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When controversy erupted at the heart of the universe, it involved crucial questions about the family of heaven: Is God the Father unjust and arbitrary, or accessible and embracing? Is God the Son conceited and elevated, or humbly condescending? To this day human beings have still not quite clarified these questions; and thus most in the world still do not know for sure what God is really like.

http://www.adventistreview.org/1503-18

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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Fantastic!

Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.

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When controversy erupted at the heart of the universe, it involved crucial questions about the family of heaven: Is God the Father unjust and arbitrary, or accessible and embracing? Is God the Son conceited and elevated, or humbly condescending? To this day human beings have still not quite clarified these questions; and thus most in the world still do not know for sure what God is really like.

http://www.adventistreview.org/1503-18

If there was one group who knew what God and heaven was like, it has to have been the angels.  These created beings were there in heaven every day from the time they were created, watching God at work.  

Yet Lucifer/Satan managed to persuade 1/3(?) of them to rebel.  

The point being that God is not everyone's cup of tea.

That is why nobody (man or angel) will be in His kingdom against their will.

God is there for those who want Him.

And nobody will be in His kingdom "doing their own thing".

Thus God is "accessible and embracing" of sheep, but not goats.

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The answer in the Word seems pretty clear to me.

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When controversy erupted at the heart of the universe, it involved crucial questions about the family of heaven: Is God the Father unjust and arbitrary, or accessible and embracing? Is God the Son conceited and elevated, or humbly condescending? To this day human beings have still not quite clarified these questions; and thus most in the world still do not know for sure what God is really like.

http://www.adventistreview.org/1503-18

Really EXCELLENT article.  Thanks

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IF the rebellion had never happened, so long ago in Heaven, would the family of God truly KNOW the depth of the Father's love?  The often quoted, God "works everything for good, to those who love God", comes to mind.  God has "worked" even the rebellion of Satan, "for good".   BECAUSE of God's response to Satan's rebellion, the redeemed family of God will praise HIM with a depth of love, they could never have known, without that revelation

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IF the rebellion had never happened, so long ago in Heaven, would the family of God truly KNOW the depth of the Father's love?  The often quoted, God "works everything for good, to those who love God", comes to mind.  God has "worked" even the rebellion of Satan, "for good".   BECAUSE of God's response to Satan's rebellion, the redeemed family of God will praise HIM with a depth of love, they could never have known, without that revelation

Yes, I think so.  I don't believe agape is dependent upon sin in order to manifest itself.

Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God.

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