Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted May 30, 2016 Moderators Posted May 30, 2016 Some people here use the word "Yeshua" in referring to Jesus when posting here. Some may wonder why they do not use the name "Jesus." Actually both are connect. Yeshua is derived from the Hebrew while Jesus is derived from the Greek. Either can be correctly used. Although some will say that one should use the word derived on the Hebrew. But, remember, Greek was the written language of the NT. For more on this see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua Kevin H 1 Quote Gregory
Moderators Kevin H Posted May 31, 2016 Moderators Posted May 31, 2016 Too many people look for righteousness through vocabulary. Jesus wants us to pray the same types of prayers that Yeshua would pray, even if we never heard either name. phkrause, rudywoofs (Pam) and Gail 3 Quote
Jessie-Jess Posted May 31, 2016 Posted May 31, 2016 I find that in some contexts and with some uses, the Hebrew rendition of His name flows better, but the greek rendition sounds better in others, which is one reason why you may see both renditions in the same article. bonnie 1 Quote
Aliensanctuary Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 Jesus is actually a mispronunciation of the Greek word, which sounds something like: ee-ay-SOOCE. There never was anyone ever named Jesus, as we all mispronounce it. I prefer using Yeshua, but usually write Jesus or Christ in my posts here. Someday I hope someone publishes a bible with the correct Hebrew and Greek proper names. Ron Amnsn 1 Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
Administrators Gail Posted June 1, 2016 Administrators Posted June 1, 2016 There is already such a Bible. The Messianic Jewish Shared Heritage Bible and the One New Man Bible (Morford) are two that I have at hand. I suspect there are others. Aliensanctuary 1 Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted June 1, 2016 Author Moderators Posted June 1, 2016 Quote There never was anyone ever named Jesus, A rather bold statement. It may be hard to prove a negative. Are you telling us that in modern times, no one has ever been names Jesus? Here are just a few modern people named Jesus. http://www.famousbirthdays.com/names/jesus.html Quote Gregory
Outta Here Posted June 1, 2016 Posted June 1, 2016 ::rollseyes:: I'm pretty sure everyone reading knew what he meant... Kevin(wrx) 1 Quote
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted June 2, 2016 Members Posted June 2, 2016 8 hours ago, Gregory Matthews said: A rather bold statement. It may be hard to prove a negative. Are you telling us that in modern times, no one has ever been names Jesus? Here are just a few modern people named Jesus. http://www.famousbirthdays.com/names/jesus.html lol... reminds me of my first job as a receptionist in the early 1970s at the largest plant nursery in the Pacific Northwest. I was on the phone and the CEO gave me a note that said "Page Jesus Garcia for me"... So, of course, when I got off the phone, I turned on the paging system that could be heard over the entire acreage of the nursery, as well as the surrounding neighborhoods, and said (in the English version): "Jesus! Jesus Garcia! Please call the office at once!" Immediately, I heard laughing coming from the offices behind me. Kevin H, Outta Here and Gail 3 Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?
pierrepaul Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 I am reminded of a Sabbath School class (in English). We were discussing the sacredness of the names of God. The teacher stated that the name "Jesus" is sacred and that is why we don't name our sons "Jesus". He then said that there was a Mexican fellow at his work whose name was spelled J-E-S-U-S, but so as not to disrespect the name of Jesus, he pronounced it "Hay-zoose". The teacher appeared to be serious, so I just held my tongue. Quote God never said "Thou shalt not think".
Administrators Gail Posted June 2, 2016 Administrators Posted June 2, 2016 He likely pronounced it, Hay-zoose, because that is how it sounds in Spanish. Has nothing to do with respect. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
pierrepaul Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 Of course - I just thought that the teacher's explanation was unintentionally humourous. What made it even funnier is that I was the only one in the class who spoke Spanish (it was in a small town about 25 years ago, where there were very few non-English speakers), and half the class nodded approvingly at the teacher's explanation. Quote God never said "Thou shalt not think".
Administrators Gail Posted June 2, 2016 Administrators Posted June 2, 2016 Kinda scary... One should be able to trust the teacher Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Stan Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 I have come across people that strongly believe that unless you call the name of the saviour with a broken hebrew accent, he can not hear you or answer your prayers.. I kid you not. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com
Administrators Gail Posted June 2, 2016 Administrators Posted June 2, 2016 If Jesus' name is so disputed, what about YHWH? That was the name that people in the past did not want to pronounce altogether Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
Unchained Posted June 4, 2016 Posted June 4, 2016 Was his name originally pronounced "Yeshua", "Yeshu" or "Yehoshua"? We cannot know for sure, so I don't believe this is important at all. (Likewise, there is even more uncertainty related to the original pronunciation of YHWH.) I believe we can pray to Jesus and God in every language or accent, and our prayers will be heard. Those who insist that this is a big deal often have some kind of hidden agenda... Quote
8thdaypriest Posted June 4, 2016 Posted June 4, 2016 I was glad they used the name Yeshua in the movie "Risen". I liked the movie. It wasn't pretending to be strictly Biblical, but it really did take one back to that time, and the likely reaction of the Romans - searching the city for "the body". Gail 1 Quote 8thdaypriest
Aliensanctuary Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Quote The Messianic Jewish Shared Heritage Bible and the One New Man Bible... Will check those out when I have more time. TNX Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
Aliensanctuary Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Quote The Messianic Jewish Shared Heritage Bible and the One New Man Bible... Read a number of reviews of these two bibles, but the one more like I want is the Hebrew Name Bible. Unfortunately, the HNB uses the words, God, LORD, and Lord instead of the original Hebrew words. I may just mark my bible with the transliterations of proper nouns that interest me. Quote ...searching the city for "the body". Secular scientists claim that resurrecting human beings is impossible, but there is technology that they can't even imagine that makes this impossible feat possible. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
Members phkrause Posted June 8, 2016 Members Posted June 8, 2016 16 hours ago, Aliensanctuary said: Read a number of reviews of these two bibles, but the one more like I want is the Hebrew Name Bible. Unfortunately, the HNB uses the words, God, LORD, and Lord instead of the original Hebrew words. I may just mark my bible with the transliterations of proper nouns that interest me. Have you tried reading the CJB? Quote phkrause When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
Aliensanctuary Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 I have CJB. Not very many proper nouns in Hebrew. Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451
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