whbae Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Now that the World Church has made plain what it believes Scripture says about making women rulers over men, what will the General Conference do about the divisions, unions, and conferences in rebellion? Then above statement was made in a SDA internet. Does this mean that ordination is equal to rulership? Is the pastor a ruler over the congregation? Kevin H 1 Quote
Moderators Kevin H Posted September 8, 2015 Moderators Posted September 8, 2015 Of course not, but this is what they are trying to push... Quote
Administrators debbym Posted September 12, 2015 Administrators Posted September 12, 2015 i guess you can find anything on the internet. Quote deb Love awakens love. Let God be true and every man a liar.
Gustave Posted September 4, 2025 Posted September 4, 2025 Once you step outside Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant (aka Reformation) Churches all bets are off - most if not all "Restorationist" Churches did / do not require the education a Lutheran, etc. would be required to go through before becoming ordained clergy. For instance, in the early SDA Church one only needed to believe in creature-christ and a few other pillars and one could be a "minister". Quote
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted September 4, 2025 Moderators Posted September 4, 2025 In the early days of Adventism, ordination came to people who were spiritual leaders. Little else was required. However, my friend Gustave, has oversimplified it. He suggests that a requirement was to believe in a "creature Christ." I am surprised at this, as I have typically considered him to be better informed than his statement represented. In fact, I think that he is better informed and has simply resorted to some over statement. As the Seventh-day Adventist Church began to develop as a separate denomination, it held a series of so-called "Sabbath Conferences," which were held on the Sabbath. Those conferences resulted in a statement on the following five areas of belief (Not listed in order of priority.): * Sabbath: * Second Advent: * Spirit of Prophecy: * State of the Dead or Soul Sleep: * Sanctuary: You will note that the above listing was distinctive. It did not deal with foundational issues of Christianity, such as salvation, Christ and the nature of Christ. In the early days, those who later became SDA all came from denominational backgrounds. All were accepted, and thought to have a common agreement of the basics. In actual fact, such was not true. Ellen white came from a Methodist background. Her husband came from the "Christian Connection (CC)" background. The CC group was common in those early days. It no longer exists today in any organized sense. Those of CC background believed in a Christ that was clearly not orthodox. In any case, in those earliest days, the nature of Christ was not of major concern to those developing Adventists. So, I differ with my friend, Gustave, on what I consider to be an overstatement of his. phkrause 1 Quote Gregory
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