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8thdaypriest Posted July 23, 2015 Posted July 23, 2015 Thousands of Muslims, all over the world, are turning to Jesus as the Divine Son of God. They risk death in so doing. When did we Westerners risk death, in turning to Jesus as our LORD and Savior? To believe that GOD had a son, is anathema to a Muslim. Much less a Trinity of three divine beings. Muslims believe that Jesus will return as a prophet, who will turn the world to Islam - by force. So their Jesus is our Antichrist. Jews are considered by Muslims, to be lower than pigs. Jews do not eat pork. Jews actually do worship only ONE divine being. Jews do not bow down to idols. Those practices do NOT make them acceptable to Muslims. Thousands of Muslims are becoming weary of the violence, and the cruelty. ISIS has revealed, to this modern age - the true nature of ISLAM. ISIS is actually causing thousands to turn from that religion of violence. I personally support "The Jesus Film Project". This is a film based entirely upon the Gospel of Luke. It follows Scripture very accurately. All dialog is from Luke's Gospel. The film has been translated into some 800+ languages and dialects. Digital copies of that film, have penetrated into Muslim areas more deeply than any other Christian outreach. You can watch the video for free at the website. JoeMo and Sojourner 2 Quote 8thdaypriest
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted July 23, 2015 Moderators Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Rachel has raised some interesting questions which are actually quite complex. I will only comment on her suggestion that Muslims consider Jews to be lower than pigs. This is a common perception in the Islamic world. But, It is more deeply held by Shites. It is loosely based on the Quran 5:60 and 2:65. It is expanded beyond the Quran in the Hadith. That is an important factor in considering this issue. In the early days, it was only applied to Jews. Later Christians were also included In more modern times the Sunni have applied it to Shites. In some of its applications, it is only applied to individuals who have committed specific sins according to Islamic thought. In other applications, it has been applied to ethnic groups. In more modern times persons are thought be actual decendents of pigs but not actual pigs themselves. Edited July 23, 2015 by Gregory Matthews 8thdaypriest 1 Quote Gregory
Sojourner Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) A good conversation starter when you want to share the Gospel with a muslim of any sect of islam is to ask them if they think that there is enough revelation of who Jesus Christ really is in the koran to get them saved if they believe on Him? A discussion on why the koran tells us that Jesus was born of a virgin can be another interesting discussion and why the koran suggests this makes Him different to all the other people mentioned. Edited July 24, 2015 by Sojourner Quote
JoeMo Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 Before engaging a Muslim (or anyone else) in a religious discussion, It is important to establish a trusting, friendly relationship forst. People generally don't put much weight on what you have to say untl they are confident that you care what they say. When most Muslims realize that you are a friend and not a foe, they will open up to you. Some Christian missionaries (like Leif Hetland and several missionaries with AFM) are respected by Islam. Why? Because these missionaries love them first; and then preach to them once a positive relationship has been established. 8thdaypriest 1 Quote
Members phkrause Posted July 24, 2015 Members Posted July 24, 2015 Also JoeMo lots of Muslims have a great relationship with SDAs. Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
8thdaypriest Posted July 24, 2015 Posted July 24, 2015 Muslims need to see/experience miracles. There was a seamstress, in Albuquerque, that I went to about 25 years ago. She was from Iran. Her sister was actually shot by Khomeni's firing squad. She escaped with her younger son, but her older son was still in Iran with his father. The father had given her permission (astonishing) to take the older boy, but she could not get a visa for him. Then I came to have some clothing altered. She had been crying that day. I asked her what was wrong, and the whole story came tumbling out. I asked her if we could say a prayer together, to the Father in Jesus name? She consented. I think she was just being nice, not wanting to offend a good customer. The next day nothing happened, but the following day a new customer came to see her. The same thing happened. Tears, and story .... The new customer turned out to be the wife of the head of immigration with an office in Albuquerque. The woman talked with her husband, and within a week - a visa was issued for the older boy. My seamstress friend was sooooooo excited. She said she absolutely now believed in JESUS !! She joined a small Christian group, and was still meeting with them 7 years later. We moved and I lost track of her after that. Quote 8thdaypriest
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