bonnie Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 v Chivalry Is Sexist, Says New Study The Huffington Post Canada | By Joy D'Souza Email Posted: 03/11/2015 4:34 pm EDT Updated: 03/11/2015 4:59 pm EDT Chivalry is dead, at least as far as equal rights are concerned. A new study out of Northeastern University in Boston says there are two types of sexists out there. Acts of so-called chivalry, like paying for dinner, offering up jackets and calling a women 'love' or 'dear' can be signs of "benevolent sexists," according to psychologist Jin Goh, while "hostile sexists" are those who specifically leave housework to wives and girlfriends, or wolf whistle at women walking down the street. People don't typically associate sexism with the warmth and friendliness benevolent sexists display, Goh explained to the Telegraph. While some women consider the behaviour of benevolent sexists to be gentlemanly and courteous, co-author and psychology professor Judith Hall at the Boston-based university told the Daily Mail that "benevolent sexism is like a wolf in sheep's clothing — [it] perpetuates support for gender inequality." The study, which paired 27 men with women between the ages of 18 and 22, encouraged the individuals to take a quiz and get to know each other. Rating their agreement on statements like "“a good woman should be set on a pedestal by her man” and "women are too easily offended" helped differentiate between the two types of sexists. So does that mean we should do away with chivalry altogether? Not necessarily. As Australia's News.com points out, if a man is carrying out these actions because he believes a woman is fragile, and thus requires protection, then he's being sexist. But if he's doing it to be kind? That's just being polite. Peter Glick, author of the original benevolent sexism study, says the intention is not to make men feel like they should stop being courteous, but rather knowing when they are crossing the line. In his 1996 report, Glick said people in general find benevolent sexism more desirable than detrimental, but it still promotes gender inequality. In many cases men don't even realize they are being sexist. In 2011 psychologists Janet Swim and Julia Becker looked at the differences in how men and women recognize and respond to sexism in their daily lives. Swim explained that men continued sexist behaviour after it was recognized, but revealed they were more sympathetic when asked to look at the comments from a woman's perspective. On International Women's Day Emma Watson, UN Goodwill Ambassador for Women, took to Facebook to discuss, among other topics, the act of chivalry and how it should really be consensual. Watson noted she wouldn't be offended if a man held a door open for her, since he's just being courteous, but to her, the real question is whether or not he would mind if she held the door open for him. Watson's wise words are worthy of a deeper conversation. Can we stop calling it chivalry and focus on gender-less courtesy? Let us know what you think in the comments below. Ekbergwed 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
bonnie Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 BONNIE IT Seems like people are turning every moral and standard upside down dgrimm60 It is getting a little bizarre,if it isn't sexist,it's racist,bigotry,or homophobic. Naomi 1 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Moderators lazarus Posted March 18, 2015 Moderators Posted March 18, 2015 BONNIE IT Seems like people are turning every moral and standard upside down dgrimm60 Not in this case Dgrimm. Reading the article rather than the headline give a better sense of what the research really discovered. Interesting information here. Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein
B/W Photodude Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 I would be not surprised if the radfems wouldn't still use the chivalry card and jump in the lifeboat first if their ship was sinking. However, I suspect their reasons for doing so would be different than the ladies of the Titanic. Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
bonnie Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 Not in this case Dgrimm. Reading the article rather than the headline give a better sense of what the research really discovered. Interesting information here. So we need to determine someone's motive for being courteous? the act of chivalry and how it should really be consensual. Watson noted she wouldn't be offended if a man held a door open for her, since he's just being courteous, but to her, the real question is whether or not he would mind if she held the door open for him. As to consensual,anytime someone holds the door for another they have to ask before they do it? Many times I have held the door for men,never occurred to me that I needed to ask the real question and get their consent.If someone is immediately behind me I will step back and hold the door. Never occurred to me that I needed to question the "real" motives of the two men that yesterday that held the door for me. Must be sexist as they didn't get my consent. I am perfectly able to open my own door and should have been concerned whether it was a sexist act or not I suppose Are you assuming that Dgrimm didn't read anything besides the headline? I read several pertaining to this story and it is still a molehill. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
Administrators Naomi Posted March 18, 2015 Administrators Posted March 18, 2015 [Chivalry is dead, at least as far as equal rights are concerned. A new study out of Northeastern University in Boston says there are two types of sexists out there. Acts of so-called chivalry, like paying for dinner, offering up jackets and calling a women 'love' or 'dear' can be signs of "benevolent sexists,"] INHO this falls into the give me a break category. True you can carry anything to the extreme, but holding my door, paying for dinner etc. certainly is not offensive and the courtesy is greatly appreciated by this lady! , Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God
B/W Photodude Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 As to consensual,anytime someone holds the door for another they have to ask before they do it?= Reminds me of a story I heard one time. This guy was going thru a door at an airport and held the door for a woman. She being very miffed that he had performed this act of chivalry proceeded to give him a tongue lashing. He simply responded, "I'm sorry, I thought you were a lady!" Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
bonnie Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 [Chivalry is dead, at least as far as equal rights are concerned. A new study out of Northeastern University in Boston says there are two types of sexists out there. Acts of so-called chivalry, like paying for dinner, offering up jackets and calling a women 'love' or 'dear' can be signs of "benevolent sexists,"] INHO this falls into the give me a break category. True you can carry anything to the extreme, but holding my door, paying for dinner etc. certainly is not offensive and the courtesy is greatly appreciated by this lady! , But think how rewarding it is to discover sexism under every rock and behind every tree. Must be some really bored people in this world Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman
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