Stan Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Here is how English has changed over the past 1000 years. Which english would do you like to read? Kevin H 1 Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Green Cochoa Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I'll take the 1611, thank you. Despite its older vernacular, it is still simply the most reliable translation in English. Quote
Moderators Kevin H Posted March 27, 2016 Moderators Posted March 27, 2016 Just learned something interesting; The manuscript that the KJV came from were made by Sunday-keepers, while the texts that the KJV only people criticize was made by Christians who were still keeping the Sabbath. Kevin(wrx) and Gail 2 Quote
Green Cochoa Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Kevin H said: Just learned something interesting; The manuscript that the KJV came from were made by Sunday-keepers, while the texts that the KJV only people criticize was made by Christians who were still keeping the Sabbath. I don't know where you get your "facts" on that from. Naturally, at the time the KJV translation was made, virtually ALL Christians were Sunday keepers, having been a thousand years under the papal religion. You haven't even mentioned any texts, so that's a rather broad-brushed way of addressing the issue. The style of the comment seems fishy, as in someone has an agenda and may be reading only the data that support his or her view. Source? Quote
Ellen Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) It doesn't matter whether they were sabbath-keepers or not, what matters if they were scholars and were true to the original. The Holy Spirit was also present with the committees why translated each bible into each language. However, I don't believe KJV translaters were all keeping sabbath. I have just misplaced, (lost?) my new living translation and it is like a friend is missing. I thought I had left it at church, but it wasn't there, so I checked my car and my husband's car and my house again. Where cold it be? I know you can't find it for me. I have a couple other places to check out. If it has been taken maybe they need it more than I do ? ! ? Edited March 27, 2016 by Ellen spelling error Quote
Moderators Jeannieb43 Posted March 28, 2016 Moderators Posted March 28, 2016 9 hours ago, Ellen said: It doesn't matter whether they were sabbath-keepers or not, what matters if they were scholars and were true to the original. The Holy Spirit was also present with the committees why translated each bible into each language. However, I don't believe KJV translaters were all keeping sabbath. I have just misplaced, (lost?) my new living translation and it is like a friend is missing. I thought I had left it at church, but it wasn't there, so I checked my car and my husband's car and my house again. Where cold it be? I know you can't find it for me. I have a couple other places to check out. If it has been taken maybe they need it more than I do ? ! ? Glad to hear someone else who likes the New Living Translation. That's the version I'm using in reading the Bible through this year. I have lots of other versions, and I like comparing them when studying. I love our Bible; it's God's gift to us to take us through these troublous times. Stan, Gail and phkrause 3 Quote Jeannie<br /><br /><br />...Change is inevitable; growth is optional....
Moderators Kevin H Posted March 28, 2016 Moderators Posted March 28, 2016 On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 0:52 PM, Green Cochoa said: I don't know where you get your "facts" on that from. Naturally, at the time the KJV translation was made, virtually ALL Christians were Sunday keepers, having been a thousand years under the papal religion. You haven't even mentioned any texts, so that's a rather broad-brushed way of addressing the issue. The style of the comment seems fishy, as in someone has an agenda and may be reading only the data that support his or her view. Source? First of all your comment is confused. Yes, by the time of the KJV most Christians were Sunday Keepers. However we are talking about the ancient manuscripts that the KJV translators used and the manuscripts used by say the Revised Standard Version and other translations that Elder Wilkinson, and others who support the KJV only, criticizes. What we have since learned, which was not known in Wilkinson's time, about the creation of those ancient manuscripts is that the KJV translators used manuscripts that were made by groups who had very quickly given up the Sabbath for Sunday. And the creators of the manuscripts that Wilkinson is upset about and that the KJV only people are upset about was created by ancient Christians who at the time of the creation of those manuscripts were still keeping the Seventh-day Sabbath. The reference where this was pointed out is: George E. Rice PhD. Contemporary Issues in Prophetic Guidance Volume 1 Sponsored by the E. G. White Estate, sold by American Christian Ministries http://americanchristianministries.org/index.php/prophetic-guidance-contemporary-issues-cds-21087.html I hope this is useful. I have to admit I am feeling bad now because while I can't think of any other way of wording this, yet I feel like giving a strong reference like this is something that comes on too strong and it is causing a pain in my heart that this may hurt some people's understandings and beliefs. . I want to apologize for my critical spirit. Please keep me in your prayers. phkrause, Stan and Gail 3 Quote
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