GayatfootofCross Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Killing Cecil The Lion: Does God Care How We Treat Animals? » What People Really Mean When They Say “But I Believe The WHOLE Bible” July 27, 2015 by Benjamin L. Corey 159 Comments “But I believe the WHOLE Bible.” It’s a very common phrase I hear in Christian circles. In the course of teaching others to live how Jesus lived, to do what Jesus did, and to follow what Jesus taught, there are no shortage of objections to the idea. Sadly, those who most often object to the radical notion we should actually follow what Jesus did and obey what he taught, are fellow Christians. While we may love to sing, “I have decided to follow Jesus, no turning back, no turning back,” when we get into the nitty-gritty of emulating how Jesus lived and obeying the things that he taught, we stumble upon things that just don’t seem sensible to us. Love your enemies? Die for enemies instead of killing them? Blessed are the meek? Put away your sword? It’s just too much for some Christians. And so, those who are struggling with the commitment to follow Jesus pull the ace from their sleeve: “But I believe the whole Bible.” I’ll admit, it sounds good on the surface, but here’s what it really means: it means, “I don’t particularly care for what Jesus said in this passage, but I do know of one from the Old Testament which would contradict that, so I’ll go with the Old Testament.” I’ve heard it expressed a little more directly at times. “Yes, Jesus did say to love your enemies, but Jesus is the SAME God who commanded we slaughter the Canaanite babies, so certainly he didn’t mean we can’t kill our enemies. I’m going to go ahead and believe the WHOLE Bible, thanks.” It’s an easy game to play because you have plenty of text to choose from. As my friend Brian Zahnd recently told me, “the cleverest way to hide from Jesus is behind a Bible.” Sadly, this is true. If you want to completely run away from the example and teachings of Jesus you can do so without ever leaving the pages of Scripture. Hiding from Jesus and using a Bible to do it is nothing new– it’s been that way since he walked among us. In fact, in John 5:39 we find Jesus rebuking the religious leaders for using the Bible as a shield to avoid this radical new way of living he was proposing. In that exchange he tells them that they had missed the entire purpose of scripture: himself. Jesus warns that one can know the Old Testament inside and out, but still miss the point of it all. He warns that if one uses Scripture to avoid his new way of living, if one uses Scripture to find reasons not to follow his teachings and example, they will have missed out on life itself. Jesus went onto explain it using an analogy of house building– a story many of us learned by song when we were kids. There was a wise man who built his house upon a rock, and a foolish man who built his house on sand. As the story goes, the “rains came down and the floods came up, the rains came down and the floods came up.” Which one lasted? The one on the rock, of course. At the end of the analogy Jesus explains, “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.” (Matthew 7:24) Notice he didn’t say, “everyone who reads the law of Moses and puts it into practice is like a wise man…” but said, “everyone who hears these words of mine…” When someone stumbles upon something Jesus said and responds with, “But I believe the whole Bible” they are engaging in a 2,000 year-old tradition of using the Bible to hide from Jesus, and become the foolish builder of the story who refused to build their house on the only thing that was worth building on: the example and teaching of Jesus. Later in the New Testament, we even find a warning that the only proof one is of God, is that they emulate the example of Jesus: “Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.” (1 John 2:6) Notice the evidence we belong to God isn’t that we live like Moses or Joshua, or anyone else in the Bible– but Jesus. You see, the point of God’s story is Jesus. It’s always been a story about Jesus. It’s never been about anything else. The moment we miss that truth is the moment we become the ancient religious leaders who used the Old Testament to hide from the new thing God wanted to show them. The entire purpose of the Christian life is to live and be like Jesus– right here, right now. Not anyone else in the Bible, but Jesus. Is the Old Testament useful? Certainly. But whenever there is tension between something Jesus said and something from elsewhere in the Bible, the tiebreaker always goes to Jesus. ALWAYS. That’s because Jesus said the entire point of the Old Testament was to bring us to the place where we’d follow him. Just him. No one and nothing gets to share his place. Not other characters from the Bible or even the Bible itself. If Jesus is Lord, nothing else can be. So, when someone responds to the teachings of Jesus with, “But I believe the whole Bible” it’s usually a sign that one is on the run from Jesus and using the very tool designed to pointus to Jesus as a get-away car. But it is our job to keep pointing people back to Jesus– even fellow Christians, as unpopular as that may be. Because following the teachings and life example of Jesus has always been the point of it all. ............................................................................................................................................................................................. If asked why Jesus had to die on the cross, most Christians today would immediately answer, “To pay for my sins.” Jesus certainly paid the price for our sins, but it might surprise some reader to learn that this wasn’t the way Christians would answer this question for the first thousand years of Church history. The main reason Jesus died on the cross, according to this earlier view, was to defeat Satan and set us free from his oppressive rule. Everything else that Jesus accomplished, including paying for our sins, was to be understood as an aspect and consequence of this victory. This earlier understanding of why Jesus had to die is called the Christus Victor (Latin for “Christ is Victorious”) view of the atonement. In my estimation it captures the profound beauty of the New Testament account better than the view that focuses exclusively on what Jesus did for us. The Christus Victor motif is strongly emphasized throughout the New Testament. Scripture declares that Jesus came into this world to “drive out the ruler of this world” (Jn 12:31), to “destroy the works of the devil” (I Jn 3:8), to “destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil” (Heb. 2:14-15) and to ultimately “put all his enemies under his feet” (I Cor 15:25). Jesus came to overpower the “strong man” (Satan) who holds the world in bondage and to work with his children to “plunder his house” (Lk 11:21-22). He came to end the reign of the cosmic “thief” who seized the world to “steal and kill and destroy” the life God intended for us (Jn 10:10). Jesus came to earth and died on the cross to disarm “the rulers and authorities” and make a “public spectacle of them” by “triumphing over them on the cross” (Col 2:15). Beyond these explicit statements, there are many other passages that express the Christus Victor motif as well. For example, the first prophecy in the Bible foretells that a descendent of Eve (Jesus) would crush the head of the serpent (Gen. 3:15). The first Christian sermon ever preached proclaims that Jesus in principle conquered all God’s enemies (Ac 2:32-36). And the single most frequently quoted Old Testament passage by New Testament authors is Psalm 110:1 which predicts that Christ would conquer all God’s opponents. (Pslams.110 is quoted or alluded to Mt 22:41-45; 26:64; Mk 12:35-37; 14:62; Lk 20:41-44; 22:69; Ac 5:31; 7:55-56; Rom 8:34; I Cor 15:22-25; Eph 1:20; Heb 1:3; 1:13; 5:6, 10; 6:20; 7:11, 15,17,21; 8:1; 10:12-13; I Pet 3:22; and Rev. 3:21) According to the great New Testament scholar Oscar Cullman, the frequency with which New Testament authors cite this Psalm is the greatest proof that Christ’s “victory over the angel powers stands at the very center of early Christian thought.” The Incarnation of the Son of God fulfilled God’s original dream of uniting himself to humanity to acquire a bride and co-ruler. But it’s clear from the Christus Victor motif we’ve just examined that, because of our rebellion, the Incarnation also involved a rescue mission that included a strategy for vanquishing the powers of darkness. Image by Lawrence OP via Flickr. - See more at: http://reknew.org/2015/07/why-did-jesus-die-on-the-cross/#sthash.uxCWclZl.dpuf eKnew / Blog / Miscellaneous / Why Did Jesus Die on the Cross? Why Did Jesus Die on the Cross? 28 Jul 2015 Posted By: Greg Boyd If asked why Jesus had to die on the cross, most Christians today would immediately answer, “To pay for my sins.” Jesus certainly paid the price for our sins, but it might surprise some reader to learn that this wasn’t the way Christians would answer this question for the first thousand years of Church history. The main reason Jesus died on the cross, according to this earlier view, was to defeat Satan and set us free from his oppressive rule. Everything else that Jesus accomplished, including paying for our sins, was to be understood as an aspect and consequence of this victory. This earlier understanding of why Jesus had to die is called the Christus Victor (Latin for “Christ is Victorious”) view of the atonement. In my estimation it captures the profound beauty of the New Testament account better than the view that focuses exclusively on what Jesus did for us. The Christus Victor motif is strongly emphasized throughout the New Testament. Scripture declares that Jesus came into this world to “drive out the ruler of this world” (Jn 12:31), to “destroy the works of the devil” (I Jn 3:8), to “destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil” (Heb. 2:14-15) and to ultimately “put all his enemies under his feet” (I Cor 15:25). Jesus came to overpower the “strong man” (Satan) who holds the world in bondage and to work with his children to “plunder his house” (Lk 11:21-22). He came to end the reign of the cosmic “thief” who seized the world to “steal and kill and destroy” the life God intended for us (Jn 10:10). Jesus came to earth and died on the cross to disarm “the rulers and authorities” and make a “public spectacle of them” by “triumphing over them on the cross” (Col 2:15). Beyond these explicit statements, there are many other passages that express the Christus Victor motif as well. For example, the first prophecy in the Bible foretells that a descendent of Eve (Jesus) would crush the head of the serpent (Gen. 3:15). The first Christian sermon ever preached proclaims that Jesus in principle conquered all God’s enemies (Ac 2:32-36). And the single most frequently quoted Old Testament passage by New Testament authors is Psalm 110:1 which predicts that Christ would conquer all God’s opponents. (Pslams.110 is quoted or alluded to Mt 22:41-45; 26:64; Mk 12:35-37; 14:62; Lk 20:41-44; 22:69; Ac 5:31; 7:55-56; Rom 8:34; I Cor 15:22-25; Eph 1:20; Heb 1:3; 1:13; 5:6, 10; 6:20; 7:11, 15,17,21; 8:1; 10:12-13; I Pet 3:22; and Rev. 3:21) According to the great New Testament scholar Oscar Cullman, the frequency with which New Testament authors cite this Psalm is the greatest proof that Christ’s “victory over the angel powers stands at the very center of early Christian thought.” The Incarnation of the Son of God fulfilled God’s original dream of uniting himself to humanity to acquire a bride and co-ruler. But it’s clear from the Christus Victor motif we’ve just examined that, because of our rebellion, the Incarnation also involved a rescue mission that included a strategy for vanquishing the powers of darkness. Image by Lawrence OP via Flickr. - See more at: http://reknew.org/2015/07/why-did-jesus-die-on-the-cross/#sthash.uxCWclZl.dpuf Why Did Jesus Die on the Cross? 28 Jul 2015 Posted By: Greg Boyd If asked why Jesus had to die on the cross, most Christians today would immediately answer, “To pay for my sins.” Jesus certainly paid the price for our sins, but it might surprise some reader to learn that this wasn’t the way Christians would answer this question for the first thousand years of Church history. The main reason Jesus died on the cross, according to this earlier view, was to defeat Satan and set us free from his oppressive rule. Everything else that Jesus accomplished, including paying for our sins, was to be understood as an aspect and consequence of this victory. This earlier understanding of why Jesus had to die is called the Christus Victor (Latin for “Christ is Victorious”) view of the atonement. In my estimation it captures the profound beauty of the New Testament account better than the view that focuses exclusively on what Jesus did for us. The Christus Victor motif is strongly emphasized throughout the New Testament. Scripture declares that Jesus came into this world to “drive out the ruler of this world” (Jn 12:31), to “destroy the works of the devil” (I Jn 3:8), to “destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil” (Heb. 2:14-15) and to ultimately “put all his enemies under his feet” (I Cor 15:25). Jesus came to overpower the “strong man” (Satan) who holds the world in bondage and to work with his children to “plunder his house” (Lk 11:21-22). He came to end the reign of the cosmic “thief” who seized the world to “steal and kill and destroy” the life God intended for us (Jn 10:10). Jesus came to earth and died on the cross to disarm “the rulers and authorities” and make a “public spectacle of them” by “triumphing over them on the cross” (Col 2:15). Beyond these explicit statements, there are many other passages that express the Christus Victor motif as well. For example, the first prophecy in the Bible foretells that a descendent of Eve (Jesus) would crush the head of the serpent (Gen. 3:15). The first Christian sermon ever preached proclaims that Jesus in principle conquered all God’s enemies (Ac 2:32-36). And the single most frequently quoted Old Testament passage by New Testament authors is Psalm 110:1 which predicts that Christ would conquer all God’s opponents. (Pslams.110 is quoted or alluded to Mt 22:41-45; 26:64; Mk 12:35-37; 14:62; Lk 20:41-44; 22:69; Ac 5:31; 7:55-56; Rom 8:34; I Cor 15:22-25; Eph 1:20; Heb 1:3; 1:13; 5:6, 10; 6:20; 7:11, 15,17,21; 8:1; 10:12-13; I Pet 3:22; and Rev. 3:21) According to the great New Testament scholar Oscar Cullman, the frequency with which New Testament authors cite this Psalm is the greatest proof that Christ’s “victory over the angel powers stands at the very center of early Christian thought.” The Incarnation of the Son of God fulfilled God’s original dream of uniting himself to humanity to acquire a bride and co-ruler. But it’s clear from the Christus Victor motif we’ve just examined that, because of our rebellion, the Incarnation also involved a rescue mission that included a strategy for vanquishing the powers of darkness. - See more at: http://reknew.org/2015/07/why-did-jesus-die-on-the-cross/#sthash.o2oKFgpe.dpuf Why Did Jesus Die on the Cross? 28 Jul 2015 Posted By: Greg Boyd If asked why Jesus had to die on the cross, most Christians today would immediately answer, “To pay for my sins.” Jesus certainly paid the price for our sins, but it might surprise some reader to learn that this wasn’t the way Christians would answer this question for the first thousand years of Church history. The main reason Jesus died on the cross, according to this earlier view, was to defeat Satan and set us free from his oppressive rule. Everything else that Jesus accomplished, including paying for our sins, was to be understood as an aspect and consequence of this victory. This earlier understanding of why Jesus had to die is called the Christus Victor (Latin for “Christ is Victorious”) view of the atonement. In my estimation it captures the profound beauty of the New Testament account better than the view that focuses exclusively on what Jesus did for us. The Christus Victor motif is strongly emphasized throughout the New Testament. Scripture declares that Jesus came into this world to “drive out the ruler of this world” (Jn 12:31), to “destroy the works of the devil” (I Jn 3:8), to “destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil” (Heb. 2:14-15) and to ultimately “put all his enemies under his feet” (I Cor 15:25). Jesus came to overpower the “strong man” (Satan) who holds the world in bondage and to work with his children to “plunder his house” (Lk 11:21-22). He came to end the reign of the cosmic “thief” who seized the world to “steal and kill and destroy” the life God intended for us (Jn 10:10). Jesus came to earth and died on the cross to disarm “the rulers and authorities” and make a “public spectacle of them” by “triumphing over them on the cross” (Col 2:15). Beyond these explicit statements, there are many other passages that express the Christus Victor motif as well. For example, the first prophecy in the Bible foretells that a descendent of Eve (Jesus) would crush the head of the serpent (Gen. 3:15). The first Christian sermon ever preached proclaims that Jesus in principle conquered all God’s enemies (Ac 2:32-36). And the single most frequently quoted Old Testament passage by New Testament authors is Psalm 110:1 which predicts that Christ would conquer all God’s opponents. (Pslams.110 is quoted or alluded to Mt 22:41-45; 26:64; Mk 12:35-37; 14:62; Lk 20:41-44; 22:69; Ac 5:31; 7:55-56; Rom 8:34; I Cor 15:22-25; Eph 1:20; Heb 1:3; 1:13; 5:6, 10; 6:20; 7:11, 15,17,21; 8:1; 10:12-13; I Pet 3:22; and Rev. 3:21) According to the great New Testament scholar Oscar Cullman, the frequency with which New Testament authors cite this Psalm is the greatest proof that Christ’s “victory over the angel powers stands at the very center of early Christian thought.” The Incarnation of the Son of God fulfilled God’s original dream of uniting himself to humanity to acquire a bride and co-ruler. But it’s clear from the Christus Victor motif we’ve just examined that, because of our rebellion, the Incarnation also involved a rescue mission that included a strategy for vanquishing the powers of darkness. - See more at: http://reknew.org/2015/07/why-did-jesus-die-on-the-cross/#sthash.o2oKFgpe.dpuf Samie and pnattmbtc 2 Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
Why Did Jesus Die on the Cross? 28 Jul 2015 Posted By: Greg Boyd If asked why Jesus had to die on the cross, most Christians today would immediately answer, “To pay for my sins.” Jesus certainly paid the price for our sins, but it might surprise some reader to learn that this wasn’t the way Christians would answer this question for the first thousand years of Church history. The main reason Jesus died on the cross, according to this earlier view, was to defeat Satan and set us free from his oppressive rule. Everything else that Jesus accomplished, including paying for our sins, was to be understood as an aspect and consequence of this victory. This earlier understanding of why Jesus had to die is called the Christus Victor (Latin for “Christ is Victorious”) view of the atonement. In my estimation it captures the profound beauty of the New Testament account better than the view that focuses exclusively on what Jesus did for us. The Christus Victor motif is strongly emphasized throughout the New Testament. Scripture declares that Jesus came into this world to “drive out the ruler of this world” (Jn 12:31), to “destroy the works of the devil” (I Jn 3:8), to “destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil” (Heb. 2:14-15) and to ultimately “put all his enemies under his feet” (I Cor 15:25). Jesus came to overpower the “strong man” (Satan) who holds the world in bondage and to work with his children to “plunder his house” (Lk 11:21-22). He came to end the reign of the cosmic “thief” who seized the world to “steal and kill and destroy” the life God intended for us (Jn 10:10). Jesus came to earth and died on the cross to disarm “the rulers and authorities” and make a “public spectacle of them” by “triumphing over them on the cross” (Col 2:15). Beyond these explicit statements, there are many other passages that express the Christus Victor motif as well. For example, the first prophecy in the Bible foretells that a descendent of Eve (Jesus) would crush the head of the serpent (Gen. 3:15). The first Christian sermon ever preached proclaims that Jesus in principle conquered all God’s enemies (Ac 2:32-36). And the single most frequently quoted Old Testament passage by New Testament authors is Psalm 110:1 which predicts that Christ would conquer all God’s opponents. (Pslams.110 is quoted or alluded to Mt 22:41-45; 26:64; Mk 12:35-37; 14:62; Lk 20:41-44; 22:69; Ac 5:31; 7:55-56; Rom 8:34; I Cor 15:22-25; Eph 1:20; Heb 1:3; 1:13; 5:6, 10; 6:20; 7:11, 15,17,21; 8:1; 10:12-13; I Pet 3:22; and Rev. 3:21) According to the great New Testament scholar Oscar Cullman, the frequency with which New Testament authors cite this Psalm is the greatest proof that Christ’s “victory over the angel powers stands at the very center of early Christian thought.” The Incarnation of the Son of God fulfilled God’s original dream of uniting himself to humanity to acquire a bride and co-ruler. But it’s clear from the Christus Victor motif we’ve just examined that, because of our rebellion, the Incarnation also involved a rescue mission that included a strategy for vanquishing the powers of darkness. Image by Lawrence OP via Flickr.
GayatfootofCross Posted July 31, 2015 Author Posted July 31, 2015 If We as Christians think something other than Jesus is showing. The Religion is worth nothing! Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
hch Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 If We as Christians think something other than Jesus is showing. The Religion is worth nothing! Since Jesus does not contradict the word of God, He is worthy of emulating. Quote His child Henry Bible student/Author https://www.loudcry101.com
pnattmbtc Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Great OP. Do you know the book, "A More Christ-like View of God"? GayatfootofCross 1 Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
pnattmbtc Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I see that Benjamin Corley wrote a book. I got his book based on the OP here. The book is called "Undiluted: Rediscovering the Radical Message of Jesus". I'm looking forward to reading it. GayatfootofCross and Gail 2 Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
GayatfootofCross Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Great OP. Do you know the book, "A More Christ-like View of God"? Hi ! I haven't heard of either book. I am glad you looked in to it. 'Servant God' is a book i recommend. Many Christians don't realize aspects of what Love actually looks like and do. This book shines a light on this kind of God. This is powerful! GBU! Why are these thoughts of God come from a more LIBERAL CHRISTIAN Ideology? I can not tell you how many times I have watched the old guard's, at Church, eyes glaze over when a new excited on Fire Christian talk about Love. I have chuckled instead of weeping. Edited August 5, 2015 by GayatfootofCross Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
LifeHiscost Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 I have found my tail doesn't get bent out of shape so much when I realize God hasn't called me to judge people (His job) but to love them. And when I judge others, I am actually judging our Creator. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another....John 13 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.....Matthew 25 22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son....John 5 10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.....Romans 14 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.....2 Corinthians 5 In the cleansing blood of Jesus alone have any, hope for the future. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin....1 John 1 [Full Chapter] God is Love! Jesus saves! Quote Lift Jesus up!!
pnattmbtc Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I have found my tail doesn't get bent out of shape so much when I realize God hasn't called me to judge people (His job) but to love them. And when I judge others, I am actually judging our Creator. There's a good book on this theme. It's called "Repenting of Religion" by Greg Boyd, and was inspired by Bonhoeffer's "Ethics" (which I haven't read). Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
GayatfootofCross Posted August 17, 2015 Author Posted August 17, 2015 It bears repeating: God cares more how we treat each other than the rightness of our Theology! If your God image is not aligned with that very thought I have three words! RUN FOREST RUN! Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
GayatfootofCross Posted August 18, 2015 Author Posted August 18, 2015 There's a good book on this theme. It's called "Repenting of Religion" by Greg Boyd, and was inspired by Bonhoeffer's "Ethics" (which I haven't read). Have you seen his sermon? Sociopathic Religion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3sZr8IWbKs Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
pnattmbtc Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 No, I hadn't seen it (until now; I watched it). A couple of things I particularly noted: 1.Every act of withholding love is rebellion against God. 2.Jesus came not for a good looking bride, but for a real bride. Thanks for the link! GayatfootofCross 1 Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
GayatfootofCross Posted August 19, 2015 Author Posted August 19, 2015 This guy has so many wonderful pictures of God! Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
pnattmbtc Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 I agree. I have quite a few of his books. In one of the books, I think the one we have been discussing, he says something like, "All that we can know about God was revealed by Jesus Christ," which Ellen White wrote a long time ago, almost word for word. So the ideas have been there (theres a great article ST Jan. 1990 as I recall, "God manifest in the Flesh" I think is the name which discusses this idea in detail), but we have chosen to emphasize other issues as opposed to God's love and character revealed in Christ. Ty Gibson does a nice job emphasizing this theme. GayatfootofCross 1 Quote Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.