "college of cardinals" is effectively the nominating committee at the GC. Since (a) there is no permanent nominating committee; ( the president doesn't appoint those who will elect his successor; © the nominating committee's proposals must be ratified by the general assembly, the parallel with the Catholic Church structure breaks down. Quote God never said "Thou shalt not think".
Johann Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Members of the nominationg committee have been told which of their institutions would receive considerable financial support if they would nominate x. If they would nominate y the financial support would go elsewhere. Is that letting Mammon rule rather than the Holy Spirit? teresaq 1 Quote
Moderators lazarus Posted November 23, 2014 Moderators Posted November 23, 2014 Bishop definitely sounds better than Conference President. Cardinal beats Division President hands down. I'll shoot Ted an email. rudywoofs (Pam) 1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
Sojourner Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Does the SDA have the position of Apostle/s amongst the leadership group? Quote
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted December 8, 2014 Author Moderators Posted December 8, 2014 Apostle: No. Quote Gregory
Sojourner Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Is that because the SDA feel that the office of Apostle has ceased with the deaths of those given the title Apostle in the New Testament? Not that I dont neccessaraly disagree with that either, yet concede that is probably material for another thread! Quote
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted December 8, 2014 Members Posted December 8, 2014 I liked very much when in our organization the pastors were rotated among our churches frequently, and they only served in a congregation for a couple of years. The congregations were fed better, and those stuck with a clown or a leech suffered less. Pastors and their families would certainly not agree with that notion. Uprooting families every two or three years is terribly hard on them. Sojourner 1 Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
CoAspen Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 The only title should be given to pastors is Evangelist, if they are filled with the Holy Spirit and on fire, a rare treat these days. I'm so glad that you can read the heart...like God. What should be Your title?? Quote
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