Prolific inventor may one day sponsor many of SDA programs

[Armageddon]

There is a SDA, in California, who has a number of startup companies.  This Prolific inventor may one day sponsor many of SDA programs and outreaches.

 

His incredible inventions will revolutionize the world. He submitted one of them to multiple tests by independent research labs that are reknown - and they all show that he is able to increase increase gas mileage by 50 to 300%.  His hydrogen adaptor increased mileage of Jetta from 34 mpg to 120 miles per gallon - that over 300% improvement. 
He has a wealthy investor, a VP of a fortune 50 company, who love his inventions and has begun to fund him.
That world reknown  test lab found out the amazing reason why ML's adaptors can triple car mileage.  They asked him to run to patent office ASAP to file a new patent - which is what he is doing now.  I can't tell you much but it will revolutionize the world of fueling the next generation of electric cars.  This patent itself is worth more than his adaptors!!

And his wife and him are committed to funding SDA projects!!  He attribute his gifts to God.

 

Please pray for him that he will succeed.  He has marketing hurdles to clear now.  Satan has been impeding his progress!!

 

Shalom!

[fccool]

There have been a number of the like systems which ended up to be a complete sham.   Here's one:

 

http://www.aquatune.com/overview.php

 

And there are so so many other, and here's a reason why these simply won't improve the conventional gas and diesel engines:

 

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a3983/4310717/

 

I certainly hope that it's not the case with the person you are talking about, but a lot of these things actually got some investors on board by hyping the product, and it dies off when it doesn't really work or do anything.  The people who install these are then blamed for incorrect install, or some other reasons as to why they don't see any results. 

[Armageddon]

He faced sceptics like yourself all the time - that is why is he had funding problems, until recently.  However, his investor is the principle in a large multi million project for Kenya, so is cash strapped for next few months.  We hope he will come through with larger funding by June - for marketing purposes.  Almost all the international patents have been filed and some have been approved. 

 

His adaptors have been tested in 3 different labs, one of which is top in the nation. All the labs gave him standing ovation - they can't believe the incredible results themselves.  You can argue all you want - it really is simple to test mileage of a car.  They all showed that his adaptor improved mileage anywhere from 50 to 300% depending on size of engine.

 

(No, his adaptor does not use water, although hydrogen can be derived from water.)

 

He has another invention that will revolutionize Wind generators.  Another invention can potentially solve the world's energy needs for many many years.  Tesla's inventions were hard to believe, so are Mark's.  I expected many here to be sceptical, so no worries if you denigrate him down.  Steve Jobs had to overcome skeptics as well - he had to sleep on the floor of his friend's dorm and recycle bottles for 5 cents a piece to feed himself. Mark continues to be passionate in spite of skeptics, just like Tesla and Steve were.

 

As soon as he inks the first deal with a multinational, I will give you, the skeptics, links to that news release.

If you don't believe, then don't pray for him. 

We only need one person's prayer to change the world.

 

Shalom.

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

this reminds of my Dad's friend who developed a battery for cars in the early 1940's that would never die.  He got a patent on it, and was set to develop the sales.  One of the big auto manufacturers (I believe it was Ford), found out about it, and offered to buy the patent.  So the friend sold it - but the auto company shelved the invention after getting strong-armed by companies who made the batteries..

[Gregory Matthews]

The device referenced here appears to simply be a device that converts a water and baking soda mixture into hydrogen and oxygen and feeds the hydrogen into the engine to burn.  This basic device has been around for a while and is listed on a number of Internet sites.  One is: 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvXhp_3YB_

 

The device shown in the above video is sold as the DR 365 Hydro Oxygen converter for about $130 plus shipping and installation.  There are other websites which give you the instructions to build your own less than $100.

 

It should be noted that hydrogen is extremely explosive, much more than gasoline.  In fact Hydrogen was the gas used in the Hindenberg Zeppelin which exploded and crashed.

 

The issues: The Internet contain at least one example of a hydrogen converter being installed on an automobile engine which exploded and caught fire.

 

It must be remembered that the installation of such devices on modern automobiles may violate emission control standards and therefore require extensive and expensive laboratory evaluation and documentation to pass  government standards.

 

The URL for post # 2 is of value.

 

Also see the Dateline report at:

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29899191/#.VRn_yMd0yHs

 

The bottom line is that such devices use power in generating the required electricity to crack the water and end up failing to generate enough hydrogen to make a significant difference.

[Igakusei]

this reminds of my Dad's friend who developed a battery for cars in the early 1940's that would never die. He got a patent on it, and was set to develop the sales. One of the big auto manufacturers (I believe it was Ford), found out about it, and offered to buy the patent. So the friend sold it - but the auto company shelved the invention after getting strong-armed by companies who made the batteries..

I'll bite. Which patent?

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

I ought to try and find out the patent number...  the fellow is long passed, and my dad isn't here now either..  My dad and my grandpa had told me how it worked, but I'll be darned if I can remember!

[Armageddon]

This is a newly patented invention.  Thank God there are inventors who keep believe there is a better way - inspite of past failures of others and their own.  That's why there's only one Thomas Edison and millions of naysayers.  If Mr. Edison was a skeptic, he would not have experimented a thousand times before finding his "production ready" light bulb.

[Gregory Matthews]

Edison worked within established science to go  beyond what was available at that time.  If you look at his inventive history, he failed many more times than he succeeded. 

 

There may be a hydrogen fueled vehicle someday.   If that happens it will be because people learned from their failures.  That does not seem to be happening with those involved in such, as reported on the Internet.

[Igakusei]

This is a newly patented invention.  Thank God there are inventors who keep believe there is a better way - inspite of past failures of others and their own.  That's why there's only one Thomas Edison and millions of naysayers.  If Mr. Edison was a skeptic, he would not have experimented a thousand times before finding his "production ready" light bulb.

 

There may be a millions of naysayers for every brilliant genius like Edison, but there are also millions of crackpots too. Skepticism is a virtue when applied correctly. Push the boundaries of what is known, but don't just ignore them either. I'll believe it when I see evidence of it, but so far you're provided a lot of rhetoric and absolutely nothing of substance.

[Armageddon]

There may be a millions of naysayers for every brilliant genius like Edison, but there are also millions of crackpots too. Skepticism is a virtue when applied correctly. Push the boundaries of what is known, but don't just ignore them either. I'll believe it when I see evidence of it, but so far you're provided a lot of rhetoric and absolutely nothing of substance.

You are rather rude to write "provided a lot of rhetoric and absolutely nothing of substance".  I didn't post here to pique your idle curiousity.  Read carefully and you will find my request.

Shalom.

[Armageddon]

Edison worked within established science to go  beyond what was available at that time.  If you look at his inventive history, he failed many more times than he succeeded. 

 

There may be a hydrogen fueled vehicle someday.   If that happens it will be because people learned from their failures.  That does not seem to be happening with those involved in such, as reported on the Internet.

I'm surprised at all the "pretend experts" who pop up showing off how little they know. I come to this board asking for prayer but got a bunch of uninformed opinions from people who are not in this industry but are "wannabes".  I feel sad for this website - seems like non Adventists have taken over.  Hydrogen fueled vehicles have been prototyped some time ago.  Google it.

Here's a little education for you - there are at least a couple of different types - one heading your way:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1096639_2016-toyota-mirai-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car-a-few-things-we-noticed

Natural Gas vehicles have been in use for past few years in China.  I'm sure we will catch up to them ... soon?

 

Shalom!

[fccool]

This is a newly patented invention.  Thank God there are inventors who keep believe there is a better way - inspite of past failures of others and their own.  That's why there's only one Thomas Edison and millions of naysayers.  If Mr. Edison was a skeptic, he would not have experimented a thousand times before finding his "production ready" light bulb.

 

I'm not saying that we shouldn't believe that there's a better way, and you seem to completely misunderstand what skepticism is all about.   It's not merely about doubting any claim, it's about doubting claims that are not grounded in adequate evidence.

 

You make a post in a forum, providing undocumented claims about nameless inventor who has an extraordinary invention which hasn't shown to be effective in any other form, and yet you claim that this nameless invention was confirmed by nameless labs and we are simply supposed to accept that before you provided any shred of evidence that such thing is possible.

 

Let's ignore for a second the mere problem with physics of all of this....   you are saying that you don't have funding of something that's confirmed to increase engine efficiency by 300%?    For me, that's the most unbelievable part.   I can give you a whole list of investment firms who would be in a bid war to get on something like this... nevermind someone like Elon Musk, who would probably put his Tesla and Hyperloop projects on hold, because we are talking a new breakthrough in combustion engine technology which will reduce car-related carbon emissions 300% on top of reducing this country's dependence on foreign oil.

 

I'm not saying that incredible things are not possible, I simply don't see it as likely given that you've given extraordinary claims with zero credible references or evidence that such things are possible.

 

PS.  You don't get to point to Edison in this case and say "This guy is like Edison, and Edison wouldn't invent what he did if he was skeptic".   Skepticism is a part of scientific philosophy.   Edison wouldn't be a good inventor if he believed every nonsensical hyped claim.

 

And the thing is, there seems to be a too-common pattern.  Some enormous claim with no documentation to back it up dropped on a forum, what do you expect.

 

Likewise, I'm not doing this because I just refuse to believe possibilities.   I actually want it to be true, just like I wanted every "overunity engine" discovery to be true.   I've waited with excitement about Steorn's claims and hype in 2007 and 2009.   They've raised 5 million and hype was fairly high, and they failed to show any results.   But they at least had a live working demonstration they were willing to rig up.

 

You have a claim on a forum, with no name, no press release,  nothing that would substantiate what you claim in any way.   Why should anyone believe a mere claim, which has show in the past to be ineffective?

 

I'm not saying it's absolutely impossible,  the evidence is simply lacking.   Don't take it the wrong way... if you really have something that works - Good luck!   I would certainly want it to work.   I just don't currently believe that it does.

[fccool]

I'm surprised at all the "pretend experts" who pop up showing off how little they know. I come to this board asking for prayer but got a bunch of uninformed opinions from people who are not in this industry but are "wannabes".  I feel sad for this website - seems like non Adventists have taken over.  Hydrogen fueled vehicles have been prototyped some time ago.  Google it.

Here's a little education for you - there are at least a couple of different types - one heading your way:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1096639_2016-toyota-mirai-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car-a-few-things-we-noticed

Natural Gas vehicles have been in use for past few years in China.  I'm sure we will catch up to them ... soon?

 

Shalom!

 

We are not saying this because we want to knock on this case.   Again, if you have something that works... Great!  It would be a better world where we can modify our existing engines to run on 3 times less gasoline.  

 

But it simply doesn't seem like anything that one could take seriously. 

 

Likewise, you seem to not understand the difference between a car that was designed to run on a fuel cell, and a standard combustion engine that cars use today as you provide a link to Mirai claiming that it's relevant technology development.

 

Myrai runs on a hydrogen fuel cell, which is essentially an electric generator that runs on hydrogen and powers the car's electric motor.    The hydrogen is pre-refined and compressed, and requires a very sophisticated engineering to keep it safe in a crash-proof containment to fuel the cell.

 

What you are talking about is taking a regular car and adding a line that will pump hydrogen into the engine .... likely by splitting water using the electricity coming from the alternator, which actually uses up more gas than any relevant boots that it could possibly provide.   There are a wide number of these "adaptors" from hundreds, if not thousands, inventors who have yet to conclusively demonstrate any viable and justifiable boost in efficiency.  

 

 

 

[Gregory Matthews]

Armageddon, in post # !2 said:

 

 

I'm surprised at all the "pretend experts" who pop up showing off how little they know. I come to this board asking for prayer but got a bunch of uninformed opinions from people who are not in this industry but are "wannabes".  I feel sad for this website - seems like non Adventists have taken over.  Hydrogen fueled vehicles have been prototyped some time ago.  Google it.

Here's a little education for you - there are at least a couple of different types - one heading your way:

http://www.greencarr...ings-we-noticed

Natural Gas vehicles have been in use for past few years in China.  I'm sure we will catch up to them ... soon?

 

Let us be clear:  Probably the majority (I would think everyone) posting here is aware of the work that is being done on developing a vehicle that runs on hydrogen gas.  I doubt that we need education from you on this point.  Also, many of us are well aware of vehicles that run on natural gas are traveling on our streets right now.  I regularly see them on the streets that I drive.

 

You may consider us to be "uneducated."  The extent of the education on a subject can be determined by the posts that people make here.  On the basis of what you have posted, your education on the matter is in sharp contrast to those who have responded to you.  In fairness, it may very well be that you are far more educated than any one else who has posted here.  However, at this point in time, you have not demonstrated such.

 

As to prayer:  God expects some level of rationality in our prayers.  Your request for prayer has not demonstrated any significant level of rationality.  Your request suggests to me that God would approve of a prayer that one could continue to use tobacco and never get cancer.

 

We allow a considerable level of freedom to post here in CA.  But, that freedom gives others the freedom to respond.  If you decide to post as you have posted, expect such responses.  You have used terms like "pretend experts,"  "show how little they know," uninformed opinions," wanabes," and Here's a little education for you."    If you chose to post here with that level of discussion, please expect a response in kind.

[Tom Wetmore]

Armageddon,

Adding to what Gregory just said... Perhaps you are taking this too personally. Nobody is being rude. The responses are to the substance (really lack of...) of what you have posted. Fccool has identified the justifiably skeptical response to vague claims with no specifc evidence. We have nothing on which to be anything other than skeptical. We don't even know who you are since you come here and post under a pseudonym. When you cloak yourself in mystery and vagueness do not be surprised if some may not take you seriously.

On prayer, it is hard to avoid a sense of it being self serving to ask God for material success and wealth so that one can contribute more to His work. I know there are many good wealthy people who do give generously of their means. But to suggest to God that if He gives temporal success He will be given a generous portion, almost makes it sound like trying to offer God a kickback. I don't think God works that way. I think God may be more likely to honor the faithful generosity of those that give generously to him and others despite having no apparently blessing of abundance. (Widows two small coins...)

[Bravus]

Petrol engines are only about 20% efficient, so a 300% increase in efficiency (i.e. to 60% efficient) doesn't break the laws of thermodynamics.

I'm very happy to wait patiently to see the evidence: if these claims are well founded, we will all see the evidence, and soon.