Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted April 26, 2020 Moderators Posted April 26, 2020 See: https://conversation.spectrummagazine.org/t/you-will-never-understand-racism-like-i-do/20073 When I served on the teaching faculty of the U.S. Army Chaplain school, I had to deal with this subject in my classes. My approach was to tell the students: * To listen. * To not get defensive. * To begin with the approach that if you were accused of being a sexist/racist, there was some part of your relationship that you needed to change. I do not say that the professor at Andrews was a racist. I can say that his reported response, if accurate, failed both the student and failed his responsibilities as a Professor at Andrews. phkrause 1 Quote Gregory
Gustave Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 Well, anyone who has taken even a little Science will know that Stereotypes are real, otherwise they wouldn't be Stereotypes. I've known / worked with some folks (even some friends) who were what I would call "professional victims" that would play the part of an ambush predator and jump all over an innocent situation. That being said your bulleted protocols are a good mitigation if one finds themselves in that situation. Quote
B/W Photodude Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Gregory Matthews said: * To begin with the approach that if you were accused of being a sexist/racist, there was some part of your relationship that you needed to change. I would offer a different viewpoint on this. Sometimes the "race card" gets used to gain an advantage over someone of a different race, usually white. Really annoying when someone tries this to gain the advantage. The link is to an example where this was tried on a professor at Andrews: https://adventistan.com/forums/topic/77294-an-outrage-mob-begins-at-au-and-reaches-the-internet/ 23 minutes ago, Gustave said: Well, anyone who has taken even a little Science will know that Stereotypes are real, otherwise they wouldn't be Stereotypes. Stereotypes are a two way street. And perjorative names also get used going both ways also. Gustave and BlessedMan 2 Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
BlessedMan Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said: I would offer a different viewpoint on this. Sometimes the "race card" gets used to gain an advantage over someone of a different race, usually white. Really annoying when someone tries this to gain the advantage. Yup. I am all-too familiar with this on a personal level where a bunch of black students would go around the school, cornering white students in wash rooms etc and pounding them out, and then drawing the race card should the said white student try to defend themselves. YES. This was at a church school. Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
B/W Photodude Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, BlessedMan said: Yup. I am all-too familiar with this on a personal level where a bunch of black students would go around the school ... I recall walking into a patients room in the hospital one time and two black respiratory therapists did not observe that I had walked in behind them. (I often walk quietly and come up behind people when they had no idea. I should put bells on my shoes like I did for my kids when they were toddlers!) They were discussing problems they were having with "crackers"! When they saw I was there, they became very embarrassed. BlessedMan 1 Quote >>>Texts in blue type are quotes<<< ***************************************************************************** And therefore as a stranger give it welcome. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. --Shakespeare from Hamlet ***************************************************************************** Bill Liversidge Seminars The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism
BlessedMan Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 The last few times something similar happened to me, I was called "white-wash." Thankfully, this does not happen much anymore. (to me) Quote (2 Cor 1:3-4) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. Light In The Clouds _____________________________ In Christ; and through The Spirit; "there is always a little Light..." (Micah 7:8).
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