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Isn't it a bit cynical to offer talks to Iran on condition that she stops doing the thing that is the main point of contention.

Its like the hostage taker saying "we will only negotiate your surrender if you first surrender"

Isnt the state department cynically trying to get Iran to say no so that they can say they have exhaused all the diplomatic channels and move to sanctions and then war?

A bit more detailed info on this link...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5037678.stm

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

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Except you've got it exactly backwards. Iran wants to hold the whole world hostage with nuclear weapons. Iran broke the treaty by taking US hostages, and Iran is in violation of both the non-proliferation treaty and UN resolutions. Iran continually funds Hezbollah, one of the worst terrorist organizations.

Iran has been seeking to "normalize" relations, which these talks would begin, without "normalizing" her behavior.

So you've got it exactly right, except backwards.

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My point is not that Iran is the good guy in all of this but that the Bush administraion is not making a genuine attempt to negotiate but using the offer to counter criticism that it has not used diplomatic means to resolve the conflict.

Tony Snow admitted today that hey knew that Iran would reject the offer but they are hoping for a roll back on the position. My guess is that they do not really expect a rollback. Next step security council.

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

Einstein

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