Government Shutdown

[Gregory Matthews]

IF President Trump shuts down the government on the 22nd:

While hundreds of thousands of employees would be locked out of work, a large number of federal employees will still show up for work to keep our government running. They just have to work without pay. According to new numbers from the office of Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Patrick Leahy, we’re talking 420,000 employees. A few examples:  

 

41,000 law enforcement officers   

• 2,614 ATF agents 

• 16,742 Bureau of Prisons correctional officers 

• 13,709 FBI agents 

• 3,600 deputy U.S. Marshals 

• 4,399 DEA agents 

 

158,000 Department of Homeland Security employees 

• 53,000 TSA Employees; 

• 54,000 Customs and Border Protection agents and customs offers; 

• 42,000 Coast Guard employees 

• As many as 5,000 Forest Service Firefighters 

• 3,600 Weather Service Forecasters 

 

More than 380,000 employees will be locked out of work without pay 

A few examples: 

• 86% of the Department of Commerce (about 41,000 employees), 

• 96% of NASA (about 16,700 employees) 

• More than 80% of the National Park Service (about 16,000 employees) 

• At least 80% of the Forest Service (approximately 28,800 employees) 

• More than 30% of the Department of Transportation (about 18,300 employees) 

• 95% of the Housing and Urban Development (about 7,100 employees) 

• About 52,000 IRS employees 

 

In addition, nine out of 15 Cabinet-level departments and dozens of agencies will close. Small businesses, farmers, homeowners, low-income children, and rural communities are among the people who would be affected. See the full list here. 

[Narcah]

So fund the wall? ?

[Gregory Matthews]

The package that the House approved amounted to more than 18 billion dollars.  None of it was funded.  Where do you think that will come from.  Do you really want us to go into more debt.

In addition, it is agreed that the Wall will ultimately cost much more than the 5 billion dollars that has been mentioned.

Again, . . . .?

 

[rudywoofs (Pam)]

it's not as if Trump has been the only POTUS to have a govt shutdown during his tenure:

Gerald Ford: (10 days total)  30 Sept - 10 Oct 1976

Jimmy Carter:  (56 days total)  30 Sept - 13 Oct 1977; 31 Oct - 9 Nov 1977; 30 Nov - 9 Dec 1977; 30 Sept - 18 Oct 1978; 30 Sept - 12 Oct 1979

Ronald Reagan:  (14 days total)  20 Nov - 23 Nov 1981; 30 Sept - 2 Oct 1982; 17 Dec - 21 Dec 1982; 10 Nov - 14 Nov 1983; 30 Sep - 3 Oct 1984; 3 Oct - 5 Oct 1984; 16 Oct - 18 Oct 1986; 18 Dec - 20 Dec 1987

George HW Bush:  (4 days total)  5 Oct - 9 Oct 1990

Bill Clinton:  (26 days total)  13 Nov - 19 Nov 1995; 15 Dec 1995 - 6 Jan 1996 (longest shutdown in U.S. History)

George W. Bush:  NONE

Barack Obama:  (17 days total) 30 Sept - 17 Oct 2013

Donald Trump:  (4 days total)  20 Jan - 22 Jan 2018; 22 Dec - ??