Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted January 26, 2020 Moderators Posted January 26, 2020 See: https://atoday.org/what-adventists-say-about-climate-change/ “It’s a way to introduce Sunday laws.” This is a specific implementation of the sign-of-the-end notion, and one that could only have come from the fecund brains of pope-obsessed Adventists. In May of 2015 Pope Francis issued an encyclical about the environment, saying in passing that “Sunday, like the Jewish Sabbath, is meant to be a day which heals our relationships with God, with ourselves, with others and with the world.” Now, to be clear, Francis was saying he wants people to be in church on Sunday, just as we want people in church on Saturday. Francis makes no demands or threats: it is an observation, a pastoral encouragement. There is little chance that our secular world is going to shut down every Sunday any more than it already does. And if businesses should close on Sunday, what is that to us? We worship on Saturday. Francis’ mention of the Jewish Sabbath—the one we keep—should ease our minds. We might even applaud his saying that the Sabbath heals our relationship with the earth, since Sabbath and nature traditionally go together for us, too. But as an opportunity for fleecing the fearful faithful, it was too good to pass up. The conspiracists turned it into “The Pope is using climate change as an excuse to get world governments to institute Sunday laws.” If only Francis could know what a gift he gave Seventh-day Adventists! With one sentence he raised not just our self-righteous ire, but millions of dollars for Adventist evangelists. Strangely, the pope’s exalted place in our prophetic scheme makes him an inspired voice among us. Many Adventists take as seriously every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the pope as those from the mouth of God. The Bible says not a thing about Sunday laws, national or worldwide. It does say much about not living in fear, and about not willfully misinterpreting the words of others. phkrause and pierrepaul 1 1 Quote Gregory
BlessedMan Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 6:16 PM, Gregory Matthews said: “It’s a way to introduce Sunday laws.” This is a specific implementation of the sign-of-the-end notion, and one that could only have come from the fecund brains of pope-obsessed Adventists. In May of 2015 Pope Francis issued an encyclical about the environment, saying in passing that “Sunday, like the Jewish Sabbath, is meant to be a day which heals our relationships with God, with ourselves, with others and with the world.” Well, one "fecund brain" to another I respectufully suggest this dude knows not what he is talking about. That Sunday comment was not parenthetical afterthought by any stretch. Maybe he has too much "fecund" ALL the time. On many fronts. I am not a conspiracy freak by any stretch. The church hasnt told to or paid me to say this. I studied this on my own, and and its impossible to miss all thats going on or how consistently and artfully the Pope actually does bring this up. NOTE: The above quote actually came from the article. I quoted it. I did not say it--Gregory Matthews.. Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
Gustave Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 12:32 AM, BlessedMan said: Well, one "fecund brain" to another I respectufully suggest this dude knows not what he is talking about. That Sunday comment was not parenthetical afterthought by any stretch. Maybe he has too much "fecund" ALL the time. On many fronts. I am not a conspiracy freak by any stretch. The church hasnt told to or paid me to say this. I studied this on my own, and and its impossible to miss all thats going on or how consistently and artfully the Pope actually does bring this up. NOTE: The above quote actually came from the article. I quoted it. I did not say it--Gregory Matthews.. It has to be admitted that the Pope does have an exalted place in the SDA Prophetic Schema. As being the President of the largest Church in the world you'd think at that level some degree of art would be leveraged in making statements. Catholic = 1.3 Billion Orthodox = 270 Million Starts dropping pretty fast after this. Quote
BlessedMan Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gustave said: It has to be admitted that the Pope does have an exalted place in the SDA Prophetic Schema. He has nothing to do with my "schema! And who cares about those numbers? Really? Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
Gustave Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, BlessedMan said: He has nothing to do with my "schema! And who cares about those numbers? Really? I think the article and Gregory were referencing the SDA prophetic schema and not independent views of it. Quote
BlessedMan Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 11 hours ago, Gustave said: I think the article and Gregory were referencing the SDA prophetic schema and not independent views of it. Apparently, some guy named "Gustave" stated the numbers I was referring to. 11 hours ago, Gustave said: It has to be admitted that the Pope does have an exalted place in the SDA Prophetic Schema. As being the President of the largest Church in the world you'd think at that level some degree of art would be leveraged in making statements. Catholic = 1.3 Billion Orthodox = 270 Million Starts dropping pretty fast after this. Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
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