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https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/sarah-huckabee-sanders-got-kicked-out-of-a-restaurant-because-of-trump_us_5b2e6ee4e4b0040e27434bdc

I found the below quote very interesting (unrelated to the intent of the author's article)   ...

 

" This has great relevance to Australia, and to the "freedom of religion" that is being pursued by many religious groups.

The problem with this thinking is clearly illustrated in an incident that happened to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. She was asked to leave a restaurant, because the owner had significant disagreement with the morality of the policies she was publicly promoting.

And the thing is, this is *exactly* the kind of treatment that Christians in the US have been lobbying *for*, by demanding the right to refuse to serve gay people.

If Christians gain the right to refuse service to people that they consider to be immoral, then of course this is a right that is going to apply to *all* people.

And there are many, many people in society who feel that the actions and beliefs of *conservative Christians* are immoral.

And so, IF Christians really want to open this door and create a situation in which it is completely legal to refuse to serve people because of their "morality", then we'd better get used to not being served *ourselves*, because that is what is (quite rightly) going to happen! "-a friend

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A large percentage of restaurants go out of business every year. So, given the precarious nature of the economics of running a restaurant, it seems it was pretty foolish of this restaurant to ask Sarah Huckabee Sanders to leave. Chance are this restaurant will go down the tubes for this behavior. But all for a good liberal cause.

Unfortunately, for all the other restaurants with the same name, be it in DC or even up in New Jersey, the blowback is smacking them pretty hard. They are working overtime to distance themselves from the Lexington,VA restaurant of the same name.

It hasn't been a good week for the leftys from this restaurant to Peter Fonda's crude suggestion that Barron spend some time with a pedophile. I hear Barron doesn't really want to be an actor!

So, wonder what they will dream up next!

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19 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

I am sorry; but this is misleading, among other things. It was not Christians who "opened that door."  Christians are not creating this situation. They are fighting back; albeit inappropriately at times, but this was not started by them.

The only situations to be created by Christians is Grace for others.

The Calling is higher from what I see.

but that besides the point.

The gentleman who  wrote this an Ally who is straight and a christian.

Who sees with "Others" eyes. :)

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Now what I got out of this  situation is we cant have Our Nation to have a group denying "buy and sell" to any other group.

Religious or Moral or Tribal  or whatever.

And believe me I am not a fan of Sarah HS ..but we cant have this.

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For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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23 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

A large percentage of restaurants go out of business every year. So, given the precarious nature of the economics of running a restaurant, it seems it was pretty foolish of this restaurant to ask Sarah Huckabee Sanders to leave. Chance are this restaurant will go down the tubes for this behavior. But all for a good liberal cause.

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So, wonder what they will dream up next!

I agree. It isn't good for restaurant businesses.

The public can create a ghost town in a short amount of time.

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I am holding onto my fedora!

 

 

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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Post to the teaming masses, :)

I recognize a puritanical  conscience is to not be violated

Or any other kind.


I do not advocate one violating  any conscience
It is sacred.
What I know will happen in the end of days.. the consciences will shift closer to the Love of God for themselves as unconditional and is the same strength for others.
This kind of love is not center of doctrines/environment  that has formed our tenderest consciences. :(

 

# this otherlove shows up crisply for others :)

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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8 hours ago, GayatfootofCross said:

The gentleman who  wrote this an Ally who is straight and a christian.

Who sees with "Others" eyes. :)

 

 


 

Forgive me.  The Wanderer.

 

 

33 minutes ago, The Wanderer said:

I view this as a pejorative terminology, and something that has nothing to do with the point I was getting at. For you to presume that THAT would matter to me is prejudiced, at best. I have said before, that it is my personal opinion is  that BOTH sides are wrong as they continue to see who can get in the biggest punch to the other side. I would like to ask that you avoid, please, presuming this kind of thing about me in public, without at least trying to verify it; and know for sure what I do think. As far as I know, we are still friends, and I have chosen to post this way, after taking a pause and thinking about how I should respond here. I hope it is clear that I am trying to address ideas and behaviors, and not someone specific. Both sides, constantly judging the other, making pejorative conclusions out to be fact. I refuse to take sides in this. I just say what I think is wrong, and what I think is right.

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PS, I am glad you are just holding onto your fedora. I wouldn't recommend you hold your breath on this one; we still want/need YOU around. :)

 

 

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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Your Dead Horse?

Sorry :(

My parents had one too :(

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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19 hours ago, The Wanderer said:

I view this as a pejorative terminology, and something that has nothing to do with the point I was getting at. For you to presume that THAT would matter to me is prejudiced, at best. I have said before, that it is my personal opinion is  that BOTH sides are wrong as they continue to see who can get in the biggest punch to the other side. I would like to ask that you avoid, please, presuming this kind of thing about me in public, without at least trying to verify it; and know for sure what I do think. As far as I know, we are still friends, and I have chosen to post this way, after taking a pause and thinking about how I should respond here. I hope it is clear that I am trying to address ideas and behaviors, and not someone specific. Both sides, constantly judging the other, making pejorative conclusions out to be fact. I refuse to take sides in this. I just say what I think is wrong, and what I think is right.

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PS, I am glad you are just holding onto your fedora. I wouldn't recommend you hold your breath on this one; we still want/need YOU around. :)

I see that I hurt you and that was not my intent.

I saw I upset you so much :(

 

 I am not a typer/writer/grammar queen or whatever so it lends itself to miscommunication.

I stated what I stated cause it meant something to me ..not as a put down to you or anyone.

 

I actually left out other things about him such as He is SDA and Pro Gay theology online ministry and I read every long thoughtful biblical erring on the side God understands and doesn't trip over these LGBTIQ in church like so many do.::llama::

(uhh not referencing you here either)

If I had said what i wanted to blather about him maybe you would see I wasn't comparing . :)

Me talking about him has nothing to do with  who you are.

I havent seen many  SDA Straight White Ministers(not telling) who puts himself out there with "other eyes". It is usually met with "God and I are offended at your existence and so called rights!!!" eyes

I figured talking more about that guy initially  would stray from the intent of the thread and get commentary off topic.

You have been an Allie here for me and even commented on threads that were getting crickets. :)

It is a rare find in a lil sda box.

:)

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I always type a lot of things here that never get sent thru :) cause I can blather.

 

 

 

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/25/maxine_waters_god_is_on_our_side.html

 

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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:)

well just to be clear...

I wasn't calling you straight. I was letting everyone know that the gentlemen I quoted writes pro gay bible stuff and is not gay was my point.

I do not see that often.

I just messaged him and he said he was never a SDA Minister.

(that's why I said I'll never tell ..I had to be sure :P )

 

Personally ..I like to be called a Sodomite or a Reprobate or An Abomination myself(not online and in context)  just to take me back to church ..and for too much of my life I wanted to be Straight.

Ugh!
Wasted Christian Years!

I read what you have said  :) and understand your point.

The shame  and horror was definitely  given the lil Queers for thousands of years that we are crooked or something is wrong with us.

You definitely have been giving this some serious thought.

Thank you. :)

 

 

 

# I have friends and family that refer to themselves as straight if there needs to be an distinction. :)

And Herb Montgomery calls us "non normative".

 

 

 

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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And thank you for the lil peace offering.

My fav colours!

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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Appreciated these comments from both sides!

10 minutes :)

 

 

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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You know whatever you may believe that deal with sexual matters we cannot forget, YAHSHUA saves and not us. I will leave it at that!

I love Congress Woman Walters but what she said is not the way to deal with Trump. Organized! I would love to see all of the organizational movements today come together like an army to stand up to the outward wrongs that are taken place. My mother always said; "Two wrongs don't make it right!" It is not right to go after people like a gang to scream at them in the public. Our first Amendment right is to organize, let them know like many are doing today about those children! But we must organize and vote! I know we are living in perilous time, THE SAVIOUR has not come yet and we must always stand up for religious freedom and that include racism.

Now the woman in the restaurant, pull Sarah aside! She did try to embarrass her but she felt she could not serve her because of the children. Sarah lied about those children too and this woman has to be a mother and it bother her deeply. Now, I would not have done it, but sometime people just let their hurt make them do wrong decisions. I think if she could take it back, she would! We must learn when and how to fight for our rights and this is not the way to do it. Organize, and vote! Now I do take a side and that is the right side, which is freedom of choice! However, I cannot force people to think or to believe the way I do. However, living in a society of so many different beliefs, ethnicity, sexual orientation among other things; the Bible says to be wise like serpent and humble as a dove.

I do not believe in taking up for sin, but I must love the sinner and hate the sin! THE ALMIGHTY have Laws and man has laws and we must render to Caesar as long as it does not come in conflict with THE ALMIGHTY'S Laws! What is taking place today does! Especially separating children from their parents; people who are only seeking amnesty. Racism is a sin of the worst kind along with mistreating children and we must speak out. We speak out by organizing and voting!

Happy Sabbath and be Bless!

 

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Well to be even more off topic...

I finally found that blog of the guy I  most humbly mentioned earlier.

This is his latest.

 

https://wayneisthinking.wordpress.com/2018/07/15/three-prophets/

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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Two wrongs don't make it right!

But three lefts do!?

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On 6/23/2018 at 6:26 PM, GayatfootofCross said:

And the thing is, this is *exactly* the kind of treatment that Christians in the US have been lobbying *for*, by demanding the right to refuse to serve gay people.

Being refused service by known conservative Christian establishments is exactly why activist gay people and organizations target them - so they can sue and put out of business those refusing them service.  Why can't they let market forces take care of it?  If enough gay and pro gay rights people boycott the anti-gay business, it will go bankrupt.  I hope the place that refused service to Sarah suffers financial devastation for their discriminatory behavior because the market they serve finds their partisanism unacceptable - not because Sarah should sue them.  Most of the gay people I know here in CO are NOT gay activists.  They want to be accepted; but they don't flaunt their gayness by purposely targeting anti-gay merchants to harass or marching half naked in gay pride parades. They want to live their lives in the same privacy most of us desire. As a Christian, I would not go into a Muslim bakery requesting a cake with a picture of Jesus and a cross on top saying "Jesus Saves"  simply out of respect for the Muslims' religious beliefs.  Why can't gay activists avoid targeting anti-gay merchants out of respect for their religious beliefs?  Tolerance works two ways.

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1 hour ago, JoeMo said:

But three lefts do!?

You are so funny Joe!?

Blessings!

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Being refused service by known conservative Christian establishments is exactly why activist gay people and organizations target them - so they can sue and put out of business those refusing them service.  Why can't they let market forces take care of it?  If enough gay and pro gay rights people boycott the anti-gay business, it will go bankrupt.  I hope the place that refused service to Sarah suffers financial devastation for their discriminatory behavior because the market they serve finds their partisanism unacceptable - not because Sarah should sue them.  Most of the gay people I know here in CO are NOT gay activists.  They want to be accepted; but they don't flaunt their gayness by purposely targeting anti-gay merchants to harass or marching half naked in gay pride parades. They want to live their lives in the same privacy most of us desire. As a Christian, I would not go into a Muslim bakery requesting a cake with a picture of Jesus and a cross on top saying "Jesus Saves"  simply out of respect for the Muslims' religious beliefs.  Why can't gay activists avoid targeting anti-gay merchants out of respect for their religious beliefs?  Tolerance works two ways.

That would be nice but we live in a real world. Now the woman, I don't think you are being fair. I did not hear she said anything about gay rights. I think she was upset about the children and her lying. She did not try to embarrass her, she call her quietly to the side and ask her to leave, she could not serve her. You know I blame Trump for all this mess except the cake and the gay couple. It is hard for me, but I believe that everybody should be treated the same. The reason is being black and the way I have been treated and other people have different religion or skin color. I have been in many Muslim places, have you taste those bean pies? I treat them as people not what the believe. I eat in Asian restaurants and many of them are either Hindu or Buddhist and you tell when enter the restaurant. Or Mexicans who are Catholic and other people of other faith. Some restaurants can be owned by an atheist, how would you know?

Here my though on the matter, if you want run a restaurant in the public we need to respect freedom of choice. I would have made the cake and said to them please pick out what you want to place on the cake and I let them place it on it themselves. There are some of my employees who might be gay that can decorate the cake. We to me must allow this be between THE MOST HIGH and that person. If a gay person comes and apply for a job, would you turn him or her down? I wouldn't because their sexual preferences is their choice and not mine! 

Blessings!

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14 hours ago, JoeMo said:

Being refused service by known conservative Christian establishments is exactly why activist gay people and organizations target them - so they can sue and put out of business those refusing them service.  Why can't they let market forces take care of it?  If enough gay and pro gay rights people boycott the anti-gay business, it will go bankrupt.  I hope the place that refused service to Sarah suffers financial devastation for their discriminatory behavior because the market they serve finds their partisanism unacceptable - not because Sarah should sue them.  Most of the gay people I know here in CO are NOT gay activists.  They want to be accepted; but they don't flaunt their gayness by purposely targeting anti-gay merchants to harass or marching half naked in gay pride parades. They want to live their lives in the same privacy most of us desire. As a Christian, I would not go into a Muslim bakery requesting a cake with a picture of Jesus and a cross on top saying "Jesus Saves"  simply out of respect for the Muslims' religious beliefs.  Why can't gay activists avoid targeting anti-gay merchants out of respect for their religious beliefs?  Tolerance works two ways.

 

I believe we see Jesus' Serving Love differently. :)

But let's face it..with my food issues I wanted Sarah to get her fried chicken and biscuit. 

14 hours ago, JoeMo said:

  Why can't gay activists avoid targeting anti-gay merchants out of respect for their religious beliefs?  Tolerance works two ways.

 

Seeing any one group or individual target another one on both sides make my heart hurt.

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They want to live their lives in the same privacy most of us desire.

Yes definitely! ..  and get married and live their lives and etc.

Most do desire.

:D

For all Eternity God waited in anticipation for  You  to show up to give You a Message - YOUR INCLUDED !!! { a merry dance }?️‍?

" If you tarry 'til you're better
You will never come at all "   .. "I Will Rise" by the late great saved  Glen Campbell

If your picture of God is starting to feel too good to be true, you're starting to move in the right direction. :candle:

  

"My bounty is as boundless as the sea,
My love as deep; the more I give to thee,
The more I have, for both are infinite."

Romeo and Juliet

 

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