The Death Decree

[Buzzards]

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Rev.13:15  And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast,

that the image of the beast should both speak,

and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed

Editting;

I can't get it formatted correctly, so let me have time to correct before anyone replies

Tkx

 

 

 

[Buzzards]

"According to civil law criminals convicted of treason are punished with death and their goods are confiscated.
With how much more reason then should they who offend Jesus, Son of the Lord God, by deserting their faith,\
be cut off from the Christian communion and stripped of their goods." -
Innocent III, quoted by Canon E. Vacanard in, L'inquisition, Paris, 1907

We excommunicate and anathematize every heresy that raises against the holy, orthodox and Catholic faith which we have above explained;
condemning all heretics under whatever names they may be known . . .
Secular authorities, whatever office they may hold, shall be admonished and induced and if necessary compelled by ecclesiastical censure,
that as they wish to be esteemed and numbered among the faithful,
so for the defense of the faith, they ought publicly to take an oath that they will
strive in good faith and to the best of their ability to exterminate in the territories subject to their jurisdiction
all heretics pointed out by the Church; so that whenever anyone shall have assumed authority,
whether spiritual or temporal, let him be bound to confirm this decree by oath
(The Canons of the IV Lateran Council, 1215), Canon 3

So if an earthly ruler of sorts wanted or wished to be a
"Good little "Saint" and Boot Licker of the Beast" as stated;

"that as they wish to be esteemed and numbered among the faithful,"

so for the defense of the faith
they ought publicly to take an oath that they will strive in good faith and to the best of their ability to
exterminate in the territories subject to their jurisdiction all heretics pointed out by the Church;
they; shall we use their own words
they shall be

"induced and if necessary compelled by ecclesiastical censure"

 

David asks a question
Psalms 94:20

Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee,
which frameth mischief by a law?
21 They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous,
and condemn the innocent blood.
22 But the LORD is my defence;
and my God is the rock of my refuge.

now David says this will happen to them that;
gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous,
and condemn the innocent blood.

23 And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity,
and shall cut them off in their own wickedness;
yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.

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The Throne of Iniquity

2Thes.2:7

For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:..

Now lets let Scripture speak for its self,
Do we have, in scripture, an example of this ????
Yes we do, its found in the book of Esther

Now; I am not going to post large amounts of scripture,
this post would just get too looooooong,
hopefully, those reading are familiar with the story,
for those that are not
lets get the context

Jerusalem had been destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon,
the City, the wall and the Temple, had been destroyed,
and lay in ruins
Jeremiah had prophesied of 70 years of captivity
and then God would release them so they could
return and rebuild Jerusalem

Daniel and the three Hebrew children had went thru
the "Firey Furnace" and the "Lions Den"

Babylon had fallen to the Meades and the Persians,
and Cyrus had issued a proclamation that
all the Jews that wanted to of their own free will,
could return home, and rebuild Jerusalem
Hey; he would even help finance it out of his treasury
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Ezra 1:1

Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia,
that the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled,
the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia,
that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom,
and put it also in writing, saying,
Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia,

The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth;
and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.
Who is there among you of all his people? his God be with him,
and let him go up to Jerusalem, which is in Judah,
and build the house of the LORD God of Israel,
(he is the God,) which is in Jerusalem.
And whosoever remaineth in any place where he sojourneth,
let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold,
and with goods, and with beasts,
beside the freewill offering for the house of God that is in Jerusalem.

Hey, he even said he would help pay for it
 

7 Also Cyrus the king brought forth the vessels of the house of the LORD,
which Nebuchadnezzar had brought forth out of Jerusalem,
and had put them in the house of his gods;

8 Even those did Cyrus king of Persia bring forth by the hand of Mithredath the treasurer,
and numbered them unto Sheshbazzar, the prince of Judah.
And this is the number of them:

thirty chargers of gold, a thousand chargers of silver, nine and twenty knives,
Thirty basons of gold, silver basons of a second sort four hundred and ten,
and other vessels a thousand.
All the vessels of gold and of silver were five thousand and four hundred.
All these did Sheshbazzar bring up with them of the captivity
that were brought up from Babylon unto Jerusalem
The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.

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it was reaffirmed by Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia.
The Jews were scattered all thru the kingdom of Ahasuerus

Now it came to pass in the days of Ahasuerus

(this is Ahasuerus which reigned, from India even unto Ethiopia,

over an hundred and seven and twenty provinces)

A Jew, named Mordecai, had risen to become a person of authority,
and an advisior to the king, and
"Set in the Gate"

Ester 3:1

After these things did king Ahasuerus promote Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite,
and advanced him, and set his seat above all the princes that were with him.
2 And all the kings servants, that were in the kings gate, bowed, and reverenced Haman:
for the king had so commanded concerning him.
But Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence

set his seat above all the princes
does that sound a little like Daniel and the Three (3) Hebrew Children ??

Esther 3:1

After these things did king Ahasuerus promote Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite,
and advanced him, and set his seat above all the princes that were with him.

2 And all the king's servants, that were in the king's gate,
bowed, and reverenced Haman:
for the king had so commanded concerning him.
But Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence.

3 Then the king's servants, which were in the king's gate,
said unto Mordecai,

Why transgressest thou the king's commandment?

4 Now it came to pass, when they spake daily unto him,
and he hearkened not unto them, that they told Haman,
to see whether Mordecai's matters would stand:
for he had told them that he was a Jew.

Now this made Haman a little upset
 

5 And when Haman saw that Mordecai bowed not,
nor did him reverence,
then was Haman full of wrath.

6 And he thought scorn to lay hands on Mordecai alone;
for they had shewed him the people of Mordecai:
wherefore Haman sought to destroy all the Jews
that were throughout the whole kingdom of Ahasuerus,
even the people of Mordecai.

7 In the first month, that is, the month Nisan,
in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot,
before Haman from day to day, and from month to month,
to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar.

so he tricked the king into passing a law that all the Jews would be slain
and set A DATE for that to happen

8 And Haman said unto king Ahasuerus,

There is a certain people scattered abroad and dispersed
among the people in all the provinces of thy kingdom;
and their laws are diverse from all people;
neither keep they the king's laws:
therefore it is not for the king's profit to suffer them.

If it please the king, let it be written that they may be destroyed:
and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver
to the hands of those that have the charge of the business,
to bring it into the king's treasuries.

10 And the king took his ring from his hand,
and gave it unto Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite,
the Jews' enemy.

11 And the king said unto Haman,

The silver is given to thee, the people also,
to do with them as it seemeth good to thee.

And the letters were sent by posts into all the kings provinces,
to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish, all Jews,
both young and old, little children and women,
in one day,
even upon the thirteenth (13th) day of the twelfth month,
which is the month Adar,
and to take the spoil of them for a prey.

The copy of the writing for a commandment to be given
in every province was published unto all people,
that they should be ready against that day.

the thirteenth (13th) day of the twelfth month,
which is the month Adar,

Now we have Queen Esther to the rescue
and this happens;
not going to go into a lot of scripture; you can read the story for yourself

Esther 9:1

Now in the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar, on the thirteenth day of the same,
when the king's commandment and his decree drew near to be put in execution,
in the day that the enemies of the Jews hoped to have power over them,
(though it was turned to the contrary, that the Jews had rule over them that hated them)

2 The Jews gathered themselves together in their cities
throughout all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus,
to lay hand on such as sought their hurt:
and no man could withstand them; for the fear of them fell upon all people.

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--------The Decree-------------------------------------------- The Result
And the letters were sent by posts ----
into all the kings provinces,
to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish, all Jews,
both young and old, little children and women,
in one day,
even upon the thirteenth {13th} day ----------------- on the thirteenth (13th) day of the same
of the twelfth month,--------------------------------- Now in the twelfth month,
which is the month Adar,------------------------------ the month Adar,
and to take the spoil of them for a prey. --------------- ( ..that the Jews had rule over them that hated them)

Hopefully you notice
the -- very day -- that the decree to kill all the Jews is --- the Day --- they were put to death
upon the Thirteenth (13th) day of the Twelfth (12th) month which is the Month of Adar

Rev. 13:15

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast,
that the image of the beast should both speak,
and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

then we have this

Rev.9:13

And the sixth angel sounded,
and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet,
Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed,
which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year,
for to slay the third part of men.

We learned from Esther, that the Day / Date they had set to kill the jews
In the very day they had set to kill all the Jews,
well; --------------- Thats the day they were slain

David asks a question
Psalms 94:20

Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee,
which frameth mischief by a law?
21 They gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous,
and condemn the innocent blood.
22 But the LORD is my defence;
and my God is the rock of my refuge.

now David says this will happen to them that;
gather themselves together against the soul of the righteous,
and condemn the innocent blood.

23 And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity,
and shall cut them off in their own wickedness;
yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.

So what will be Gods answer, when they
the throne of iniquity
set out to enforce the Death Decree of the beast of Rev ch 13

A question or two

What 4 things does a death decree have

a man has been convicted of a crime worthy of death,
so the Judge says
the court sentences him to die in the electric chair at

9:00am .......................= the hour
on Wed. the 10th day ...= the Day
of June ......................= the Month
1900 ..........................=the year

so a death decree states
the Hour, the Day, the Month, and the year,
that this execution will happen
 

15 And the four angels were loosed,
which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year,
for to slay the third part of men.

When the Death Decree is passed;
what are they announcing ???

They are condemning themselves

and announcing their own death

That's the Day God will turn the Angels loose on them,

23 And he shall bring upon them their own iniquity,
and shall cut them off in their own wickedness;
yea, the LORD our God shall cut them off.

[Buzzards]

as you noticed the decree was over
the Law of God - vs - the Kings Law
 

8 And Haman said unto king Ahasuerus,

There is a certain people scattered abroad and dispersed
among the people in all the provinces of thy kingdom;
and their laws are diverse from all people;
neither keep they the king's laws:
therefore it is not for the king's profit to suffer them.

If it please the king, let it be written that they may be destroyed:
and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver
to the hands of those that have the charge of the business,
to bring it into the king's treasuries.

--------The Decree-------------------------------------------- The Result
And the letters were sent by posts ----
into all the kings provinces,
to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish, all Jews,
both young and old, little children and women,
in one day,
even upon the thirteenth {13th} day ----------------- on the thirteenth (13th) day of the same
of the twelfth month,--------------------------------- Now in the twelfth month,
which is the month Adar,------------------------------ the month Adar,
and to take the spoil of them for a prey. --------------- ( ..that the Jews had rule over them that hated them)

Hopefully you notice
the -- very day -- that the decree to kill all the Jews is --- the Day --- they were put to death
upon the Thirteenth (13th) day of the Twelfth (12th) month which is the Month of Adar

We learned from Esther, that the Day = Date they had set to kill the jews
In the very day they had set to
kill all the Jews,
well; Thats the day they were slain

God had so decreed thru Daniel,
they were to leave, and go back home and
""Rebuild""" what Babylon had destroyed

Daniel 9:2

In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years,
whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet,
that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
''
23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth,
and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved:
therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity,
and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand,
that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem..
.....

see Ezra for these 3 decrees

but the Jews had gotten a little "comfortable" living there,
they had been blessed by God with wealth, lands, businesses,
children, and had taken wives of the Heathen,
they had the Wealth, influence, even Queen Esther
but
hey; they didn't want to leave,

so God gave them a
--- """Change of Attitude,""""---
after he delivered them from Haman, and The Death Decree,
they were now ready to get it on back to Jerusalem
and do as God had commanded

Does that sound a little like the Protestants ?????

God open the way for us to
"Rebuild what Rome had destroyed",
its called the Reformation
and has given us the Freedom and Wealth to do so,
but we are a little to comfortable living for ourselves,
and we be a little to "lack-ka-dais-ical" about it


The Death decree happens in the time of the 6th Trumpet

After God delivers "His People" from the death decree
of Rev ch 13.
and we have a change of attitude

Rev.3:14

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; ..

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot:
I would thou wert cold or hot.

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot,
I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods,
and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched,
and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten:
be zealous therefore, and repent.

But he also says to those that repent
 

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock:
if any man hear my voice, and open the door,
I will come in to him, and will sup with him,
and he with me.

and to those that do so
 

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Those that don't; get cast back into the Sea
cast into everlasting darkness
to suffer the same as the days of Noah and Sodom of old
 

And he said unto me,
Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

This time we will see things clearly;
Those that don't;
well; they will have no part in the Wedding Feast

"and there shall be Wailling and Wailing and more Wailing;

Gnashing of Teeth
every man against his brother;"

[Buzzards]

What and when is the 6th trumpet. what does it, the 6th trumpet, have to do with the three Hebrew worthies?

We learned from Esther, that the Day / Date they had set to kill the jews
In the very day they had set to kill all the Jews,
well; --------------- Thats the day they were slain

What happened to the Men that threw the Three Hebrew children in the Firey Furnace

Daniel 3:1

Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold,
whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits:
he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.

What happened to the Men that threw the Three Hebrew Children in the Firey Furnace
 

Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent,

and the furnace exceeding hot,
the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

Daniel 6:5

Then said these men,
We shall not find any occasion against this Daniel,
except we find it against him concerning the law of his God.

What happened to the men that
"""Tricked King Darius"""
into passing the Law that got Daniel in the Lions den???????

Daniel 6:24

And the king commanded, and they brought those men which had accused Daniel,
and they cast them into the den of lions, them, their children, and their wives;
and the lions had the mastery of them,
and brake all their bones in pieces or ever they came at the bottom of the den.

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what does Mary; Mother of Christ; and the Book of Luke, have to do with the Death Decree
????
what can we learn from them

I'll start a thread on the Book of Luke

[Buzzards]

anyone know anything about this

7,000 Churches Fasting, Praying Over Terrifying New Persecution Law
1:00PM EDT 7/8/2016
http://www.charismanews.com/world/58...ersecution-law

true or not; this is a good example of the end times coming

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed an anti-terrorism law, but for the country's many churches, the signature sparked a demand for prayer and fasting.

The bill toughens punishment for acts deemed to be terrorism and for the organization of "mass unrest," according to the Los Angeles Times.
It would also introduce prison sentences of up to a year for those who fail to report such crimes.

Furthermore, Great Commission Ministries Chairman Hanny Haukka tells Charisma News the law entails:

Foreign guests are not permitted to speak in churches unless they have a "work permit" from Russian authorities

If a friend or relative from outside Russia wishes to share his/her faith in your home the guest will be fined and expelled from Russia.

Any discussion of God with non-believers is considered missionary activity and will be punishable.
Missionary activity will be permitted by special government permission.

Example: If one traveling on a train shares his faith without written permission the offender will be taken into police custody for the duration of the journey
and will be fined 50,000 rubles ($1,000).

Offenders from the age of 14-years-old will be subject to prosecution

Religious activity is no longer permitted in private homes. Most churches in Russia meet in homes.

Every citizen is obligated to report religious activity of neighbors to the authorities.
Failure to be an informant is punishable by law.

One may pray and read the Bible at home but not in the presence of a non-believing person.
You will be breaking the law and be punished.

If the church has purchased property it cannot be converted into a place of worship.
In church buildings, it is not permitted to invite people to turn to God.
Worship services are permitted but making a non-believer a follower of Christ is against the law.

[8thdaypriest]

I read about these recently signed laws in the paper I get from "Voice of the Martyrs".   Persecution of Jesus' true followers is heating up everywhere, even in the United States - in the form of fines levied against businesses whose owners do not want to participate in SCOTUS "weddings" for Bible reasons. 

[8thdaypriest]

I can AGREE concerning the year, month, day, and hour - concerning an execution decree. 

I would just add that there is another "hour and day and month and year" in the Torah.  That is the hour the High Priest enters the Most Holy Place on the 10th day of the 7th month of the 49th year, which begins the Jubilee. 

[Raphael]

I recall the the story of prophecies concerning a time where the Truth will be made unavailable and people will panic in search and yet not find..

This fits with the current events.. Upheavals and shootings of police in USA, Brexit and all exit efforts resounding from everywhere, continual belittling of USA militarily from China, Soviet, and North Korea among others.. Now including this latest news from Russia on religion.. I'm sure there's more..

This all happened when values are attacked openly by mad punk leaders revelling in gay madness.. In areas where people have lost values and are at pragmatical and survival levels with no idealism, adding gay cultural wars won't affect much.. But in areas where hearts still throb.. Panic, apathy, chaos will ensue.. The feeling that there are no more values to hold on.. 

The world evolved and was able to do so with values.. The value and introduction of democracy, Christian justice and court system, industrial revolution.. Knowledge of hospital sterility allowing succesful operations and treatments.. And innumerable others.. Now contrast this to the justification and legalizing and the value of keeping gays and their existance as acceptable healthy norms.. No other desease or sickness ever evolves that far, to endeavour to be taken off the list of illness..

Gay sex don't impose hazzard and dangers as great as their revelry of extreme femininity.. Masculinity of men pose leaderships, accountability, deep long term thinking, hard work, among others, while feminity simply brings the other polar of as follower, impulsive, shallow simplistic thinking, can't face things directly bringing about manipulative, backstabbing and traitorship, just to name a few..

The rise of feminity caught the world off guard i guess.. Never imagining or anticipating the emergence of gay revelry and its likes in character and nature.. Now short knee-jerking thinking and even chaos is today's mode.. Seen in Brexit and latest events..

[Raphael]

I understand now that the prophesied panic and search of Truth is not because of the unavailabity of Truth but rather the absence of its values in life and society.. I couldn't understand before..