"Easter" or... Passover

[FLO]

www.EasterTruth.info has a good study on this topic. 

[aka]

Thank you Flo for the message of your website. In essence it is saying we believers in Yahsua are to worship God in spirit and in truth. We must consciously reject all pagan implications of Easter as you gave in detailed evidence proved by the quotes given.

 

What helped me was to learn that the Church wanted the dispute over the Jewish calendar choice of Nisan 14th for Passover celebration to stop. Many of the christians were following the custom and it irked the upper hierachy to have anything to do with what was in their bigoted eyes as Jewish. So they kept the Day of the Lord's resurrection on the first Sunday after the full moon that occurs after the vernal equinox closest to Nisan 14 according to the decree of the council of Nicea. 

 

Our Christian Passover resurrection celebration is a commenoration of past deliverance from bondage to the Devil and having sinned on many occasions. Jesus Christ himself alluded to future ramifications of the act by saying he would not eat Passover again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God. Luke 22

[stinsonmarri]

The topic is should we observe "Easter" or Jewish Passover. It is already known that Easter is a pagan belief and we as Adventist should not participate in it at all. However, it is surprising to me that non of the comments stayed on point they all seem to wander in different direction. My first comment that the passover supper was not Jewish.

 

And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to YAHWEH, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. 12:49  One law shall be to him that is home born, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. Ex 12:48, 49   

 

The problem is that we need to read why this supper was given to the Children of Israel who had forgotten the truth. Melchizedek was King/Priest during the time of Abraham and the Canaanites knew the same requirements of the Holy Convocation of Unleavened Bread and so did Adam!

 

And in the fourth generation, they will come back here; for at present the sin of the Amorite is not full. that day the Lord made an agreement with Abram, and said, To your seed have I given this land from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river Euphrates: The Kenite, the Kenizzite, and the Kadmonite, And the Hittite, and the Perizzite, and the Rephaim, And the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Girgashite, and the Jebusites. Gen 15:16, 18-21  

 

The supper was not a day, it was to be taken just before midnight. The lamb was to be killed at evening which was the beginning of the 15th day!

 

Say to all the children of Israel when they are come together, In the tenth day of this month every man is to take a lamb, by the number of their fathers' families, a lamb for every family: Keep it till the fourteenth day of the same month, when everyone who is of the children of Israel is to put it to death between sundown and dark. Ex 12:3, 6

 

And on the first day of the Holy Convocation of Unleavened, the disciples came to YAHSHUA saying to HIM, Where do you desire we should prepare for YOU to eat the passover? Mat 26:17

 

YAHSHUA follow the Mosaic law that HE HIMSELF gave to Moses for us to know the truth. We have become so Hellenize with paganism that, we do not realize that we follow all of Nimrod's beliefs  that were brought back together in Daniel Chapter 7. YAHWEH gave him a dream so different from Nebuchadnezzar who was fed milk and Daniel was given meat! The beast or empires that Daniel saw were there religion or beliefs. Each one of these empires had a portion of Nimrod's false beliefs against the truth of ELOHIM. The fourth beast was a combination all the religions wrap up together and united by the Catholic Church. John and Daniel saw the same beast but during different times. If you notice Daniel and John saw the beast stamp his feet, which is the bear or Persia, iron teeth show Roman religion was the mouth of this beast which lead from Pagan Rome to Papal Rome! Both the body and nails of the beast represented Greece and it has been the world downfall. 

 

Greece is the one who has cause us to accept the trinity to believe that their deities have personalities and have even discarded the HOLY NAME OF ELOHIM to take on the name of their god which if you read the etymology of this name it goes back to demon which the word Damon also comes from! The Greece also worship and adore the Egyptians where Easter comes from the goddess Isis .

 

 In the typical form of her myth, Isis was the first daughter of Geb, god of the Earth, and Nut, goddess of the Sky, and she was born on the fourth intercalary day. She married her brother, Osiris, and she conceived Horus with him. Isis was instrumental in the resurrection of Osiris when he was murdered by Set. Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Easter is originally the celebration of Ishtar, the Assyrian and Babylonian goddess of fertility and sex.

Ishtar was the goddess of love, war and sex. These days, thanks to Herodotus, she is especially associated with sacred prostitution* (also known as temple prostitution), which, in the religions of the Ancient Near East, allegedly took on the form of every woman having to, at some point in her life, go to the temple of Ishtar and have sex with the first stranger who offered her money. http://bellejar.ca/

 

Then look at Easter. What means the term Easter itself? It is not a Christian name. It bears its Chaldean origin on its very forehead. Easter is nothing else than Astarte, one of the titles of Beltis, the queen of heaven, whose name, as pronounced by the people Nineveh, was evidently identical with that now in common use in this country. That name, as found by Layard on the Assyrian monuments, is Ishtar. The worship of Bel and Astarte was very early introduced into Britain, along with the Druids, "the priests of the groves." Some have imagined that the Druidical worship was first introduced by the Phoenicians, who, centuries before the Christian era, traded to the tin-mines of Cornwall. Alexander Hislop; , The Two Babylons Chapter III Section II Easter

 

As you can see that Nimrod change YAHWEH'S Holy appointed time founded in Gen 1:14 which belonged to HIM! Lev 23:1, 2 The Sabbath was HIS  weekly time and the Holy Convocation was HIS annual time and it was a significant part of HIS Calendar. YAHWEH'S Calendar was lunar/solar, Nimrod changed it to a solar calendar and the Egyptians ratified it! However the papacy claim for all of the world to adopts even though other countries have different calendars just like our language it too is international. It was pagan Rome who started the revitalization of the pagan calendar but Pope Gregory fix it and the calendar we use today is a Catholic calendar. We today are Greek in worship and political life and we don't even realize it. Theology to medicine comes from the Greeks, from Persia, Egypt back to Babylon who Nimrod started. EGW says it best:

 

The men of Babel had determined to establish a government that should be independent of ELOHIM. There were some among them, however, who feared YAHWEH, but who had been deceived by the pretensions of the ungodly and drawn into their schemes. For the sake of these faithful ones YAHWEH delayed HIS Judgments and gave the people time to reveal their true character. As this was developed, the sons of ELOHIM labored to turn them from their purpose; but the people were fully united in their Heaven-daring undertaking. Had they gone on unchecked, they would have demoralized the world in its infancy. Their confederacy was founded in rebellion; a kingdom established for self-exaltation, but in which ELOHIM was to have no rule or honor. Had this confederacy been permitted, a mighty power would have borne sway to banish Righteousness--and with it peace, happiness, and security--from the earth. For the DIVINE Statutes, which are "Holy and Just and Good" (Romans 7:12), men were endeavoring to substitute laws to suit the purpose of their own selfish and cruel hearts. PP p.123

 

I urge you all to read your Bibles understand ancient history and realize that our society is pagan and we must begin to ask questions to what we believe. It is from ELOHIM or a counterfeit of Satan!

 

Blessings! 

[fccool]

 My first comment that the passover supper was not Jewish...

 

 

How would you define "Jewish"?

[Gregory Matthews]

Your local congregation can have Communion whenever they wish.

 

The 4X per year came from the early days of our denomination and from the fact that on the frontier Protestant congregations were in many cases only visited 4 times per year by clergy.   

[phkrause]

My first comment that the passover supper was not Jewish.

I agree, its a Hebrew/Israelite supper!! Which by the time of Jesus had become a Jewish supper!!

[stinsonmarri]

How would you define "Jewish"?

 

The Jews admit that they are not the descendants of the Ancient Israelites in their writings.

 

Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew. (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).

 

Khazar, an ancient Turkic speaking people who ruled a large and powerful state in the steppes North of the Caucasus Mountains from the 7th century to their demise in the mid 11th century A.D... In the 8th Century, its political and religious head... as well as the greater part of the Khazar nobility, abandoned paganism and converted to Judaism... (The Khazars are believed to be the ancestors of most Russian and Eastern European Jews)." Encyclopedia Americana (1985)

 

Ashkenazim, the Ashkenazim are the Jews whose ancestors lived in German lands...it was among Ashkenazi Jews that the idea of political Zionism emerged, leading ultimately to the establishment of the state of Israel... In the late 1960s, Ashkenazi Jews numbered some 11 million, about 84 percent of the world Jewish population. Encyclopedia Americana (1985)

 

Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania. The Jewish Encyclopedia

 

The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and Germans. This may be due to the fact that the home of the ancient ancestors of the Germans is Media, which is the Biblical Ashkenaz. The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia

 

Khazars {kah'z-ars} The Khazars, a Turkic people, created a commercial and political empire that dominated substantial parts of South Russia during much of the 7th through 10th centuries. During the 8th century, the Khazar aristocracy and the kagan (king) were converted to Judaism. The Khazars established their capital at Itil (or Atil), in the Volga delta, and for four centuries thereafter this Jewish empire held the balance of power between the Christian Byzantine Empire and the Muslim Caliphate. The fortified Khazar city of Sarkil on the lower Don River was built with Byzantine help and served as a crossroads to central Asia. The Khazars controlled many of the trade routes to the Orient; some of the Radhanites (Jewish merchants from Gaul), for example, were accustomed to crossing the Khazar empire while traveling to and from China and India. During the late 10th and early 11th centuries, an alliance of Byzantines and Russians broke the power of the Khazars in the Crimea. In 965, Svyatoslav I, duke of Kiev, decisively defeated the Khazar army. Further to the east, new waves of Turkic invaders overran the remains of the Khazar state. New Grolier Encyclopedia

 

Research also revealed that the 'Jews' in Eastern Europe were never ‘Semites,’ are not ‘Semites’ now, nor can they ever be regarded as ‘Semites’ at any future time by any stretch of the imagination. Exhaustive research also irrevocably rejects as a fantastic fabrication the generally accepted belief by Christians that the 'Jews' in Eastern Europe are the legendary 'Chosen People' so very vocally publicized by the Christian clergy from their pulpits. Facts are Facts by Benjamin H. Freedman

 

Now DNA proves it as well!

 

Adventist should know this because of the 490 years in the 2300 days prophecy and the curse in Deut that all should read. There is no trace of the Hebrews once the Roman's scatter them and the Ottoman Empire took over the region as I said and the proof in the Bible. It clearly says that Japheth will dwell in the tents of Shem and even Malcolm X saw this truth when he went to Mecca!

 

Blessings!

[B/W Photodude]

Ashkenazim, the Ashkenazim are the Jews whose ancestors lived in German lands...

 

Your whole argument seems to have one fatal flaw in that you seem to think all Jews of today are Ashkenazim. Not really true.

 

You forgot the Sephardim, the Yemenite Jews, the Falashas, the Jews that use to live in Iraq, and probably also the Jews that always lived in Palestine.

[stinsonmarri]

I agree, its a Hebrew/Israelite supper!! Which by the time of Jesus had become a Jewish supper!!

If you would take the time and read about the passover supper, not only did Israel partake of the supper but so did some of the Egyptians and other people who were there in Egypt.

 

 And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle. Ex 12:38 

 

The passover was to be both commemorative and typical, not only pointing back to the deliverance from Egypt, but forward to the greater deliverance which YAHSHUA was to accomplish in freeing His people from the bondage of sin.

 

And they went out, "about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children. And a mixed multitude went up also with them." In this multitude were not only those who were actuated by faith in ELOHIM of Israel, but also a far greater number who desired only to escape from the plagues, or who followed in the wake of the moving multitudes merely from excitement and curiosity. This class were ever a hindrance and a snare to Israel. PP p. 277, 281

 

And it shall come to pass, when ye be come to the land which YAHWEH will give you, according as HE hath promised, that ye shall keep this service. (A service is not a day.)  A foreigner and a hired servant shall not eat thereof. And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to YAHWEH, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One Law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you. Ex 12:25, 45, 48, 49

 

Blessings !

[stinsonmarri]

Your whole argument seems to have one fatal flaw in that you seem to think all Jews of today are Ashkenazim. Not really true.

 

You forgot the Sephardim, the Yemenite Jews, the Falashas, the Jews that use to live in Iraq, and probably also the Jews that always lived in Palestine.

Let me clearly explain something to you, first I was talking about the Indo Europeans who called themselves Ashkenazi and they now "dwell in the tents of Shem. So first you need to identified the children of Shem.

 

Elam is the home of the Semites, Mesopotamia and eastern Arabia. Elam was the region bordering on the lower Tigris in the west and on Media in the northeast. The Elam’s ancient capital, Susa, the Biblical Shushan (Dan. 8:2), became, in later times, one of the capitals of the Persian Empire who were Indo European or Japheth children.

 

Asshur became the Assyria who occupied the central part of the Tigris valley, extending in the north to the mountains of Armenia and in the east to the Median plateau. They had a strong empire until they were destroyed by the Medes and the Neo-Babylonians. The original home of the Chaldeans, where Abraham came from was located on the upper part of the Euphrates.

 

Now these are the generations of Terah: Terah begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran; and Haran begat Lot. And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees. Gen 11:27, 28 

 

The Bible specifically stated Ur of the Chaldees and the Ur that Nimrod a Kushite (Black man), built. Just like, there are many cities all over USA having the same name. I live in Greenville Georgia, not South Carolina that is popular known. Returning, the Medes took out the Assyrians who again were Semitic. The Medes are the first wave of migrating Iranic Aryan tribes into Ancient Iran from the late 2nd millennium BCE through the beginning of the 1st millennium BCE. Here again is Japheth children taking over the Semitic people and then the Persians, the Turks. Many of the Hebrews who were left in Palestine were force to be Muslims during the Ottoman Empire.

 

Now we come to the Sephardic:

 

Hispania is the Latin name for the Iberian Peninsula. The name Iberian comes from the Iberus (Ebro) river. It was also known as Celtica. Celts migrated across the Pyrenees into Hispania in the ninth and seventh centuries B.C. Their mingling with the earlier inhabitants, the Iberians, produced the Celtiberians. Early inhabitants also included Greeks and Phoenicians.

 

Gades or Cadiz may be the oldest city of Western Europe if it was really founded by merchants from Tyre in 1100 B.C. It was an important colony for the Phoenicians, predating Carthage. Hispania: Rome's Relations With Ancient Spain and Portugal

 

In the narrower ethnic definition, a Sephardi Jew is a Jew descended from the Jews who lived in the Iberian Peninsula in the late 15th century, immediately prior to the issuance of the Alhambra Decree of 1492 by order of the Catholic Monarchs in Spain, and the decree of 1496 in Portugal by order of King Manuel I. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

The Sephardic eventually were force to become Catholic:

 

The Sephardi Jews, also known as Sephardic Jews or simply Sephardim (Hebrew: סְפָרַדִּי, Modern Hebrew: Sfaraddi, Tiberian: Səp̄āraddî, lit. "The Jews of Spain"). From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Finally the Yemenite (originally from Kush), the Falasha, meaning “strangers” (also descendant of Kush):

 

The Hebrew people were more intimately associated with the Hamitic races than with the descendants of Japheth. Cush, or Kush, is ancient Ethiopia, which was in classical times called Nubia. It was not Abyssinia, but included a part of Egypt and a part of the Sudan, extending from the first cataract of the Nile, at Aswan, as far south as Khartoum.

 

The sons of Cush; Seba the Ethiopians had by then migrated to Africa from southern Arabia. However, Seba was a tribe, originally at least, in the southern part of Arabia. In Ps. 72:10 the most remote nations of Solomon’s time are pictured paying Solomon homage—Seba far to the south, Tarshish to the west, and Sheba to the east. In Isa. 43:3 Seba is referred to as being in close proximity to Cush. Isaiah 45:14 emphasizes the great stature of its people.

 

Sheba are the Sabaeans, descendants of Sheba, are well known both from the Bible and from other sources. In OT times, Sheba appears as a wealthy trading nation. It is generally held that it was this country whose queen paid a state visit to Solomon. Later the Sabaeans became the most important people of southern Arabia, in the country now called Yemen. (Queen Sheba never had sex with King Solomon, nor can you find it in the Bible. It is a myth; these people adopted the Judaic faith.) The SDA Bible Commentary, Vol. 1 p. 273-275

 

Let me just say this, and I am not trying to be smart but please know your history. I have since becoming an Adventist in the 50's, beginning in the 60's I studied and did detail research on the ethnic backgrounds on all three of Noah's sons. This is what led me to be a Biblical Historian. I was tired of seeing Indo-Europeans receiving all the fames of every nation in the Bible! It was the SDA Bible Commentaries that lead me down the right direction. I still found racial biasness even with the Commentaries so I had to do research for myself. There is more I can say but will leave it for a later time. The Hebrews are not to be found!

 

Blessings!

[phkrause]

I was tired of seeing Indo-Europeans receiving all the fames of every nation in the Bible!

 

Blessings!

Fame!!!!! Fame!!!!! You actually believe that the Jews/Israelites/Hebrews wanted all the things that happen to them throughout the years????? I don't know 1 Jew in my family that ever talks about the fame that they have received from the Holocaust, etc.!!!!! I don't even understand what the statement above means?????

[8thdaypriest]

In the time of Christ our LORD, the priests at the Temple would check the barley to see just WHEN it would be ripe for harvest. 

THEN they would set the day for Passover.  If the barley needed another month, then the priests would postpone Passover for a month.

 

Today - we don't have those priests any longer.  Most of us don't have any barley planted in our back yards. 

So - we go by the standardized Rabbinic calendar.  I have a volume with all the dates going out to 2100.

It is "The Comprehensive Hebrew Calendar" by Arthur Spier. 

 

There are ongoing debates, and disputes over Feast date setting within the Hebrew Roots and Messianic communities.

 

My point - is that we only commemorate Passover.  We don't actually "KEEP" it, as it was first commanded. 

Now - Is our commemoration - at the TIME set by the Rabies - BETTER than celebrating the resurrection of the LORD on Easter Sunday.

I feel it is.  But that's just my personal opinion. 

 

Blessings,

Rachel Cory

Prophecy Viewpoint

[8thdaypriest]

Concerning "as often as" :

 

1 Corinthians 11:24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, "Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me." (NKJ)

 

1 Corinthians 11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me" (NKJ).

 

Luke 22:19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me." (NKJ)

 

What exactly is "this" -  As in "this do" in remembrance of Me ?

 

It's not about bread in general, or even unleavened bread in general.  It's about PASSOVER UNLEAVENED BREAD. 

THAT is what symbolized the broken body of Jesus. 

 

It's not about grape juice in general. 

It's about the PASSOVER CUP, which even had a name.  It was called "the cup of redemption".  It was the last cup that was drunk at the PASSOVER. 

 

In context, Paul is speaking about Passover. 

I Cor 5:7-8  "For indeed Christ, our Passover, as sacrificed for us.  Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malize,and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth." 

 

When Paul says "let us keep the feast" - WHAT FEAST is that? 

PASSOVER

 

I don't see Jesus instituting a new feast called "The LORD's supper."  (Which most often is served during the 11:00 hour service - not after sundown.) 

 

I was forty years old when I first realized that the "last supper" was actually the Passover supper.  I certainly felt like something big had been left out of what I learned in the Sabbath School.  It just was NOT emphasized.  I see that as a great failing within Adventism.  They need to teach them and celebrate them repeatedly thru the year, with their kids.  Understanding how each of those Spring Feasts was fulfilled to the very hour, gives us HOPE that the Fall Feasts will be fulfilled "in like manner". 

 

Blessings,

Rachel Cory

Prophecy Viewpoint

[stinsonmarri]

Fame!!!!! Fame!!!!! You actually believe that the Jews/Israelites/Hebrews wanted all the things that happen to them throughout the years????? I don't know 1 Jew in my family that ever talks about the fame that they have received from the Holocaust, etc.!!!!! I don't even understand what the statement above means?????

First, I was talking in general and not about the Ashkenazim's that were killed by Hitler. No one has the right to take human life regardless of who they are and what they believe. Remember once upon a time you were hated as much as me. You have been reprieve but let face it Blacks have not even having a Black President. The point I want to express clearly is that the Hebrew as an ethnic group cannot be trace. DNA can only show or state that a small percentage can be trace back to Middle Eastern. But what is Middle Eastern today not the Semitic people who have been swallow up by the Aryan people and that's a fact! Even some of Kushites who lived in India, Afghanistan, Kurdistan, Pakistan (which once was part of India.) and Southern Arabia are all mixed with the Medes and Persian. The Luwian mingled with the true Hitti, Heth's children and kept their language through the Hitti religion. The Indo Europeans came, conquered, and replace people especially the Hebrews who gave them so much trouble. For a while, those who remain in Palestine lived peacefully with the Arabs but the first crusade wiped them out. Many were force to either be Catholic or Muslims and married women of those religions. Many in other countries adopted the Jewish faiths that were not Hebrews and the ethnic group has been dissimilated. There is no actual Hebrew blood to match with only Middle Eastern and that covers Aryan known as Indo and Europeans who are related, Afrikans and Arabs that are both Semitic and Hamitic. Gen 9:27

 

Blessings!

[stinsonmarri]

Concerning "as often as" :

 

1 Corinthians 11:24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, "Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me." (NKJ)

 

1 Corinthians 11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me" (NKJ).

 

Luke 22:19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me." (NKJ)

 

What exactly is "this" -  As in "this do" in remembrance of Me ?

 

It's not about bread in general, or even unleavened bread in general.  It's about PASSOVER UNLEAVENED BREAD. 

THAT is what symbolized the broken body of Jesus. 

 

It's not about grape juice in general. 

It's about the PASSOVER CUP, which even had a name.  It was called "the cup of redemption".  It was the last cup that was drunk at the PASSOVER. 

 

In context, Paul is speaking about Passover. 

I Cor 5:7-8  "For indeed Christ, our Passover, as sacrificed for us.  Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malize,and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth." 

 

When Paul says "let us keep the feast" - WHAT FEAST is that? 

PASSOVER

 

I don't see Jesus instituting a new feast called "The LORD's supper."  (Which most often is served during the 11:00 hour service - not after sundown.) 

 

I was forty years old when I first realized that the "last supper" was actually the Passover supper.  I certainly felt like something big had been left out of what I learned in the Sabbath School.  It just was NOT emphasized.  I see that as a great failing within Adventism.  They need to teach them and celebrate them repeatedly thru the year, with their kids.  Understanding how each of those Spring Feasts was fulfilled to the very hour, gives us HOPE that the Fall Feasts will be fulfilled "in like manner". 

 

Blessings,

Rachel Cory

Prophecy Viewpoint

Rachel this is what the Bible says:

 

And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs, they shall eat it. Ex 12:8 

 

For this represents MY BLOOD of the New Covenant which concerning many is being poured out for remission of sins. Mat 26:28

 

And HE said to them, this is MY BLOOD, that of the New Covenant, which is poured out concerning many. Mark 14:24

 

Likewise also, the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the New Testament in MY BLOOD, which is shed for you. Luke 22:20

 

Purge out therefore the old leaven that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even THE MESSIAH is our PASSOVER is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the Holy Convocation, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1Co 5:7, 8  

 

The original passover supper according to the Bible was a roasted lamb, unleavened bread and bitter herbs which is what YAHSHUA ate with HIS disciples. HE the gave a New Covenant instead of placing blood on the gold post, but in symbolizing it true meaning in our hearts. YAHSHUA then took the unleavened bread only and something new wine and gave these things in place of the old symbols. HE also gave a new meals as well to replace the old, why! Because HE was THE TRUE LAMB and HE became our PASSOVER, in the Garden and not on the tree! HE spiritual died in the Garden, and the physical man would have died if THE FATHER had't sent angels to revive HIM. They pointed that HE must died as the BURNT OFFERING on the tree that was promised to Adam! Yes, it should be taken once a year to replace the old and YAHSHUA showed the way if we obey and truly follow HIM! When you implement something new then the old is gone! Is is HIS supper because HE died for us. 

 

Sometime we want everything to be spell out to us our way and not HIS. The disciples understood, because they knew the difference from the old and the new. The first day folks want to say that this includes YAHWEH'S Law but it does not! The New Covenant YAHSHUA was talking about is very clear and that was not the same Covenant they took in Egypt! So YAHSHUA did make it very clear, many want to find any excuse to do it their way! Taking it every thirteen Sabbaths, every day at mass, or what ever time they feel "often" really doesn't mean! However often doesn't apply to anything else like birthdays, pagan Christmas, pagan New Years, pagan Halloween or any of the pagan feast days. These days only come once a year!!!!!!

 

YAHSHUA took it on the Holy Convocation of Unleavened Bread to show clearly it was to be taken once a year at the same time with small groups or family. HE then took from the old the unleavened bread that deals with sin and brought in something new the wine to represent HIS BLOOD! Here is the New Covenant HE replace with HIS FATHER'S permission-YAHSHUA'S Supper!

 

Blessings!

[stinsonmarri]

In the time of Christ our LORD, the priests at the Temple would check the barley to see just WHEN it would be ripe for harvest. 

THEN they would set the day for Passover.  If the barley needed another month, then the priests would postpone Passover for a month.

 

Today - we don't have those priests any longer.  Most of us don't have any barley planted in our back yards. 

So - we go by the standardized Rabbinic calendar.  I have a volume with all the dates going out to 2100.

It is "The Comprehensive Hebrew Calendar" by Arthur Spier. 

 

There are ongoing debates, and disputes over Feast date setting within the Hebrew Roots and Messianic communities.

 

My point - is that we only commemorate Passover.  We don't actually "KEEP" it, as it was first commanded. 

Now - Is our commemoration - at the TIME set by the Rabies - BETTER than celebrating the resurrection of the LORD on Easter Sunday.

I feel it is.  But that's just my personal opinion. 

 

Blessings,

Rachel Cory

Prophecy Viewpoint

Rachel you are correct but this is also was what it is for and sets the foundation of truth;

 

This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you. Ex 12:2 

 

This day came ye out in the month Abib. Ex 13:4

 

Abı̂y: From an unused root (meaning to be tender); green, that is a young ear of grain

 

This is the only month that YAHWEH ELOHIM named and it begins the original year that was given in creation that also included the Holy Convocation days. That Sabbath was also included and HE declared that these days were HIS and Paul did not go against THE ALMIGHTY no matter what people tried to lie and claim he did!

 

Gen 1:14:

 

And said, Let light sources be in the expanse of the heavens, to divide between the day and the night. And let them be for signs and for (Holy Convocation days), and for days and years. (HRB)

 

Then ELOHIM said, "Let there be lights in the sky to separate the day from the night. They will be signs and will mark Holy Convocation days, days, and years. (GW)

 

Then God commanded, "Let lights appear in the sky to separate day from night and to show the time when days, years, and Holy Convocation days begin; (GNB) 

 

Then ELOHIM said, "Let there be lights in the sky. These lights will separate the days from the nights. They will be used for signs to show when special meetings begin and to show the days and years. (ERV) 

 

And YAHWEH spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the Holy Appointed Time of YAHWEH, which ye shall proclaim to be Holy Convocations (means to assemble), even these are MY Holy Set Times. Six days shall work be done: but the Seventh day is The Sabbath of MY Celebration, a Holy Convocation (means to assemble); ye shall do no work therein: it is The Sabbath of YAHWEH in all your dwellings. Lev 23:1-3  

 

The reason I gave other versions to show that man does know the truth, even if he don't keep it. That is why he is without an excuse! The Calendar we keep today is pagan. It was changed first by Nimrod, then the Egyptians, the Neo Babylonians, Pagan Rome and then by Pope Gregory! YAHWEH'S Calendar is a lunar/solar Calendar. The old Almanac were correct until the astrologist and stargazers took it over!  We know that the phases of the moon governs man's life, animal life and plants life. It all was given in creation before any life was given and sadly Adventist either refuse to accept or reject take your pick! When we accept it by the way of the Bible we will start repairing and restoring the breach in ELOHIM'S Word!

 

Blessings!

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This topic has served its purpose now. We'll open it up next year at Pesach.

It happens every single year
A time for joy, 
and to shed a tear
We celebrate the liberation
Of a chosen people 
Through God’s salvation.
The children of Israel were held as slaves
Deprived of freedom until their graves.
Pharaoh, ruler of Egypt bore
responsibility for this and more.
He ignored each one of Moses’ pleas
Nothing could move him
Nothing would appease.
Until  God’s holy intercession
The children of Israel would know oppression
Pharaoh was warned, he was advised,
This made him all the more despised.
Moses warned him once again
That he had no right to hold such men
Against their will, in utter squalor
With the yolk of bondage, worn like a collar
In the end all of Israel won
Through the love and favor of the Holy One

(author unknown)

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