Taking God's Name in Vain

[JoeMo]

The link below is a "different" take on taking the Lord's Name in vain by a Jew.  I checked the Hebrew lexicon cited by the guy in the video; and he was correct.  The Hebrew word for "take" in the Commandment actually means "take up" or "carry".  Not saying he's 100% correct; but it made sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUxDwJo8Svc

 

[stinsonmarri]

On 12/19/2018 at 11:21 AM, JoeMo said:

The link below is a "different" take on taking the Lord's Name in vain by a Jew.  I checked the Hebrew lexicon cited by the guy in the video; and he was correct.  The Hebrew word for "take" in the Commandment actually means "take up" or "carry".  Not saying he's 100% correct; but it made sense.

Joe: I would check out the lexicon myself and look up the word vain! Look it up in English etymology dictionary too. Now compare it with Ex 3:15 and see what word should be used. Can you check it out then get back with me?

Blessings!

[JoeMo]

"God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’

“This is my name forever,
    the name you shall call me
    from generation to generation." (Ex. 3:15)

I don't see what you want me to compare here, Marri.  The word "vain" does not appear in Ex. 3:15.

I did look up the word vain in the Lexicon,  In Ex. 3:15, the Hebrew word translated as "vain" ("sheqer") means "falsehood".  I also looked up the word "name" in the Lexicon [shem] as used in the 3rd Commandment.  It means  "name" or "renown" (fame?)  I am no linguist; but - given what I read in the lexicon, the 3rd commandment should read something like "Thou shalt not take up [or carry] the fame [or reputation]  of Jehovah in falsehood".  Could this mean breaking the other Commandments in the name of the Lord - like killing someone in God's (or Allah's) name?  Like what happened in the Crusades or with ISIS?

[stinsonmarri]

7 hours ago, JoeMo said:

"God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’

“This is my name forever,
    the name you shall call me
    from generation to generation." (Ex. 3:15)

I don't see what you want me to compare here, Marri.  The word "vain" does not appear in Ex. 3:15.

I did look up the word vain in the Lexicon,  In Ex. 3:15, the Hebrew word translated as "vain" ("sheqer") means "falsehood".  I also looked up the word "name" in the Lexicon [shem] as used in the 3rd Commandment.  It means  "name" or "renown" (fame?)  I am no linguist; but - given what I read in the lexicon, the 3rd commandment should read something like "Thou shalt not take up [or carry] the fame [or reputation]  of Jehovah in falsehood".  Could this mean breaking the other Commandments in the name of the Lord - like killing someone in God's (or Allah's) name?  Like what happened in the Crusades or with ISIS?

Joe: Thank very much, this is when I prefer the Strong because it gives a better explanation. Then he gives you the root words that help to simplify and understand even better.

I AM   אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה      WHO  אֲשֶׁ֣ר     I AM     אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה

          (eh·yeh)           (a·sher)           (eh·yeh)

The Hebrew text reads: ’eheyeh ’asher ’eheyeh, the word ’eheyeh being derived from hayah which means to be, to exist, but the Aramaic text here reads: ayah ashar ayah. Hebrew Morphology: the grammatical first-person form of hyh/hwh.

   יְהוָ֞ה

(Yah·weh)  1933b from havah (hâvâ,'   hâvâh haw-vaw', haw-vaw'); the root H1962 hâyâh haw-yaw'

Yehovah / Jehovah is a miss-vocalization of THE DIVINE NAME, a mistake created either in the Middle Ages or later in 1518 under Pope Leo X.

Peter Galatin is the one credited with popularizing the name Jehovah. He was confessor to Pope Leo the 10th. The Oxford English Dictionary identifies his first use of the term “Jehovah” in the year 1516, in De Arcanis Catholic Veritatis. Joseph Rotherham has this to say about "Jehovah's" origins:

The pronunciation Jehovah was unknown until 1520 when it was introduced by Galatinus; but was contested by Le Mercier, J. Drusius, and L. Capellus, as against grammatical and historical propriety.

H8034

shêm

shame

A primitive word (perhaps rather from H7760 through the idea of definite and conspicuous position; compare H8064); an appellation, as a mark or memorial of individuality; by implication honor, authority, character: -  + base, [in-] fame [-ous], name (-d), renown, report. (REKNOWN NAME)

H8064

shâmayim    shâmeh

shaw-mah'-yim, shaw-meh'

The second form being dual of an unused singular; from an unused root meaning to be lofty; the sky (as aloft; the dual perhaps alluding to the visible arch in which the clouds move, as well as to the higher ether where the celestial bodies revolve): - air, X astrologer, heaven (-s). Strong Hebrew Dictionary

I truly enjoy discussing things with you because you check things out kindly. Knowledge comes from searching and comparing until you find the truth! Secondly, you have a good humble mind and appreciate the discussion even if there are disagreements. Can I tell you a secret all disagreements can be turned into an agreement with the right knowledge of understanding!?

Blessings!