Robert Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 2 Thess 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it (context: the 2nd coming of Christ - see verse 1) will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Quote
Robert Posted April 5, 2016 Author Posted April 5, 2016 Perhaps we should look into some clues: Revelation 11:19 says "In heaven the temple of God was opened and the Ark of His covenant could be seen inside the Temple." Quote
Robert Posted April 5, 2016 Author Posted April 5, 2016 Dan 8:11 He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily was taken away, and the place of His sanctuary (the temple of God) was cast down. Quote
TrevorL Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Greetings Robert, 18 hours ago, Robert said: 2 Thess 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it (context: the 2nd coming of Christ - see verse 1) will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. The Man of Sin is the Papacy. His temple is in Rome. One of the names of blasphemy that is appropriated is "the holy father". 7 hours ago, Robert said: Dan 8:11 He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily was taken away, and the place of His sanctuary (the temple of God) was cast down. You should be looking at Daniel 7, the western part of the Roman Empire, mainly religious when it is speaking of the little horn of the fourth beast, rather than looking at Daniel 8, the eastern part of the Roman Empire, speaking mainly of the military aspect. Kind regards Trevor Quote
JoeMo Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 9 hours ago, TrevorL said: The Man of Sin is the Papacy. His temple is in Rome. One of the names of blasphemy that is appropriated is "the holy father". That is a view. Another view is that the man of sin is the AntiChrist (possibly the papacy; but probably not); and the Temple of God could be a 3rd Temple to be built in Jerusalem during the time of the end (70th week of Daniel). I know this doesn't "mesh" with EGW; but it meshes with a literal translation of the Word. Quote
Robert Posted April 6, 2016 Author Posted April 6, 2016 11 hours ago, TrevorL said: The Man of Sin is the Papacy. His temple is in Rome.... I'm not a fan of the Papacy, but to be fair to the context it says " he (the man of sin) takes his seat in the temple of God". While St. Peter Basilica is magnificent it is not "God's temple". Neither is Paul speaking about our bodies being the temple of God (see 1 Cor 6:19) in the context of 2 Thess 2:4. So "the man of sin" either literally sits in God's temple (which is in heaven) or he sits figuratively in God's temple. Quote
JoeMo Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 4 hours ago, Robert said: So "the man of sin" either literally sits in God's temple (which is in heaven) or he sits figuratively in God's temple ... ... or he sits in a 3rd Jerusalem Temple (let's call it the Tribulation Temple) during the 1260 days ... I sincerely doubt that the "man" (not spirit) of sin will sit in the Temple in heaven. Nobody ever sits there but God. If you want to get technical, I guess Jesus (who is God) is also a man; and He can sit there. Quote
Robert Posted April 7, 2016 Author Posted April 7, 2016 Heb 8:1 We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a Minister of the sanctuary and of the true temple which the Lord erected, and not man. No, this temple is in heaven. It is nothing man erected. Therefore "the man of sin" figuratively sits in the temple of God. Quote
Members phkrause Posted April 7, 2016 Members Posted April 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, Robert said: Therefore "the man of sin" figuratively sits in the temple of God. I agree Robert 1 Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Robert Posted April 7, 2016 Author Posted April 7, 2016 8 hours ago, Robert said: Heb 8:1 We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a Minister of the sanctuary and of the true temple which the Lord erected, and not man. No, this temple is in heaven. It is nothing man erected. Therefore "the man of sin" figuratively sits in the temple of God. Again, 2 Thess 2:3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it (context: the 2nd coming of Christ - see verse 1) will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. The "man of sin": 1] Exalts himself. We saw this in Dan 8:11: "He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host (Christ)" 2] He figuratively takes the place of Christ in His temple. Q1: What is Christ, our Great High Priest doing in heaven, now? Answer: Let me quote Ellen White then I'll get it from the Bible, the final authority: "Jesus stands in the holy of holies (God's temple), now to appear in the presence of God for us. There He ceases not to present His people moment by moment, complete in Himself." Now the Bible: Heb 10:19 "Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus (i.e., His life laid down in death), 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh...." Through the humanity of Christ we have been perfected. In Him we stand complete (Col 1:22). Apparently "the man of sin" believes that he can forgive sin. Apparently he believes that he is Christ's substitute on earth. phkrause 1 Quote
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