Michael144 Posted September 10, 2017 Posted September 10, 2017 We know 1 year is 365.242 days God gave us proof he inspired the prophets with the following simple equation found in Ezekiel 4:6 and 2nd Peter 3:8, a bullseye if you've ever seen one. After understanding the equation read Revelation 9:13-15 Did the creator inspire the prophets to write the things they wrote? 100% proof below Revelation 9:15 "And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men." Something pinpoints a specific hour of a specific day of a specific year that is connected to releasing 4 "angels" from the Euphrates river (Iraq). A simple prophetic equation. This is not speculation, but purely math. "Rise and measure...." Rev. 11:1 12:00 am, 12/31/2000 was the end of 6 millenniums and the beginning of the 7th thousand year period Literal and prophetic day: The equation "Knowledge will increase..." - Daniel 12 ? Ezekiel 4:6, we now know 1 year (365.242 days) is 1 prophetic day "I give thee a day for a year.." - Ezekiel 4:6 2 Peter 3:8, ....1 day is as 1,000 years and 1,000 years is as 1 day (1440 minutes) {Plug in a prophetic day is as a thousand years} A prophetic equation staring us right in the face for centuries The math 365.242 = 1 year = 1 prophetic day 1 prophetic day is as 1,000 years Equation: 365.242 divide by 1000 And 1,000 years is as 1 day = (24 hours = 1440 minutes) Equation: 1000 years divide by 1440 = less than 1 year 1,000 divide by 1440 minutes (1 day) = .694444444444444 of 1 year What day in the first year of any millennium (1,000 years) is .694444444444444? .694444444444444 x 365.242 reveals the day and month in the first year of a millennium = Day 253.6402777777778 of 2001 = day 254, 9/11/2001 But what hour? 1 (prophetic) day is as 1,000 years - 2 Peter 3:8 365.242 days divide by 1,000 = less than one day or .365242 of 24 hours .365242 x 24 hours = The time 8.765808 hours = 8 hours 45 minutes 57 seconds or 8:45:57am Rev. 9:15 "....hour and a day and a month and a year." 9/11/2001 at 8:45:57 am = The exact day and official time the first plane (angel?) hit the north tower Side thoughts: There are 111 days left in the year after the 254th day September 11. Notice the verse number in Rev. 9:15. 9 hours 15 minutes = 555 minutes. The Washington monument is 555 ft. above ground and 111 below ground for a total of 666 ft. 666 ft. = 7992 inches 7992 hours into the year = 333 days or 11/29, November 29. The very day Israel was conceived on paper in 1947. It's been 68+ years since that day. (Daniel 9 and 70 weeks [70 feast of weeks]) = 70 years - Michael Quote 1 Corinthians4:5
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted September 11, 2017 Moderators Posted September 11, 2017 The above is simply human reasoning which expands and goes beyond what the Bible says. Let is take a look at this: * Those who tell us that in Bible prophecy a day is equivalent to a year support that with a Biblical text. Others debate that view. But, our focus here is not the correctness of that view. My point is that right or wrong, those who hold this view believe that it is founded on a text of Scripture that clearly states that principle. * Those who suggest that the time period of a week may be obtained by simply taking the above equating a week to 1/52 of a year due to the fact that there are 52 weeks in a year. So, if a prophetic one day equals a calendar year, and a year equals 365 calendar years a prophetic week would equal about 7 years. * Following the same line of reasoning, a prophetic hour would equal about 15 calendar days. * This could be continued with a prophetic minute and second. NOTE: For the purpose of this post, I am actually making it simple. Actually the computations are more complex than I have made in the above. E.G. Is the prophetic day equal to 365 years or 360 years. There are more complexities than this .One basic problem, and there are more, with the above is that the Bible never mentions and identifies what a prophetic week, day, hour, minute, second, etc. might be. The computations go well beyond what the Bible actually states. It is purely human reasoning with no Biblical basis. IOW, If the Bible does not explicitly state that a prophetic week equals about 7 years, we should not do so. phkrause 1 Quote Gregory
Michael144 Posted September 11, 2017 Author Posted September 11, 2017 We're all waiting for you (Adventist prophecy experts) to tell us what time, day, month, and year Revelation 9:15 is hiding. I was an Adventist for 15 years until I realized their claim to understand prophecy was highly exaggerated. Its a simple equation that yields the exact time the first plane hit the north tower on the exact date day 254 of the year. If 1000 years is as 1 day then this clue is telling you to divide 1000 years by the parts of a day. If when you do this you don't recognize the sum then you've done it wrong. As I said I was an Adventist and I watched teachers attemp this equation with vague results and no recognizable numbers. There are 1440 minutes in a day so you divide 1000 years by 1440 and you get 1 prophetic minute. 1000 divide by 1440 = 0.694444444444444 which is less than 1 year. But what day of the year? 0.694444444444444 x 365.242 = Day 253.6402777777778 of the year (254). Day 254 of the year is today, 9/11. Now this equation reveals the first prophetic minute of a 1000 year period so we know there have been 7 of them since Adam. 9/11/2001 was the 7th prophetic first minute of a 1000 year day. 253.6402777777778 x 7? Puts you on the 1776th day, another recognizable number. 1 day (Ezekiel 4:6) is as 1000 Daniel 12, knowledge will increase we know 1 year is 365.242 days so plug in a prophetic day to 2 Peter 3:8 and you get another recognizable number related to 9/11. The exact time the first plane hit the towers. (Prophetic day) 365.242 divide by 1000 gives you 0.365242 or less than one day but what time? 0.365242 x 1440 = 525.94848 minutes into that day or 8 hours 45 minutes 57 seconds. On an analog clock anyone calls that 8:46. You talk about wondering if a year is 360 days well nowhere does any calendar have 360 days not even the Hebrew. It's always different. Not to mention you don't produce recognizable numbers with what you think you know. I just gave you recognizable numbers that are 100% bullseye to Revelation 9 which talks about the Euphrates river which is where? Iraq, and who did we attack after "4" planes on 9/11? Iraq Here's another hidden time signature found in Revelation 8:1, 7th seal, silence in heaven [about] the space of half an hour. Can we find a recognizable number? 29.6 minutes = About 1 half hour 29.6 minutes = 1776 seconds Benjamin (Son of the right hand) Franklin's pen name was Silence Dogood Verse numbers are written in time format 8:1? 8:01 = 481 minutes The great pyramid is how tall? 481 ft Revelation 9:15 9:15 = 555 minutes How tall is the Washington Monument above ground? 555 ft 111 ft below ground 555 + 111 = 666 ft 666 ft. = 7992 inches Israel conceived on day 333 of 1947 or 11/29/47 333 days is 7992 hours I'll wait here for any Adventist to produce just 1 recognizable number when Revelation 11:1 commands us to wake up and do the math Revelation 13 is also another hidden time signature. The simple clue, not accusation but a clue is names of blasphemy on the heads. The first 8 months of the year have names of blasphemy, names of strange gods and months 7 and 8 are named after Roman rulers who thought they were God 7 heads 10 horns is 7 months 10 days or August 10 (Day 222 of the year. 222 is the 3rd part of 666 right? August 10, 1965 was Av 12 on the Hebrew calendar or 3 days after Av 9, Av 9, 70 was when the temple was destroyed. Coincidence? I have several more witnesses. Add 666 days to 8/10/1965 and you land on the very day Israel captured Jerusalem on 6/7/67. 1440 minutes in one day Add exactly 1440 days to 8/10/1965 and you land on 7/20/1969, the very day USA lands on the moon. Count the number of the beast. Words (Names) have numerical value A = 1, B = 2, C = 3 etc Heads = 37 7 heads = 37 x 7 = 259 but one heads is wounded to death so 259 - 37 = 222 (August 10) 74 days = 1776 hours Horns = 74 and there are 10 horns but 3 horns are uprooted right? 3 x 74 = 222 (August 10) Heads = 37 Horns = 74 beast = 47 37+74+47 = 158 June 7, 1967 is day 158 of the year israel = 64 158+64 = 222 (August 10) 70 x 7 Jesus told his disciples 70 x 7 = 490 490 minutes = 8:10 Daniel 12:11 = 1290 or 12:90 12:90 = 810 minutes Daniel 12:12 =1335 or 13:35 13:35 = 815 minutes Remember "heads" = 37 x 7 = 259 259 days = 6,216 hours The 815 area code is 6,216 miles from Jerusalem. I have more witnesses if you need them Quote 1 Corinthians4:5
B/W Photodude Posted September 11, 2017 Posted September 11, 2017 23 hours ago, Michael144 said: We know 1 year is 365.242 days There is a slight problem with your calculations. The prophecies of Daniel were written by a Jew living under a system of the Jewish calendar. One year in the Jewish calendar is give or take a day or so ... 354 days. Some years 353 and some years 355. However, you also run into the additional problem of Jewish calendar leap years when there will be over 380 days in a year due to the addition of another month (Adar II). Keep in mind that the Jewish calendar is based on the moon and typically a month is around 29.2 days. Seven years out of every 19 years by the Jewish calendar will have 13 months! So ... get your calculator out as you would seem to have to do all this math over again! What is a lunar month? It’s the duration between successive new moons. Also called a lunation or synodic month, it has a mean period of 29.53059 days (29 days 12 hours and 44 minutes). That’s the mean, but the the true length varies throughout the year. The shortest lunar month of 2017 starts with the May 25 new moon and ends at new moon on June 24, lasting 29 days 6 hours and 46 minutes. The longest lunar month of the 21st century (2001 to 2100) actually comes at the year’s end, starting on December 18, 2017 and ending on January 17, 2018, lasting for 29 days 19 hours and 47 minutes. The longest lunar month (Dec 18, 2016 to Jan 17, 2018) is 7 hours and 3 minutes longer than the mean lunar month, and the shortest lunar month (May 25 to Jun 24) is 5 hours and 58 minutes shorter than the mean lunar month. Added all up, the duration of the longest lunar month in this period of 13 lunar months is 13 hours and 01 minute greater than that of the shortest lunar month. http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/lengths-of-lunar-months-in-2017 Makes me wonder ... was October 22, 1844 calculated on the Julien calendar or the Jewish calendar! Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
Michael144 Posted September 11, 2017 Author Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, B/W Photodude said: There is a slight problem with your calculations. The prophecies of Daniel were written by a Jew..... It's the word of God written by prophets not the word of prophets written by God. Knowledge will increase. Part of that increase of knowledge is we know 1 solar year is 365.242 days. You know, the exact time it takes to go around the sun as set by the creator? Tell us what hour, day, month, and year Revelation 9:15 is hiding then. I just handed it to you on a platter. Stop looking up and look down Quote 1 Corinthians4:5
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted September 11, 2017 Moderators Posted September 11, 2017 Ah. Michael 144, you have just made my point and done it so well. The only criticism that I would have of your post is that some will understand it to be a definitive statement of your belief. Oh, Well. More phkrause 1 Quote Gregory
Michael144 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Posted September 12, 2017 Jonah written on the earth. Notice the location Quote 1 Corinthians4:5
Michael144 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Posted September 12, 2017 We're waiting for the prophecy experts to tell us what hour, day, month, and year Revelation 9:15 is hiding. What country is the Euphrates river in? What country did USA attack after 9/11? How many angels (messengers) were loosed in that river? How many planes on 9/11? Were people slain after 9/11? 1000 years is 1 day 1 day is 1440 minutes Equation yields the 254th day of the first year of a millennium. = 1 prophetic minute 1 day (365.242) is as 1000 years 365.242 divide by 1000 is less than 1 day at 8:45:57 am, the exact time the first plane hit the north tower. Not enough witness for you? 1000 divide by 1440 = Less than 1 year on what day? 0.694444444444444 x 365.242 = Day 253.6402777777778 this 1st prophetic minute has happened 7 times since Adam. 253.6402777777778 x 7 puts you at day 1776 Verse numbers are written in time signature format. 9:15 = 555 The Washington Monument is 555 ft. above ground but most people don't know it's also 111 ft. under ground for a total of 666 ft. 555 ft. = 6,660 inches 666 ft. = 7,992 inches 11/29/47 was day 333 of the year 333 x 24 hours = 7,992 Now start from the very end of 1946 and count forward in sequence 666 hours (27.75 days) 27.75 days x 12 = Day 333 or 11/29/47 keep counting forward 666 hours from day 333 of 1947 and you land on 5/14/1948, the day Israel is born. Keep counting forward 666 hours and you land on the 5th day of the 6 day war in 1967. I'm only required to have 2 witnesses Would you believe Moses if he came back to warn you? You would first be required to believe it was Moses to begin with. God said he would use the base (simple) things of the world to confound the wise. Quote 1 Corinthians4:5
Michael144 Posted September 13, 2017 Author Posted September 13, 2017 The key clue in Revelation 13 is "names of blasphemy" Please explain the 7 names of blasphemy the heads have for us. Then tell us what the hour, day, month, and year is in Revelation 9:15. The mistake prophecy teachers make is they think "names of blasphemy" is an accusation. It's not, it's just a clue. But who is the accuser? Quote 1 Corinthians4:5
JoeMo Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 On 9/11/2017 at 10:39 PM, The Wanderer said: Fiddling around with a bunch of numbers, as in the OP here really does not explain anything. Thats not what God was getting at. "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36, Mark 13:32) "for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape." (1 Thes. 5:2-3) There were/are "mathematical proofs" that Jesus would come in 1843; and then in 1844, and then in 1917, and in 1947, and in 2000 something, in a Shemitah year, in a Jubilee year, on Passover, on Yom Kippur, etc., etc, etc. 1260 days = 1260 years; 1260 days = 1260 literal days, most prophecies in Daniel and Revelation have already been fulfilled, Most prophecies in Daniel and Revelation will be fulfilled in the near future, the Pope is the antichrist, Islam is the antichrist, etc.,etc., etc. So far, throughout history, no one has been (or has been proven) right. I have my own history of pet theories. I have been wrong every time. Bottom line, - we don't know how prophecy will be fulfilled until it is being fulfilled. Quote
8thdaypriest Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 I believe the LORD gave us the description of events to come, and of Beast persecutions, etc. to HELP believers hang on to their faith, while events around them were causing massive distress. He was telling them not to be surprised by those awful things. Those things will happen. And His description of those things helps us to know that He does see the future. He will be there for us - when we meet those future trials. When we actually SEE those things come to pass, we are assured that the END will also be as He described - victory! Through His prophets He has also warned of deception - almost perfect deception, near the END of things. We don't have to perfectly understand the deception. We just need to understand God's LAW along with the grace offered ONLY through Jesus. If we understand those things, then we will recognize any message that does not match up. If a Christ-like "messiah" shows up, who tells everyone that it does not matter which day they "rest" or come up to "worship him" , we will recognize that his message does not match. If he draws all the worship to himself, and does not direct the worship to the Father in Heaven, we will know that does not match up. IF he teaches that all religions are equally "good", we will know that does not match up. We just need to know the basics, and know them well. JoeMo 1 Quote 8thdaypriest
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