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Friday, September 25, 2015

Loving The Wrong People?

 
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Jesus was always loving the wrong people. It’s what set him apart from everyone else around him.

Jesus loved the lepers, and the lame. He loved the broken, and the brokenhearted.

Jesus loved those who were poor, despised, rejected and cast out.

 

He loved Samaritans, and Pagans. He loved prostitutes. He loved drunkards.

He loved people who loved to party, and he felt right at home in the midst of those who were called “sinners” by the religious elite.

Jesus loved all the wrong people, and he suffered abuse for it.
 

He was called “a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners”. [Matt. 11:19]

When they called him a “friend of sinners” it was not as a compliment, but as a rebuke.

He loved the unlovely. He even loved his enemies.
 
Simply put, Jesus loved people. He loved all sorts of people. But most of all, he loved the wrong people. He loved all of the people that we find it most difficult to love.

How many of us would be called the friend of a whore? How many of us would invite a homeless man into our home to share a meal? How many of us would take a meth addict who lives in his van out to dinner? How many of us would be willing to love the wrong people the way Jesus did?

Are we willing to love people who are living in sin? Can we love people outside our faith community? Are we open to loving someone with a different sexual orientation? Can we love those who disagree with us politically, doctrinally, morally?

The truth is, Jesus still loves all the wrong people. He loves them with an unending love and he wants you and I to love them, too.

Jesus loves all the people we hate. But we shouldn’t hate anyone.
As people who have been touched by his love, we need to be changed by his love into people who can love like he loves.
 
“Whoever claims to live in Him must walk as Jesus did.” [1 John 2:6]


If Jesus loves all the wrong people, it’s time for us to love them, too.

-kg

 

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If u meet Christians that don't love on others who are not like them

u can be sure they haven't Let JESUS love on themselves :(

John 13:34-35Jubilee Bible 2000

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall everyone know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Edited by GayatfootofCross

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

 

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

Posted

Wow...I would have expected a comment or two by this time.

I recently heard of a story where a 'good catholic girl' (20 yrs old) fell in love with a young Muslim man she met at college, began studying Arabic and had converted to Islam. The older brother called the girl a whore.

The girl died and neither young person was able to make that commitment.

But there was deep love and both were willing to sacrifice for one another. However, the older brother and the girl's father were unable/unwilling to accept such a relationship. And both were deeply committed to their 'family faith'.

I think of the religious leaders that accused Jesus of what they looked down on...all the exterior stuff. Jesus looked upon the hearts of all. If we are to have the heart of Jesus, if we are His followers, should we NOT focus on the exterior?

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Nadia Bolz-Weber is baffled by how churches became so squeaky clean

 

 

CHICAGO — It’s Monday evening in September, and Nadia Bolz-Weber admits to feeling “low-key” as she unwraps a cough drop in the lobby of her hotel. The Lutheran pastor is scheduled to speak that evening — the sixth city she’s visited in seven nights on her book tour for “Accidental Saints: Finding God in All the Wrong People,” released in September.

And that’s not counting church the day before.

Hours later, though, she is energetically lofting a ham over her head in the city’s stately Fourth Presbyterian Church and proclaiming in language as colorful as her tattoos, “That is a big-a– ham.”

The ham is for a raffle to benefit several of the church’s ministries, the kind of unexpected move that has become the norm for Bolz-Weber, former stand-up comic and alcoholic, current CrossFit devotee and Lutheran pastor.

Close-cropped hair and sleeveless shirt showing off her tattoos that show the church year? Check. An open door to the drag queens, the addicted and the others who feel out of place at church? Check. Love for ancient liturgy and Lutheran theology? Check.

The combination is at least a good chunk of what has made her a popular speaker since her memoir, “Pastrix: The Cranky, Beautiful Faith of a Sinner & Saint,” hit bestseller lists in 2013.

[Bolz-Weber’s liberal, foulmouthed articulation of Christianity speaks to fed-up believers]

In “Accidental Saints” — which, she joked, her publisher wouldn’t let her title “Purpose-driven Sinners” — she shares the stories of the saints with whom she lives and worships: the awkward parishioner with the bad breath and baggy pants she avoided at her church, the pink-haired teenager she sat beside on a plane ride to a Lutheran youth gathering, the bishop she pastored through the death of his wife who later drove drunk and killed a woman.

The stories Bolz-Weber shares are the stories of the saints that remind her of the people with whom Jesus surrounded himself, she said.

“It’s a pretty rugged crew — like, how Christianity became quite so squeaky-clean is beyond me when its origins weren’t even close to that,” she said.

They’re the stories of the saints she said she finds useful, not the gilded images of people “just inches away from God themselves” on holy cards or in Butler’s “Lives of the Saints.”

“I’m so hopelessly far from that, I don’t find hope in that,” she said. “To be given ways to see how God gets redemptive things done through broken people, that is helpful, because I feel like I’m surrounded by that.”

And, Bolz-Weber said, “I do admit some fairly horrible things about myself.”

Like how she dodged that parishioner with the bad breath — left him off the e-mail list for the church retreat and declined to officiate his wedding. After he died from a brain tumor, she was reminded of how undeserved God’s grace is and that, she writes, “sometimes God needs some stuff done, even though I can be a real a–hole.”

Still, life has changed in the two years since “Pastrix” was published and Bolz-Weber began to get national attention.

There are more demands on her time, she said, and she’s moved from pastor into the role of public theologian, spending more of her time writing, traveling and speaking. She now works part-time at House for All Sinners and Saints, the liturgical, inclusive and irreverent church of more than 250 people she founded in 2008 in Denver.

She loves her church too much to let it suffer from “founder’s syndrome,” she said, saying that the founder rarely is the right person to maintain an organization. The Rev. Reagan Humber, who joined the church this year, is the right person to pastor the Denver church, though, and, she said, “I guess since he’s gay, it’s okay for me to say I’m completely in love with him.”

In her new book, she writes that she wondered why the church attracts so many “losers” and not more “cool” people like her — until she realized it was attracting people exactly like her, the parts of her she wanted to “push down, compensate for and cover up.”

About 400 of those people filled the pews on a September evening at Fourth Presbyterian.

There was the white-haired parishioner who spun in her pew, showing off the raffle prize she’d won at the event: a Christmas ornament with an image of Santa Claus kneeling beside baby Jesus in the manger that Bolz-Weber had written about hating. There were baby-wearing moms and bearded men with tattoos on their arms and gauges in the ears.

There was a large group of first-year students from the Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago on the city’s South Side, including Angela Remmers, who said she has been shamed for being gay and shamed for being Christian. Bolz-Weber’s openness has “helped me increasingly be open,” she said.

Remmers’s classmate Troy Medlin, who was raised in a conservative evangelical Christian church, said he resonated with the image of “accidental saints,” having met and been changed by a few himself.

“It’s not ideas that change you but these flesh-and-blood encounters with real people,” Medlin said.

Bolz-Weber said she hopes those horrible stories about herself create a space for people to step into and see themselves. She hopes they’ll recognize themselves in the things she’s said and done and thought and find the same hope and grace she has.

It’s a form of leadership she says she calls “screw it, I’ll go first.”

But she knows people won’t always be listening to her stories.

That’s one reason she and popular blogger and author Rachel Held Evans organized the Why Christian? Conference last month in Minneapolis. The two chose 11 speakers, all women whose voices they wanted to amplify, to “stack the deck for who they will listen to next.”

A second conference is planned next year at Fourth Presbyterian.

Bolz-Weber knows the story of Christianity, of all its crimes and misdemeanors, she said. Still, she said, “So many of us still have skin in the game.” She wanted to know why. And she wants to hear those stories from those accidental saints like the ones she reads about in the Bible.

“Jesus never scanned the room for whoever was the most clean-cut and never used any swear words and never made mistakes and understood everything perfectly and lived a sanctified life and then He sent them to do his work,” she said. “He always used the scoundrels and the broken people and the demoniacs, you know what I mean?”

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

 

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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I have heard of Nadia... But as I don't like foul mouths I stumble at some of the things she says.

However- as I read through the OP I wondered if there is often a selfish aspect to our love. That is, whether we love those most able to give us something I return, even like acknowledgement or appreciation. Just a thought.

The picture that Isaiah 53 gives us is of One who was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our iniquities. Even though we may have stayed away from crystal meth, Jesus took on that sin on the cross as well. He was despised and he was afflicted. For his efforts he got rejection. But that is what his love entails. 

I have got a LONG way to go!

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Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

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