Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted April 3, 2016 Moderators Posted April 3, 2016 See: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/april-web-only/religion-of-ted-cruz.html?utm_source=ctweekly-html&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_term=16245031&utm_content=427092691&utm_campaign=email Quote Gregory
Aliensanctuary Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 Not exactly a pro-Cruz article. To promote Christian values, that is, the teachings of Christ, would be a noble cause in a nation in decline. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
GayatfootofCross Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 20 hours ago, Aliensanctuary said: Not exactly a pro-Cruz article. To promote Christian values, that is, the teachings of Christ, would be a noble cause in a nation in decline. Amen! Matt 20: 25-28 “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. 26 It shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant,[c] 27 and whoever would be first among you must be your slave,[d] 28 even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” Matt 5:45 ..In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. Luke 26:27-31 “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. 29 To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic[b] either. 30 Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. 31 And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. imagine all the souls won over Quote For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for You to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️? " If you tarry 'til you're better You will never come at all " .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved Glen Campbell If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. "My bounty is as boundless as the sea, My love as deep; the more I give to thee, The more I have, for both are infinite." Romeo and Juliet
joeb Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 I don't see much in that article about Cruz's theology so both the article and the title of this thread are misleading. I don't see how Cruz's desire to return this nation to it's Judeo-Christian roots is a negative. If you people will actually read some real history and the writings of the founders of this nation you will see the founders truly believed in God. You would also find out that many of them that are portrayed as secularists actually lived by Christian principles and regularly invited God into their political meetings. What follows is something Ben Franklin said at the Constitutional Convention when it looked like the process was going to break down and all the colonies splinter into nothing more than individual states. Quote Mr. President: The small progress we have made after 4 or five weeks close attendance & continual reasonings with each other -- our different sentiments on almost every question, several of the last producing as many noes as ays, is methinks a melancholy proof of the imperfection of the Human Understanding. We indeed seem to feel our own wont of political wisdom, since we have been running about in search of it. We have gone back to ancient history for models of government, and examined the different forms of those Republics which having been formed with the seeds of their own dissolution now no longer exist. And we have viewed Modern States all round Europe, but find none of their Constitutions suitable to our circumstances. In this situation of this Assembly groping as it were in the dark to find political truth, and scarce able to distinguish it when to us, how has it happened, Sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights to illuminate our understandings? In the beginning of the contest with G. Britain, when we were sensible of danger we had daily prayer in this room for the Divine Protection. -- Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a Superintending providence in our favor. To that kind providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? Or do we imagine that we no longer need His assistance. I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth -- that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings that "except the Lord build they labor in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall be become a reproach and a bye word down to future age. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments by Human Wisdom, and leave it to chance, war, and conquest. I therefore beg leave to move -- that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the Clergy of this City be requested to officiate in that service. There is Ben Franklin acknowledging God's hand in the creation of this country and acknowledging the need of it's leadership for God's input and leading. In today's politics the Democrats, including the Democrats on this site, would crucify him for desiring God's blessing and leadership. The screams of "separation of church and state" would be deafening.... The lack of understanding of how our founders thought and what they meant by the things they said is frightening because when we forget/abandon our history we have no idea as to who we are and where we should be going. Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville
joeb Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Also, Thomas Jefferson, the author of the famous wall between church and state started a non-denominational church that met in the building that housed the House of Representatives. That church existed throughout his administration and the administration of James Madison who followed him as President. When Jefferson wrote his famous letter he wrote it while attending church in a state building. What does that say about his beliefs on separation of church and state, and Madison's? It says they opposed the state forcing people to worship one way or another. They would turn over in their graves to see how what they said and thought has been perverted into something they never imagined. Quote Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.Alexis de Tocqueville
Aliensanctuary Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 Seems like the original intent of our Founding Fathers was to prevent the creation of a national church that dictated the laws of the land and ran or controlled the government, as happens in un-free countries, Iran, for example. In religion-controlled government, dissent or different religious beliefs tend to be not tolerated, resulting in persecution and abuse of basic human rights. I don't believe the Founding Fathers intended to ban all religious expression or the practice of Christian principles by individuals as long as their practices did not conflict with the safety or well-being of others. We all pay the price for the removal of the moral code that once guided our nation. With no guidance from our Creator, the whole world is being sucked down into the vortex of rebellion, and ultimately, destruction. Ted Cruz's personal religious beliefs are his own business and not the press's business to pick apart in order to diminish him. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted April 8, 2016 Author Moderators Posted April 8, 2016 Ted Cruz's personal religious beliefs are his own business and not the press's business to pick apart in order to diminish him. They are of interest to all to the extent that they might influence his legislation. GayatfootofCross and phkrause 2 Quote Gregory
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