Full Moon and Crucifixion Solar Eclipse

[phkrause]

9 When Yeshua rose early Sunday, he appeared first to Miryam of Magdala, from whom he had expelled seven demons. CJB

9 [They promptly reported all of the young man's instructions to those who were with Peter. Afterward, through the work of his disciples, Jesus sent out, from the east to the west, the sacred and undying message of eternal salvation. Amen. ][[After Jesus rose up early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons   CEB

9 But he rising early the first day of the week, appeared first to Mary Magdalen; out of whom he had cast seven devils.     RHE

9 [[Now when he rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons. ESV

9 After Jesus came back to life early on Sunday, he appeared first to Mary from Magdala, from whom he had forced out seven demons.    GW

9 After Jesus rose from death early on Sunday, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had driven out seven demons.     GNT

9 Now when he had risen early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Miryam from Magdala, from whom he had cast out seven demons.     HNV

9 Now as Jesus rose early the first of the sabbaths, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.     JUB

9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.     KJV

9 Now early on the first [day] of the week, [after he] rose, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had expelled seven demons.     LEB

9 [Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.     NAS

9 After Jesus rose from the dead early on the first day of the week, he showed himself first to Mary Magdalene. One time in the past, he had forced seven demons out of her.     NCV

9 And now after Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach stood up alive early on Yom Rishon he appeared rishonah (first) to Miryam of Magdala, from whom he had cast out shiva shedim.     OJB

                              Yom Rishon – יום ראשון‎ (abbreviated יום א׳‎), meaning "first day" [corresponds to Sunday] (starting at preceding sunset of Saturday)

I could go on and on, every Bible except one so far says First Day! The JUB version, and that seems to be suspect as to what is actually meant by Sabbaths!! Sorry but Mark doesn't say EXPLICITLY as we can all read.

 

[Samie]

11 hours ago, phkrause said:

I could go on and on, every Bible except one so far says First Day! The JUB version, and that seems to be suspect as to what is actually meant by Sabbaths!! Sorry but Mark doesn't say EXPLICITLY as we can all read.

He did in Greek.  Mark did not write his gospel account in English, did he, Peter?

^BGT Mark 16:9 VAnasta.j de. prwi> prw,th| sabba,tou evfa,nh prw/ton Mari,a| th/| Magdalhnh/|( parV h-j evkbeblh,kei e`pta. daimo,niaÅ

[phkrause]

On 3/15/2017 at 9:44 AM, Samie said:

He did in Greek.  Mark did not write his gospel account in English, did he, Peter?

Of course not!! So why did every translation, translate it as the "first day?" Yet you want to convince everybody that you are correct and everyone else is wrong?????

[Samie]

16 hours ago, phkrause said:

Of course not!! So why did every translation, translate it as the "first day?" Yet you want to convince everybody that you are correct and everyone else is wrong?????

And why are you convincing me to follow your lead and just swallow hook, line and sinker what the Sunday-keeping translators did to "sabbaton" in Mark 16:9 by translating it into "week"?  If you want to help them, then at least show proof of the validity of their translation. I have shown my basis why  "sabbatou" should refer to "sabbath".  You can't even refute it, can you, Peter?

The Greek for "week" is "hebdomas", since when did "sabbaton" become "week"?

[JoeMo]

1 hour ago, Samie said:

And why are you convincing me to follow your lead and just swallow hook, line and sinker what the Sunday-keeping translators did

C'mon Samie,

Are you saying that the translator of the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) was a Sunday Keeper?  That would be novel - a Sunday keeping Jew.

"When Yeshua rose early Sunday, he appeared first to Miryam of Magdala, from whom he had expelled seven demons ..." (Mark 16:9 CJB)

[phkrause]

4 hours ago, JoeMo said:

C'mon Samie,

Are you saying that the translator of the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) was a Sunday Keeper?  That would be novel - a Sunday keeping Jew.

"When Yeshua rose early Sunday, he appeared first to Miryam of Magdala, from whom he had expelled seven demons ..." (Mark 16:9 CJB)

Exactly JoeMo. And do all the other Messianic Jewish Bibles that are out there, which I quoted from! He wants us to take his translation, oh, that's right, he doesn't have one!!

[Samie]

16 hours ago, JoeMo said:

C'mon Samie,

Are you saying that the translator of the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) was a Sunday Keeper? 

Nope. If a Jew translated it that way, I'm not saying he's a Sunday-keeper. 

But that's beside the point. I had mentioned and can show proof that all occurrences of "sabbatou" in the Septuagint all came from "shabbath", Hebrew for "sabbath" from where the Greeks derived their "sabbaton", and not from "shabua" Hebrew for "week".  The Septuagint is an extant document written by Greek-speaking Hebrew scholars.  It clarifies how "sabbatou" was used during those days when Koine Greek was the lingua franca of the times. 

Can you show any document written in the days of, and as authoritative as, the Septuagint that tells us "sabbatou" can refer to "week"?

[Dave Watchman]

On 3/10/2017 at 0:39 PM, JoeMo said:

Full Moons (in 30 - 33 AD) - which occur on Passover (Nissan 14) were:

AD 30 - Friday April 7

AD 31 - Wednesday April 25

AD 32 - Monday April 14

AD 33 - either Sat. April 4 or Sunday May 3 (new moon on Nisan 1 occurred too late in the day to be observed in Jerusalem on Sat. March 21)

Not according to the U S Naval Observatory:

FULL MOON

29 April 17   3 a.m.   Sun.               

30 April  6   8 p.m.   Thu.                

31 March 27  11 a.m.   Tue.               

32 April 14   9 a.m.   Mon.               

33 April  3   3 p.m.   Fri.               

34 March 23   3 p.m.   Tue.               

Spring Phenomena

Spring Phenomena Provides vernal equinox dates (from 25 BCE to 38 CE), plus Full and new moon times near vernal equinox

 

Jesus died in the middle of a "week" that began 490 years after a decree that was issued in 457BC. The last week in the lower right at the end of 10 Jubilee cycles:

 

My favorite prophecy guy already has these parts figured out.

Larry Wilson:

 

 

 

(I'm more worried about the day when the Son of Man will be revealed)

Peaceful Sabbath

[8thdaypriest]

On 3/10/2017 at 3:17 PM, Samie said:

Thanks, JoeMo.  The links are very helpful.  Given the data for full moon occurrences in the reign of Pilate, I guess it would be quite easy for anyone to ascertain the crucifixion date of our Lord. 

I noticed that judaismvschristianity.com reckoned their dates for passover from the visibility of the crescent, instead of when full moon occurred. Did the Jerusalem observer really see the young crescent on the day it was supposed to be seen?  What if there were clouds lying low on the horizon blocking the observer's view for the crescent to be seen?  I think this is legitimate consideration that need to be taken into account. 

This becomes even more apparent since Jesus celebrated Passover with His disciples a day ahead of the Jewish national celebration that year He was crucified.   The official Jerusalem observer, for whatever reason, may have failed to see the crescent on the day it was first visible and saw it the day after, thus postponing Nisan 1 a day later, but Jesus can NEVER lose track of when full moon was to occur that paschal week.

For me, since Passover is a full moon festival as instructed by the LORD, it had to be reckoned vis-a-vis full moon occurrences rather than on when the crescent was sighted.  No record exists as to when the crescent was first observed, but on the other hand, full moon occurrences can be computed with accuracy forward or backward in time.  And Jesus Who came to fulfill the law including the law on when passover was to be observed, celebrated passover with His disciples on a full moon night, the same night He was arrested.

Jesus ate the Passover after sundown - ON Nissan 14.   Jesus was arrested later that same night, STILL Nissan 14.  The "day" begins at sundown.  He suffered whipping during that same night - STILL Nissan 14.

He died the afternoon following (before the sun set] - which was STILL Nissan 14. 

The command from Exodus was that the Passover was to be EATEN on Nissan 15, after the sun set. 

Passover was the day the lamb died - NOT the day they ate the lamb.  The day they ATE the lamb was the "Feast of Unleavened Bread". 

Jesus ATE the Feast of Unleavened Bread on the 14th [after sunset] rather than on the 15th. 

But would the priests at the Temple have prepared the meat in the proper way for Passover [no bone broken, to be eaten whole] if it was sacrificed on the 13th, rather than the 14th?  I believe they would have, because the rulers had extended Passover to TWO DAYS, to accommodate the millions of worshipers who flooded Jerusalem for the Feast, by this time in history.  There were not enough priests to complete the sacrifice of all the lambs on one day.

PS:  There is much commentary (with Scripture support) coming out recently, saying that all sacrifices were boiled - rather than roasted, AFTER the Israelites crossed into the "promised land".  Just google it. 

[8thdaypriest]

31 minutes ago, 8thdaypriest said:

PS:  There is much commentary (with Scripture support) coming out recently, saying that all sacrifices were boiled - rather than roasted, AFTER the Israelites crossed into the "promised land".  Just google it. 

Should have said "all Passover sacrifices". 

The barley had to be ripe for the Feast of Firstfruits.  If the barley was not ripe, the High Priest would delay the Passover to the next month.  This happened about one in every 4 years.  I wonder if anyone has looked at the month following the Vernal Equinox in each of those years, to see where the full moon fell - on what day of the week.  

[Samie]

Larry Wilson:

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"Irrefutable, Unequivocal Proof That Jesus Died April 7, AD 30"

John records 3 passover feasts AFTER the Lord's baptism until His crucifixion.  He was baptized in the 15th year of Tiberius' reign as emperor.  Tiberius started his reign as emperor in 14 AD, hence his 15th year is 28 AD, the year our Lord was baptized.  The first passover after His baptism would then be in 29 AD, the second in 30 AD.

Hence, Jesus could not have been crucified 30 AD.

Jesus was crucified on March 28, 31 AD, Wednesday.  3 days & 3 nights later, as He Himself specified, He rose from the grave, as Mark originally recorded in Greek scriptures,  prwi> prw,th| sabba,tou = early morning of the chief Sabbath - Saturday.  Why chief Sabbath? 

Because there were at least 2 Sabbaths that paschal week: the Passover Sabbath (a ceremonial Sabbath) of the Jews that then fell on Thursday, and the weekly Sabbath (the Sabbath of the Lord).  Between a ceremonial Sabbath which the Lord calls "your Sabbath" and the weekly Sabbath, which the Lord calls "My Sabbath", the chief Sabbath is, undoubtedly, the weekly Sabbath - Saturday.

[Gerr]

Total darkness lasting 3 hours due to an eclipse?  I don't think so!

[Dave Watchman]

On 3/14/2017 at 5:08 PM, Samie said:

Three daytimes and three nighttimes thereafter as He Himself specified (Matt 12:40), Jesus rose from the grave early morning of the chief Sabbath - Saturday, as Mark EXPLICITLY recorded (Mark 16:9, Greek scriptures). 

Are you sure about that?

Are you sure that the three days and three nights began when He was put in the tomb?

Or did the three days and three nights begin when the wicked were finally able to capture Him and the the mob came and carried Him away?

Like how the great fish came and carried Jonah away against his will.

"For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Three Days and Three Nights

Before addressing the meaning behind the “sign of Jonah,” I first want to explain the time interval of “three days and three nights.” That is a frequently asked question in connection with this familiar text. Because of a simple misunderstanding, this particular passage in Matthew has managed to cause confusion, frustration and even division among laypersons, clergy and scholars alike. By first dealing with the popular “three days and nights” conundrum regarding the story of Jonah, we’ll be able to peacefully proceed through the rest of this wonderful study.

Jesus says that the Son of Man will “be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth” —meaning in the tomb. We’ll assume, as commonly believed, that Jesus died Friday and rose Sunday. Noting this, no matter how you cut it, Jesus was not in the tomb for three nights—even though Scripture distinctly states “three nights.”

Frankly, it’s very sad to see Christians expend so much energy struggling to explain something that the Bible clearly explains itself! The problem is not in “the three days and three nights” at all. The problem springs from our misunderstanding of the phrase “in the heart of the earth.” I’ll first address this issue, and then explain what “heart of the earth” means.

The Heart of the Earth

Whenever we attempt to gather the meaning of a passage in Scripture, we must compare it with other similar or related passages. This allows the Bible—the inspired Word—to interpret itself. Since the term “heart of the earth” is found only in Matthew 12, and nowhere else in Scripture, we need to find similar verses to reference.

The phrase “in the earth” appears 66 times in the King James Bible, but none of these refers to the grave. For instance, in the Lord’s Prayer we pray, “Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven.” Does this mean we’re praying for God’s will to be done in the tomb as it is in heaven? No, of course not! Rather, it means His will among the people of earth—the nations of the earth—as it isdone among the angels in heaven.

In the second commandment, we read, “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth” (Exodus 20:4). We easily recognize here that “in the earth beneath” does not mean in the grave, but rather in the world. Jesus also says, “Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth” (Matthew 5:5). Does that mean they will inherit the tomb? I think you get my point.

Hell’s Headquarters

A distinct change took place the hour Christ was betrayed into the “hands of sinners”—or we might better say “into the hands of the devil.” Something different began to happen.

You see, before this point in Jesus’ ministry, every time a mob tried to capture or stone Him or hurl Him off a cliff, He passed unharmed. He slipped right through their fingers. This was because He was innocent before the Father, and therefore under divine angelic protection. His hour had not yet come. It was not yet His time to suffer for the sins of the world. But after that hour—Thursday evening—when the past, present, and future sins of the world were placed upon the Lamb of God, then it was time.

Sometimes we forget that the penalty for sin is not just death; there is also punishment or suffering that is perfectly measured out according to our works (Luke 12:47; 2 Peter 2:9). Jesus came to take our total penalty, the suffering, and the death (Romans 6:23). When exactly did He begin to bear the sins of the world? It was actually long before that. It began Thursday evening in the Garden of Gethsemane.

From the moment He began bearing the penalty for our sins, Jesus was in the heart of the earth, or more accurately, the headquarters of hell. Soldiers beat Him. The crowds spat on Him. He was dragged from one trial to another—from the high priest to Pilate, from Herod back to Pilate, and then finally to Golgotha. He was in the clutches of this evil world, the clutches of the devil who is the prince of this world (John 16:11).

Also, remember that Jonah was not stationary while he was sequestered in the great fish, as with a dead person in a tomb. Rather, he was like a living captive in a mobile submarine, to go wherever the fish took him. When the fish went up, he went up; and when the fish went down, he went down. In like manner, Jesus was a captive of the devil and his minions. Satan was completely in the control of a demon-crazed mob that took Jesus from place to place, heaping abuse, insult, and physical punishment upon our Redeemer. When He suffered the punishment and penalty for our sins, He was “in the heart,” or in the midst, of this lost world.

- DOUG BATCHELOR

Full Article:

The Sign of Jonah | Free Book Library | Amazing Facts

 

The Sign of Jonah | Free Book Library | Amazing Facts The scribes and Pharisees wanted a sign from Jesus that He was the Christ, so Jesus likened His ministry to the ...

 

 

[Dave Watchman]

2 hours ago, Samie said:

John records 3 passover feasts AFTER the Lord's baptism until His crucifixion.  He was baptized in the 15th year of Tiberius' reign as emperor.  Tiberius started his reign as emperor in 14 AD, hence his 15th year is 28 AD, the year our Lord was baptized.  The first passover after His baptism would then be in 29 AD, the second in 30 AD.

Hence, Jesus could not have been crucified 30 AD.

Are you sure about that?

"Irrefutable, Unequivocal Proof That Jesus Died April 7, AD 30":

The 1st century Jews used a method of counting called "inclusive". This meant that any part of a year was counted as a whole year.

The 1st century Jews used two calendars. A religious calendar that started with Nisan 1 and a civil calendar that started with Tishri 1.

So Tiberius came to power on September 17 and the Jewish civil year ended on or about November 11.

Luke counted September 17 to November 11 (55 days) as "year 1" of Tiberius' reign because Tiberius, counting inclusively, ascended to the throne during the last 55 days of that civil year.

The following civil year (which began on November 11) became the second year of Tiberius' reign.

(Sept 17-Nov 11)

Year   1 = A.D. 14

Year   2 = A.D. 14/15

Year   3 = A.D. 15/16

Year   4 = A.D. 16/17

Year   5 = A.D. 17/18

Year   6 = A.D. 18/19

Year   7 = A.D. 19/20

Year   8 = A.D. 20/21

Year   9 = A.D. 21/22

Year 10 = A.D. 22/23

Year 11 = A.D. 23/24

Year 12 = A.D. 24/25

Year 13 = A.D. 25/26

Year 14 = A.D. 26/27

Year 15 = A.D. 27/28

Because the Jewish civil year was a Fall to Fall year, and Jesus was baptized during the 15th year of Tiberius, Jesus had to be baptized after Tishri 1.

This forces the baptism of Jesus into the Fall of  A.D. 27.

This also confirms a decree that was made in 457 B.C. that began the "70 weeks" of Daniel 9.

 

From 1437 B.C. until 1994 there were seven sets of "70 weeks", Daniel 9 was the "third" set.

"In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering

Jesus put an end to sacrifice in the middle of this last week of Daniel 9:

 

See Larry Wilson's first video at the 15 minute mark.

 

[Samie]

1 hour ago, Dave Watchman said:

 

On 15/03/2017 at 5:08 AM, Samie said:

Three daytimes and three nighttimes thereafter as He Himself specified (Matt 12:40), Jesus rose from the grave early morning of the chief Sabbath - Saturday, as Mark EXPLICITLY recorded (Mark 16:9, Greek scriptures). 

Are you sure about that?

Yes.

1 hour ago, Dave Watchman said:

Are you sure that the three days and three nights began when He was put in the tomb?

I did not say that. 

For me, the 3 days and 3 nights began when He died on the cross.  I believe the phrase "to be in the heart of the earth" is "to return to earth" or "to return to dust", that is, to die.

^KJV Genesis 3:19 . . . for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

 

^KJV Psalm 104:29 . . . thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.

 

^KJV Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

[Samie]

37 minutes ago, Dave Watchman said:

The 1st century Jews used a method of counting called "inclusive". This meant that any part of a year was counted as a whole year.

The 1st century Jews used two calendars. A religious calendar that started with Nisan 1 and a civil calendar that started with Tishri 1.

So Tiberius came to power on September 17 and the Jewish civil year ended on or about November 11.

Luke counted September 17 to November 11 (55 days) as "year 1" because Tiberius, counting inclusively, ascended to the throne during the last 55 days of that civil year.

 The following civil year (which began on November 11) became the second year of Tiberius' reign.

Tiberius ascended the throne 14 AD. Historical records attest to this fact.  From 14AD, the 15th year is 28AD. 27AD is 14th year.

1^st Year – 14 AD

2^nd Year – 15 AD

3^rd Year – 16 AD

4^th Year – 17 AD

5^th Year – 18 AD

6^th Year – 19 AD

7^th Year – 20 AD

8^th Year – 21 AD

9^th Year – 22 AD

10^th Year – 23 AD

11^th Year – 24 AD

12^th Year – 25 AD

13^th Year – 26 AD

14^th Year – 27 AD

15^th Year – 28 AD

John recorded THREE (3) Passovers after the baptism of our Lord. Hence, the first Passover after His baptism was on 29 AD.  The second, on 30 AD.  Therefore it couldn't be possible He was crucified 30 AD, or one Passover is missing.

[Samie]

There were actually FOUR (4) different phrases Jesus used to describe the period from His crucifixion to resurrection:

1.    3 days and 3 nights (Matt 12:40)

2.    in three days (John 2:19-21)

3.    after three days (Matt. 27:63; Mk. 8:31) and

4.    third day (Matt. 16:21; 17:23; 20:19; 27:64; Mk. 9:31; 10:34; Lk. 9:22; 13:32; 18:33;
24:7, 21, 46)

 

Only the Wednesday crucifixion and early Saturday morning resurrection easily fits all
these phrases.

• 3 days and 3 nights.

From Wednesday daytime to Saturday before sunrise is 3 days and 3 nights:

Daytime Wednesday = day 1
Nighttime Wednesday = night 1
Daytime Thursday = day 2
Nighttime Thursday = night 2
Daytime Friday = day 3
Nighttime Friday (which extends up to before sunrise Saturday) = night 3
 

On the other hand, from Friday daytime to Sunday before sunrise is only 2 days and 2
nights:

Daytime Friday = day 1
Nighttime Friday = night 1
Daytime Saturday = day 2
Nighttime Saturday (which extends up to before sunrise Sunday) = night 2

Hence, the Friday crucifixion and Sunday resurrection fails the test.
 

• in three days.

The Bible defines a day as having a night and a day (Gen 1:5,8,13,19,23,31).
Therefore, 'in three days' is actually in 3 nights and 3 days or 3 days and 3 nights.
Again the Friday crucifixion and Sunday resurrection cannot fit this because it only has 2 days and 2 nights or 2 nights and 2 days.

• after three days.

After 3 days from Wednesday = Saturday.
Proof:

After 1 day from Wednesday = Thursday
After 2 days from Wednesday = Friday
Therefore: After 3 days from Wednesday = Saturday.

On the other hand,

After 1 day from Friday = Saturday

After 2 days from Friday = Sunday

Therefore, the Friday crucifixion and Sunday resurrection cannot fit because
Sunday is “after 2 days” from Friday, whereas the Bible specifies “after 3 days”.

• third day.

The Bible tells us that the phrase 'third day' is likewise equivalent to 'after three days':

2 Chronicles 10:5 And he said unto them, Come again unto me after three days. And the people departed.
2 Chronicles 10:12 So Jeroboam and all the people came to Rehoboam on the third day, as the king bade, saying, Come again to me on the third day.

Although the Friday crucifixion and early Sunday morning resurrection could fit the “third day” specification in the way we count, yet it cannot fit the Biblical account which equates the phrase “third day” into the phrase “after three days”.

 

Therefore, it is only the Wednesday crucifixion and early Saturday morning resurrection that snugly fits into the FOUR (4) Biblical specifications.

[Gerr]

Total darkness for THREE HOURS as the result of an eclipse?  Impossible!!!

So all this checking as to when an eclipse occurred does not settle when Jesus died.  The record clearly says He died on Friday, the Preparation Day, and rose on the first day of the week.

 

 

[Dave Watchman]

17 minutes ago, Gerry Cabalo said:

Total darkness for THREE HOURS as the result of an eclipse?  Impossible!!!

So all this checking as to when an eclipse occurred does not settle when Jesus died.  The record clearly says He died on Friday, the Preparation Day, and rose on the first day of the week.

You are the winner Gerry.

And you did it without wasting all of the bandwidth and electricity that I did on this page 2. 

 

 

[Samie]

21 hours ago, Gerry Cabalo said:

Total darkness for THREE HOURS as the result of an eclipse?  Impossible!!!

So all this checking as to when an eclipse occurred does not settle when Jesus died.  The record clearly says He died on Friday, the Preparation Day, and rose on the first day of the week.

Really? So what do you call the darkening of the sun for 3 hours recorded in the Bible?

Nobody’s checking for eclipses to ascertain when Jesus was crucified, Gerry. But full moon occurrences, Yes.

Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus died on Friday? I know the Bible says it was preparation day, the day before the Sabbath when Jesus was crucified.  But Friday? No.  And the Sabbath mentioned by Mark is ceremonial Sabbath of the Jews that then fell on Thursday, NOT the weekly Sabbath.

[JoeMo]

Does it really matter on what day or what year Christ died on or was resurrected?  I personally don't find this to be a salvational issue.  The gist of the story is that Jesus died to pay the penalty for our sins; and the Father resurrected Him, showing that Jesus' sacrifice was acceptable.  I'll be sure of the day of the week and the year once Jesus explains it to me in the Kingdom.  In the mean time, I will be happy knowing that I have a Lord and Savior who gave His life for me, and who lives again in heaven to intercede for all of us until He returns in glory and power.

[B/W Photodude]

20 hours ago, Samie said:

Really? So what do you call the darkening of the sun for 3 hours recorded in the Bible?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England's_Dark_Day

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New England's Dark Day refers to an event that occurred on May 19, 1780, when an
unusual darkening of the day sky was observed over the New England states and parts
of Canada.[1] The primary cause of the event is believed to have been a combination
of smoke from forest fires,[2] a thick fog, and cloud cover. The darkness was so
complete that candles were required from noon on. It did not disperse until the
middle of the next night.[3][4]

From the Wayback Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110227191738/http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/eh/12.1/campanella.html

http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/almanac/arc2004/alm04may.htm

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEcat5/SE1701-1800.html

There was a solar eclipse on May 4 and October 27 of the year 1780. So, when the
great dark day of 1780 occirred, there were no solar eclipses. Again, people are
trying to find reasons for what may have been a supernatural event. The darkening of
the sun in 1780 lasted from about 10am for the rest of the day! Much longer than 3
hours.

[Samie]

18 hours ago, JoeMo said:

Does it really matter on what day or what year Christ died on or was resurrected?  I personally don't find this to be a salvational issue.

It may NOT matter to some; it may matter to some others.  And yes, it is not a salvational issue.

For me, I find it amazingly precise for a full moon to fall on Tuesday night of March 27, 31 AD since it would be just right for Jesus Who came to fulfill the law - and that includes the law on when Passover is to be celebrated, to celebrate Passover that same night with His disciples.  There's just no other night other than the nighttime after sunset of March 27, 31AD that can satisfy Scripture specification coupled by astronomical corroboration.  Scriptures specify a full moon celebration of Passover; Jesus did it on a full moon night.

Am just presenting what I believe are biblical and astronomical basis that Jesus was crucified on March 28, 31AD, and AFTER 3 days and 3 nights as He Himself specified, rose from the grave early Saturday morning of March 31, as attested to by Mark when he recorded that Jesus was resurrected on "proi prote sabbatou" = "early morning of the chief Sabbath".

It can be easily shown that in the Septuagint, "sabbatou" NEVER referred to "week" because all occurrences of "sabbatou" were from the Hebrew "shabbath" and NONE from "shabua", Hebrew for "week".  The Septuagint - a work of Greek speaking Hebrew scholars - is an extant document that tells us now that in those days where Koine Greek was the lingua franca of the times, the genetive "sabbatou" does not refer to "week".

On the other hand, those who favor that "sabbatou" refers to "week" cannot provide any single document written circa the time of the Septuagint, that tells us "sabbatou" indeed refers to "week".

Hence, "early morning of the chief Sabbath" is a better translation for "proi prote sabbatou" than "early morning of the first day of the week".

[8thdaypriest]

I personally believe that Jesus died on a FRIDAY afternoon, and rose just at dawn of SUNDAY.  This scenario does fulfill the 3 days and 3 nights, if you start the clock when Jesus was taken into custody.  Jesus said Himself, "this is your hour" to Satan and the powers of evil.  

An interesting detail is the Feast of Firstfruits.  The Pharisees and Sadducees disagreed concerning which day should be observed.  

The Pharisees taught  that “the day after the sabbath” of the Leviticus 23:15 commandment, must be the 16th day of Adar - the day immediately following the Passover.  

        The Sadducees however believed that “the sabbath” meant the 7th day Sabbath.  The “day after” would be Sunday - the “first day of the week.”  The Sadducees celebrated the “firstfruits” on the “day after” the first 7th Day Sabbath which followed Passover - on Sunday.
 
        NOTICE!!  If The First Day of Unleavened Bread fell ON a 7th Day Sabbath in the year Christ died, then the Pharisees and the Sadducees would have been in agreement regarding the celebration of the Firstfruits offering.  For the Pharisees, it would have been the day following the Feast of Unleavened Bread.   For the Sadducees it would have been the first Sunday which followed  The Feast of Unleavened Bread.  Fifty days later, the Pharisees and the Sadducees would all have celebrated Pentecost (Shavuot) on the same day.  They would all have been at the Temple on the day when the Holy Spirit was poured out, and Peter preached with power.  
NOTE:  God does have a sense of humor!

A Wednesday or a Thursday crucifixion would result in the Pharisees and Sadducees observing different days for the Feast of Firstfruits and Pentecost. 

 

 

[8thdaypriest]

Another detail:

Leviticus 7:16-18 “But if the sacrifice of his offering be a vow, or a voluntary offering, it shall be eaten the same day that he offereth his sacrifice: and on the morrow also the remainder of it shall be eaten: But the remainder of the flesh of the sacrifice on the third day shall be burnt with fire. And if any of the flesh of the sacrifice of his peace offerings be eaten at all on the third day, it shall not be accepted, neither shall it be imputed unto him that offereth it: it shall be an abomination, and the soul that eateth of it shall bear his iniquity.” KJV (See Lev. 19:5-7.)

IF Jesus had remained in the tomb for 3 days, He would have been "unclean".   We know that the flesh of Jesus did not "see corruption".