Do Not Disturb

[Gregory Matthews]

Friday, those birds were not in our waterfall.

As my wife says, It looks like we will not be turning on our waterfall for the next few weeks.

 

[Gregory Matthews]

[Gregory Matthews]

The age old question:

According to Global Britannica, although the terms dove and pigeon are often used interchangeably, there are differences between the two species. Doves typically have smaller bodies and bigger tails than pigeons. But there is an exception: the domestic pigeon, which is often called a rock dove and also known as the "dove of peace." Pigeons and doves belong to the same family, Columbidae, and have many similar features.

Generally, both pigeons and doves have thick, round bodies, short necks and short, slim beaks. They also have small, rounded heads and small, scaly legs. They tend to feed on plants, fruits and seeds, with seeds being their main diet. Young doves and pigeons are called squabs. There are over 300 species of doves and pigeons in the Columbidae family, but each species has its own unique style or sound of cooing or crooning. Every country in the world except Antarctica has pigeons or doves.

Though they belong to the bird class, doves and pigeons are unlike most other birds. Both the male and the female of Columbidae species produce milk for their young. Their milk is called crop milk. It contains a higher level of protein and fat than the milk produced by mammals.

[Gregory Matthews]

Breaking news will follow later as I report on a mutual assistance conference we have had at the request of the birds.

[phkrause]

Those would be Mourning Doves!

[Gregory Matthews]

Report on our  mutual meeting with the birds, as they had requested.  It included the following complaints on their part:

*  They suggested that we had been deceptive.  "They had built their nest yesterday without any notice of people looking at them.  Then today people are constantly observing them.  I responded by telling them that yesterday had been our Sabbath, and we had been out and about doing good all day.  Today we had been home doing good.

*  They pointed out that they had tolerated our photography.  (The male asked me if I had noticed his glaring at me when I photographed them.)  They wanted assurance that there would be no photographs of the chicks*.  I responded by telling them that as they had built their nest by our front door, it was likely that the word would  get out and the chicks would be photographed.

*  I then pointed out that we had let a contract on some work to be done on our house and probably about the time there were chicks that had hatched, contractors would be working hard, and with noise, in the area of their nest.

*  The birds thanked me for my openness and stated that they would get back to me with a response.  I informed them that if they left they would be welcome to drink from our water fountain when it was turned on.  They pointed out that they already could drink from the fountain in our back yard.

I will keep you informed as we have more breaking news. 

*  They were not aware that in English their chicks are called squabs.

[phkrause]

23 minutes ago, The Wanderer said:

They do not keep the Sabbath

Talking about keeping the Sabbath. There was a guy on 3ABN or one of the other stations that was studying beavers and found, at least the family he was researching, for about 10+ years. That they didn't work on the Sabbath.

[Gregory Matthews]

Braking news:

The birds have packed up and left for a more quiet (I assume) and private place to have a family.

No eggs had been laid in yet, so there were no young.

We do have another place associated with the roof of our house where birds build a nest every year.  They may build their nest elsewhere on our property.

Anyway, we wish them well.  It is just that building a nest near our front door is not conducive to peace and quiet.

 

 

[Gregory Matthews]

So, you are telling me that for some 500+ Sabbaths he spent the Sabbath day watching beavers to see if he could determine whether or not they worked--however he defined beaver work!

I wonder how much daily time he actually spent on site?  Was it 12 hours a day?

I would like to know more about what appears to me to be a pious myth.

Well, I guess that he did not get much of a Sabbath blessing for that 10-year period of time.

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Talking about keeping the Sabbath. There was a guy on 3ABN or one of the other stations that was studying beavers and found, at least the family he was researching, for about 10+ years. That they didn't work on the Sabbath.

[B/W Photodude]

4 hours ago, Gregory Matthews said:

So, you are telling me that for some 500+ Sabbaths he spent the Sabbath day watching beavers to see if he could determine whether or not they worked--however he defined beaver work!

I wonder how much daily time he actually spent on site?  Was it 12 hours a day?

I would like to know more about what appears to me to be a pious myth.

Well, I guess that he did not get much of a Sabbath blessing for that 10-year period of time.

Some researchers can spend years watching one small group of animals in the quest to know more about them. Some get dedicated to even very small subgroups of insects. I have known one who was a serious student of the Darkling beetles, a group of fused wing beetles. Jane Goodall spent years with primates in Africa. I guess you have to be a biologist to understand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkling_beetle

There is a thought that animals being allowed to rest on the Sabbath shows a acknowledgement of the dignity of the animals. It is even commanded in the 4th commandment that animals not be made to work. But it seems even in nature, unmolested by humans, animals recognize at times the Sabbath day.

Beavers that rest on Saturday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49T5unQEIbY

Here is the Cole's website:

http://www.desiremedia.org/Seventh_Day_Beaver.html

One scholarly article on animals and the Sabbath that I was unable to fork over $19.00 to download.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26424677?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Do Birds Take A Sabbath Rest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwayR5gkh7c

Horses That Keep the Sabbath

https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/horses-that-keep-the-sabbath

SABBATH KEEPING BEES

http://www.adventistonline.com/group/healthatthecellularlevel/forum/topics/sabbath-keeping-bees-in-brazil

And I got to learn about the Circaseptan Rythm!

Circaseptan Rhythm

The most intriguing of all biological rhythms are those set to a clock of about seven days. In his chapter "The Importance of Time," Jeremy Campbell reports: "These circaseptan, or about weekly, rhythms are one of the major surprises turned up by modern chronobiology. Fifteen years ago, few scientists would have expected that seven-day biological cycles would prove to be so widespread and so long established in the living world. They are of very ancient origin, appearing in primitive one-celled organisms, and are thought to be present even in bacteria, the simplest form of life now existing." [Jeremy Campbell, Winston Churchill's Afternoon Nap, (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1986), p. 75]

And now I will be in even more awe of the Sabbath day. I also suspect that the beaver watcher was also very blessed to be a part of the discovery of animals keeping the Sabbath.

[Gregory Matthews]

LATE BREAKING NEWS:

To recap where we were yesterday:  After some conferences with my me the birds packed up and left without laying any eggs.  I then removed the partially completed nest and turned the water fountain on.

The birds returned this morning.  We then had a discussion.

*  The male bird began by suggesting that out of respect we should address him a Nagahh and the female bird as 'Ahab.

*  I commented that I had thought that they had left and were not going to return.  Nagahh commented that he had expended great effort in attempting to understand my language and culture and out of fairness to  them, I should to the same as far as understanding their language and culture.

*  Nagahh noted that following their departure, I had failed to build a nest in the area in which they had left.  So, from their cultural perspective, they had every right to return.  If they left again they would expect me to make some effort to inhabit the place from which they had departed.

*  Nagahh also noted that he was offended by that fact that yesterday I had failed to show them respect by not approaching them closer than 3 feet.  But, he acknowledged my increasing respect in getting my face into a position 8 inches from his beak. So, he saw that as good intentions on my part.

*  I mentioned that some observers had wondered if his nest building on the Sabbath had been appropriate.   He responded to the effect that as a human it was beyond my ability to understand El Elyon and he was not going to attempt the impossible.

*  At that point, Nagahh departed the scene.  I filled the top of the waterfall with water. I have gone about my business.

 

NOTE:  One of the birds has just returned to inspect the water fall to see, I suppose, If I have established a nest in it and  what it looks like.  I will keep you all informed.

 

 

 

[Gregory Matthews]

Yes they are welcome to do so.

[B/W Photodude]

9 hours ago, B/W Photodude said:

Circaseptan Rhythm

The most intriguing of all biological rhythms are those set to a clock of about seven days. In his chapter "The Importance of Time," Jeremy Campbell reports: "These circaseptan, or about weekly, rhythms are one of the major surprises turned up by modern chronobiology. Fifteen years ago, few scientists would have expected that seven-day biological cycles would prove to be so widespread and so long established in the living world. They are of very ancient origin, appearing in primitive one-celled organisms, and are thought to be present even in bacteria, the simplest form of life now existing." [Jeremy Campbell, Winston Churchill's Afternoon Nap, (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1986), p. 75]

It would be kool to actually scientifically validate the circuseptan rythm. If validated, they could go look for animal species on this rhythm over there where they are in a tug of war over sunday-saturday as the day of the Sabbath in the  south pacific. Then they might really know what day the Sabbath is!

[phkrause]

Thanks for the post B/W!! That was the guy and part of the video. If I'm not mistaken he is also a pastor????? But am not positive.

[phkrause]

Well I was watching "Dare to Dream" on 3ABN and they were interviewing Larren Cole, the guy who was observing the beavers!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObttQhcCjlU

And while searching for this video, I came across this interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrI2dyHp_cI

Did not watch this one as of yet, so not sure how much is the same as the first one??