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Doing some study into Matthew 5:17-19.  I didn't realize that Christ used 2 different words. 

"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.

Did Christ fulfill TORAH?  Answer:  Yes!  He was obedient unto death.  He perfectly fulfilled the terms of the covenant and will therefore legally receive the reward of the covenant - the land. 

"Fulfill" - Strong's #4137, meaning to accomplish or to complete. 

Matthew 5:18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law, until all is accomplished."

"Accomplished" - Strong's #1096, meaning: to come into being, to happen, to become.

Two different words are used. 

One tells us that Christ would accomplish something, or complete something.  (Jesus cried out "it is finished".) 

The other word tells us that something will happen.  Something will come into being.  And the NEW thing will not come into being UNTIL this present "heaven and earth" "pass away". 

What will be "new" once this present "heaven and earth" have passed away?   Is it not the "new heavens and a new earth" (Isa 65:17, Isa 66:22, 2Peter 3:13)? 

It seems obvious that some things will "pass away from the Law" WHEN "heaven and earth pass away".  Many Messianics and HR folks are preaching that nothing WILL EVER pass away from TORAH - that it will go on unchanged forever - even when Christ creates new heavens and the New Earth.  

UNTIL this world is passed away

Matthew 5:19 "Whoever then annuls (removes) one of the least of these commandments, and so teaches others, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

The LORD has instituted the Melchizedek priesthood as present reality.   That priesthood exists now, as the only means of reconciliation (atonement) with GOD.  But did the LORD annul or remove the Levite priesthood?  That's the question. 

Did the LORD simply add the Melchizedek priesthood to the Levite priesthood???  What about all those folks during James day who were "zealous for the Law" and continued to offer animal sacrifices?  What about Christ's statement that "not a jot or a tittle" would "pass from the Law til all is accomplished". 

Yes - I know the LORD allowed the destruction of that Temple, and access to a Levite priesthood has been impossible for almost 2000 years.  But what IF a Temple is restored on the Mount? 

When/if the LORD allows the building of a new Temple on the Mount, and when/if Levite priests are consecrated for that Temple - would it then be a sin to go there and offer sacrifices.  Those believers in Yeshua (assuming they are even allowed to do so, which I doubt) would do so as a memorial to Him.  They will do so because they are seeking to fulfill TORAH.  I don't believe the LORD would punish them for such. 

I also do not believe the LORD will punish those genuine believers who choose NOT to offer animal sacrifices, because of their beliefs - especially those who live far from the territory of Israel. 

When/if another Temple is restored on the Mount, it will only last for a short time.   We don't know how long between the inauguration of that Temple and the appearance of the Antichrist in that Temple.  He will sit in that Temple, "showing himself that he is God".   His army "will take away the daily sacrifices and place there the abomination that makes desolate" .    After that, it may only be months (perhaps 42) before Christ returns. 

THEN - in the New Earth,  parts will "pass from the TORAH".   There will be no ritual animal killings.

I'm just saying that we can cut our Messianic or Hebrew Roots brothers some slack. 

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On 12/15/2019 at 3:34 PM, 8thdaypriest said:

Doing some study into Matthew 5:17-19.  I didn't realize that Christ used 2 different words. 

"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.

Did Christ fulfill TORAH?  Answer:  Yes!  He was obedient unto death.  He perfectly fulfilled the terms of the covenant and will therefore legally receive the reward of the covenant - the land. 

"Fulfill" - Strong's #4137, meaning to accomplish or to complete. 

Matthew 5:18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law, until all is accomplished."

"Accomplished" - Strong's #1096, meaning: to come into being, to happen, to become.

Two different words are used. 

One tells us that Christ would accomplish something, or complete something.  (Jesus cried out "it is finished".) 

The other word tells us that something will happen.  Something will come into being.  And the NEW thing will not come into being UNTIL this present "heaven and earth" "pass away". 

What will be "new" once this present "heaven and earth" have passed away?   Is it not the "new heavens and a new earth" (Isa 65:17, Isa 66:22, 2Peter 3:13)? 

It seems obvious that some things will "pass away from the Law" WHEN "heaven and earth pass away".  Many Messianics and HR folks are preaching that nothing WILL EVER pass away from TORAH - that it will go on unchanged forever - even when Christ creates new heavens and the New Earth.  

UNTIL this world is passed away

Matthew 5:19 "Whoever then annuls (removes) one of the least of these commandments, and so teaches others, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

The LORD has instituted the Melchizedek priesthood as present reality.   That priesthood exists now, as the only means of reconciliation (atonement) with GOD.  But did the LORD annul or remove the Levite priesthood?  That's the question. 

Did the LORD simply add the Melchizedek priesthood to the Levite priesthood???  What about all those folks during James day who were "zealous for the Law" and continued to offer animal sacrifices?  What about Christ's statement that "not a jot or a tittle" would "pass from the Law til all is accomplished". 

Yes - I know the LORD allowed the destruction of that Temple, and access to a Levite priesthood has been impossible for almost 2000 years.  But what IF a Temple is restored on the Mount? 

When/if the LORD allows the building of a new Temple on the Mount, and when/if Levite priests are consecrated for that Temple - would it then be a sin to go there and offer sacrifices.  Those believers in Yeshua (assuming they are even allowed to do so, which I doubt) would do so as a memorial to Him.  They will do so because they are seeking to fulfill TORAH.  I don't believe the LORD would punish them for such. 

I also do not believe the LORD will punish those genuine believers who choose NOT to offer animal sacrifices, because of their beliefs - especially those who live far from the territory of Israel. 

When/if another Temple is restored on the Mount, it will only last for a short time.   We don't know how long between the inauguration of that Temple and the appearance of the Antichrist in that Temple.  He will sit in that Temple, "showing himself that he is God".   His army "will take away the daily sacrifices and place there the abomination that makes desolate" .    After that, it may only be months (perhaps 42) before Christ returns. 

THEN - in the New Earth,  parts will "pass from the TORAH".   There will be no ritual animal killings.

I'm just saying that we can cut our Messianic or Hebrew Roots brothers some slack. 

Rachel: You are not THE MOST HIGH it is not your decision, it is HIS! We are created beings and continually think we can second guess our CREATORS, you can't! Nothing will be taken from THE WORD OF YAHWEH it cannot be change whatsoever comes from HIS LIPS, HE CHANGES NOT! That is what the Bible says and that is what I stand on. Not any of cause we cannot change anything!

Blessings!

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Fascinating ideas, Rachel!  

(And FWIW, I didn't see any place in your OP where you were setting yourself up as "THE MOST HIGH" ... ridiculous accusation, imo)

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Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others?

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