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There are a lot of people who have been watching and are anxious regarding the ominous presence of the military in the Capitol. Many do not believe Biden will be sworn in. I am just watching my country crash and burn.

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Like B/W, I am so sad watching the United States crash and burn; running full speed ahead in the One World Order and the worship of the unholy trinity - politics, economics, and religion.  I was sure Trump would win the election.  I was sure that the election fraud would be unravelled before Biden took office.I was wrong.  I am sorely disappointed in both major political parties.  Neither of them have the interests of the American people at heart; they have the security of their own jobs as first priority.

Let's see:

We are now going to leave the wall that Trump spend billions to build unfinished.

We are now going to throw our southern border wide open to immigrants from God know where; giving them better health care, welfare, housing assistance and legal mercy than is available to citizens.

We are going to rejoin the Iranian Nuclear accord, enabling Iran to accelerate it's nuclear weapon program.

We are all gonna be required to wear masks for the next 100 days.

We're gonna make Obamacare "even better".

And that's just for starters! Dare I say more?

Come Lord Jesus - please come soon!

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Best one to kick it all off is

CANADA: Alberta Premier Threatens Sanctions Against US After ‘Insult’ of Biden Shuttering Keystone Pipeline

January 21, 2021  Constitutional Nobody  News
USSANews.com
Justin Trudeau, Joe Biden

President Biden’s move to cancel permits for the completion of the Keystone XL pipeline was met with disappointment and concern by Canadian leaders with one Canadian provincial leader suggesting sanctions against the United States.

In Biden’s first day in office, he executed 17 executive orders mainly reversing some significant accomplishments achieved during the Trump administration. Included in those executive orders was a directive to revoke the permits allowing for the completion of the Keystone XL pipeline.

The project, an impressive 1,700 mile pipeline, would have transported roughly 800,000 barrels of crude oil per day from Alberta, Canada, to the Texas Gulf Coast. The pipeline had permits to pass through Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma, with each state’s government approval and support.

 

The pipeline project, both in Canada and the United States, represented tens of thousands of jobs, both on the pipeline and in the support communities those construction jobs would require.

 

 

While the liberal Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, struck a conciliatory tone, the same cannot be said for the Premier of Canada’s Alberta Province.

Jason Kenney, the premier of oil-rich Alberta, said Mr. Biden’s termination of the projects permits was an “insult.” He went on to suggest that the Canadian government should impose trade sanctions on the United States if the decision is not reversed.

“It is an insult directed at the United States most important ally and trading partner on day one of a new administration,” Kenney said. “The leader of our closest ally retroactively vetoed approval for a pipeline that exists and which is co-owned by the Canadian government, directly attacking, by far, the largest part of the Canada US trade relationship, which is our energy industry and exports.”

On the other side of the border, the president of the US Chamber of Commerce’s Global Energy Institute, Marty Durbin, said the President’s decision is not grounded in science. He added that the move to scuttle the pipeline will put thousands of Americans out of work.

“The pipeline – the most studied infrastructure project in American history – is already under construction and has cleared countless legal and environmental hurdles,” Durbin said in a statement. “Halting construction will also impede the safe and efficient transport of oil, and unfairly single out production from one of our closest and most important allies.”

Biden is scheduled to have a phone conversation with Canada’s Prime Minister on Friday. Among the topics will be the status of the Keystone XL pipeline.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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I am happy that Biden won, unlike many here. I found trump to be a very cruel, divisive man, who held grudges, was mean to people, thought he owned the world. 

I find it  unfair about saying there  was election fraud.  No. It was not and even Republican Secs of State have said as much. It was a huge push for votes, including the minorities. We knew when trump starting dissing absentee ballots (with the exception of Florida because DeSantis told him a lot of the people who have residence in FL, are elsewhere many times, and vote by absentee ballot.If there was a problem, one would assume that it would be there, too)that he was worried about them. He couldn't control them. That's why DeJoy was hired. And that's why we returned them immediately almost upon receipt.   Anyway, because of the pandemic (which is why my family voted absentee--from FL as well. Came to another state for family emergency, and are stuck right now) and the fact that folks stood in line for hours, minorities really coming out in early voting, secured the presidency for the Democrats. Stacy Abrams did an awesome job in GA.

I understand completely how frustrating this must be for you. But there was no election fraud. They never presented evidence in court, and they had ample time. The My Pillow guy is running around with what he says is proof, but if it were, it would've been presented. 

I have seen here folks talking about trump and his faith in God. Biden goes to Mass a lot. Is he a problem because he is Catholic?  One of my other favorite presidents was Catholic--JFK, and he didn't let his religion affect his politics.

I know you and others here have a great respect for trump.  To me, he was Henry VIII reincarnated.

 

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8 minutes ago, Theophilus said:

I am happy that Biden won, unlike many here. I found trump to be a very cruel, divisive man, who held grudges, was mean to people, thought he owned the world. 

I know it is hard for some to wrap their heads around why Trump won and was a popular president with so many.

Running against Hilary it was a no brainer for many and the fact he actually kept his word . He was never elected for his personality

8 minutes ago, Theophilus said:

I find it  unfair about saying there  was election fraud.  No. It was not and even Republican Secs of State have said as much. It was a huge push for votes, including the minorities. We knew when trump starting dissing absentee ballots (with the exception of Florida because DeSantis told him a lot of the people who have residence in FL, are elsewhere many times, and vote by absentee ballot.If there was a problem, one would assume that it would be there, too)that he was worried about them. He couldn't control them. That's why DeJoy was hired. And that's why we returned them immediately almost upon receipt.   Anyway, because of the pandemic (which is why my family voted absentee--from FL as well. Came to another state for family emergency, and are stuck right now) and the fact that folks stood in line for hours, minorities really coming out in early voting, secured the presidency for the Democrats. Stacy Abrams did an awesome job in GA.

Voter fraud is a fact to many.  The way the mail in ballots are handled it is impossible for either you or I to prove pro or con.  Whether you admit it or not the dishonest biased behavior began before the vote with the media. You can bet if that computer  was one of the Trump siblings that would have been broadcast word for word up until the last minute.

8 minutes ago, Theophilus said:

 

I have seen here folks talking about trump and his faith in God. Biden goes to Mass a lot. Is he a problem because he is Catholic?  One of my other favorite presidents was Catholic--JFK, and he didn't let his religion affect his politics. I know you and others here have a great respect for trump.  To me, he was Henry VIII reincarnated.

Great respect for Trump??? The  private man??? ,or the president that ran on certain promises that were important to many and kept his word. That is what you and liberals cannot fathom. I don't recall reading on here where supporters were talking about Trump and his faith in God. I know I did not. That is not my area of expertise. UnIess someone chooses to profess it that is between that person and God. It is not between the Trump haters,God and Trump . Liberals/Trump haters don't have an inside view of someone else's faith in God.

Difference between the morals of Trump and the morals of your favorite Kennedy is one hid his tom cat behavior and the other did not. He was popular because of youth,looks,wealth,and his choice of wife but what made him a great president is he was assassinated .

Make some attempt to understand that a vote for Trump was not a vote of approval for his personal behavior..

The label of dishonest was used to describe Trump as-nausem, Biden supporters ignoring the proven recorded dishonesty of Biden since his college days.

Going to mass a lot is not a sign of saint hood or a deep christian commitment. Nor does it prove faith in God.

Given  less than personally desirable candidates of the two running most people vote for the one that most reflects their view of what they would like to see.

 

 

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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36 minutes ago, bonnie said:

Great respect for Trump??? The  private man??? ,or the president that ran on certain promises that were important to many and kept his word. That is what you and liberals cannot fathom. I don't recall reading on here where supporters were talking about Trump and his faith in God. I know I did not. That is not my area of expertise.

Trump has often been seen in the company of pastors praying over him. I have posted video links of where Trump acknowledged Jesus Christ.  He has been a protestant (forget the actual denomination).

It is one thing to take exception to a politicians policies, but the hatred expressed towards former President Trump has been appalling to watch for the four years he was in office and starting before he even became president and this will likely continue into the future and increasing be expressed towards any one who support him. This very hatred has been expressed right here on Adventistan and it has been frequently seconded, sadly to have to note. What really is plain to see that there is no forgiveness or reconciliation even among Adventists. The mockery and the hatred I believe has been observed by the Watchers and will come back to haunt people in judgement. This is a phenomenon that I am still contemplating. The level of hatred towards the man can only be evidence of the complete erasure of the image of God from many people and it continues. 

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    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism

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1 hour ago, Theophilus said:

I am happy that Biden won, unlike many here. I found trump to be a very cruel, divisive man, who held grudges, was mean to people, thought he owned the world.

So am I!! All you had to do is listen to his niece, Micheal Cohen, or any of those in his inner circle and I don't mean those that he pardon.

 

1 hour ago, Theophilus said:

I find it  unfair about saying there  was election fraud.  No. It was not and even Republican Secs of State have said as much. It was a huge push for votes, including the minorities. We knew when trump starting dissing absentee ballots (with the exception of Florida because DeSantis told him a lot of the people who have residence in FL, are elsewhere many times, and vote by absentee ballot.If there was a problem, one would assume that it would be there, too)that he was worried about them. He couldn't control them. That's why DeJoy was hired. And that's why we returned them immediately almost upon receipt.   Anyway, because of the pandemic (which is why my family voted absentee--from FL as well. Came to another state for family emergency, and are stuck right now) and the fact that folks stood in line for hours, minorities really coming out in early voting, secured the presidency for the Democrats. Stacy Abrams did an awesome job in GA.

I understand completely how frustrating this must be for you. But there was no election fraud. They never presented evidence in court, and they had ample time. The My Pillow guy is running around with what he says is proof, but if it were, it would've been presented. 

Exactly!! Even the stacked SCOTUS didn't even want to listen to him! They had no proof of anything!! What a joke his lawyers were, all they did was have news conference's and talk about all the proof they had, but when they got in front of a judge and were asked to supply this proof they couldn't!!

 

1 hour ago, Theophilus said:

I have seen here folks talking about trump and his faith in God. Biden goes to Mass a lot. Is he a problem because he is Catholic?  One of my other favorite presidents was Catholic--JFK, and he didn't let his religion affect his politics.

Well that's interesting because he told Michael Cohen what he thought of his evangelical friends.

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When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan. Proverbs 29;2
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Bonnie,

I was making a general post to all of the people who appreciate and back trump. It was not specifically to you. I brought up the religious thing because (I think it was Photodude)  had posted some you tube videos about trump and God. 

Wouldn't know why the Secs of State would lie. Many were Repubs.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, B/W Photodude said:

Trump has often been seen in the company of pastors praying over him. I have posted video links of where Trump acknowledged Jesus Christ.  He has been a protestant (forget the actual denomination).

It is one thing to take exception to a politicians policies, but the hatred expressed towards former President Trump has been appalling to watch for the four years he was in office and starting before he even became president and this will likely continue into the future and increasing be expressed towards any one who support him. This very hatred has been expressed right here on Adventistan and it has been frequently seconded, sadly to have to note. What really is plain to see that there is no forgiveness or reconciliation even among Adventists. The mockery and the hatred I believe has been observed by the Watchers and will come back to haunt people in judgement. This is a phenomenon that I am still contemplating. The level of hatred towards the man can only be evidence of the complete erasure of the image of God from many people and it continues. 

I have seen the pics. My point was it is not my place to determine the level of his faith. I will leave that to others here that seem to think there is an inside track for some to know that. As for Biden attending mass frequently so did Kennedy after playing musical beds with any willing? female he could. I dont necessarily see church attendance as proof of a mans faith.  

What I don't get about this whole thing is like you the level of hatred. They claim it is not hatred but I simply don't believe that.

Biden voters know beyond a doubt he is a liar,they can't deny both Obama and Biden were more than complicit in the Russian collousin lie,millions and millions wasted. Yet his word is golden and must be accepted regardless of the havoc he has already begun. I am far more interested in what Trump accomplished and what promises he kept.. 

Most saying negative things concerning Trump have enough of their own issues I would have to know a lot more before taking their "anonymous sources to the bank.

If they believe in the policies of Biden,whatever they turn out to be that is one thing,

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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12 minutes ago, Theophilus said:

Bonnie,

I was making a general post to all of the people who appreciate and back trump. It was not specifically to you. I brought up the religious thing because (I think it was Photodude)  had posted some you tube videos about trump and God. 

Wouldn't know why the Secs of State would lie. Many were Repubs.

 

 

Of which I am one   But not as often accused on here as a Trump worshiper.  Why does anyone lie???    Maybe for the same reason the FBI did,maybe the same reason Biden and Obama spying on private Trump and then President Trump. After knowing the media deliberately withheld the news on Hunter Biden and the Biden famiy.  After watching,reading and listening the last four years I believe very few.

For myself I did not vote Trump because of his faith in God.  Above the pay grade of a conservative.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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I am quite sure the decision to vote Biden for so many was simply he is not Trump. Never mind the policies. Have not heard one Trump hater/Biden voter condemn or show slightest concern about the censorship or the many businesses that are being ruined if they happened to support Trump. Interesting to what that will mean to christians in time to come or do you think voting Biden will somehow protect you and your interests. You think Trump is cruel, you are entitled to that. The actions being taken and approved by democrats either verbally or by silence is evil  and I am entitled to that

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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The inauguration pics on youtube likes and dislikes were edited by Youtube to make it seem that more people liked pics than disliked.  As of 130 pm Yesterday 1/21/2021 the dislikes were 6 to 1 more dislikes than likes. Four hours later at 530 pm 1/21/2021 Youtube edited the dislikes down so that the dislikes were 1.3 to 1 more dislikes than likes.  I witnessed this myself as I put in the all dislikes on all six videos.  and four hours later the totals had been edited to put the videos in a more favorable light.

This is just another reason why people are leaving big tech.

Leaving facebook.com for MEWE.com

Leaving Twitter.com for GAB.Com

Parler.com is down but they say they will try to get it up by end of month. Gab is stronger as they have their own IP and Servers so big tech has no hold on them.

Apple and google took GAB off their stores but  you can still get app from browsing it and putting it into browsers.

DO NOT use. GOOGLE.Com. Instead use DUCKDUCKGO.com.  They do not save cookies and sell your info. Everyone has noticed that once you look up a product on google you get annoying ads for that product.

use PatriotMedia for your cell phone rather than AT&T and Verizon as they are independent as there is talk of the big cell phones to ban emails or texts from conservative influencers

More people have been fired for being pro Trump than were fired during the McCarthy hearings on Communists in our society.

Use RUMBLE instead of Youtube 

Even some adventists pastors youtube posts have been deleted from Youtube when they cautioned against getting the hastily approved Vacination instead to wait a while to see if any side effects come out.

We have to revolt against Big Tech and go to other platforms. Already Facebook has lost Billions in the last few weeks. Twitter stock down 12 percent and falling.  They are paying for banning conservatives from their platforms.

 

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34 minutes ago, CyberGuy said:

Even some adventists pastors youtube posts have been deleted from Youtube when they cautioned against getting the hastily approved Vacination instead to wait a while to see if any side effects come out.

 

That was a very good list of misbehaviors by the "tolerant" left. Walter Veith has had one of his videos deleted by Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtzbMeczMDk

One thing not mentioned is the economic reprisals by these tech companies. The CEO of GAB has had his credit cards frozen. Donald Trump has had two banks shut down his accounts ( can you imagine a bank shutting down a billionaires accounts?!). And the deeper this gets the more you will see these coercive measures get used against those who resist the leftist ideologies. As they get closer and closer to digital currencies where "real money" is not longer used, the more this will happen to average Johns and Janes in the nations population. "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:17 The technology is developed to the point that someone only needs flip a "computer switch" and you are economically blocked.

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    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism

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On 1/21/2021 at 5:44 PM, Theophilus said:

They never presented evidence in court, and they had ample time.

There was plenty of evidence of voter fraud; but INHO it was not enough to overturn the election.  Besides almost none of the courts even read the evidence; they just turned it down "Lack of evidence can also mean "plausible deniability.

I actually hope that a new Third Party forms in the USA - a MAGA Party of a Patriot Party.  A political party that (at least initially) will have the people's interests at heart rather than their own job security.  Of course, I imagine that it too would eventually cave to self-preservation rather than what's best for America.

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Biden mandatory mask orders now extend to all federal buildings and property.  That would include national parks folks. So if you are hiking on trails in a national park you can be cited for not wearing masks if you take the orders as they are now.  A lot of the border wall has already been paid for so if they stop the building it would mean the government forfeits that money already spent on the wall. Also it is unlikely Biden will tear down the walls already built. he never said he would do that.

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Well, that more "ethical" and "less self interested" Joe is off to a great start! (Where is my Compazine?!)

SOURCES: Trump Offers His DC Hotel To Troops After Biden Admin Sends Them To Freezing Cold Garage

After the Biden administration send thousands of National Guardsmen to a freezing cold garage after the Inauguration “military photo op”, sources have told OAN’s Jack Posobiec that President Trump is about to come through in a big way.

Posobiec’s sources on Trump’s adviser team said that he has offered to house the abandoned troops at the Trump hotel in DC.

https://trendingpolitics.com/sources-trump-offers-his-dc-hotel-to-troops-after-biden-admin-sends-them-to-freezing-cold-garage/

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    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism

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Having observed that President Trump has been accused of inciting violence, note how this "demonstrator" was in the Capitol to support the President:

The FBI has arrested anarchist leader John Sullivan of Utah for participating in and committing various crimes during the riot at the U.S. Capitol Jan. 6.

He was quoted as saying, "We got to rip Trump from office" and "It's time for a revolution."

https://www.wnd.com/2021/01/arrest-capitol-siege-anarchist/

Oh yeah, only Trump incited violence. Oh wait! That is another Democrat lie. :

https://www.tiktok.com/@brianfitzyfitz07/video/6917620900359572742

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    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism

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On 1/22/2021 at 6:38 PM, JoeMo said:

There was plenty of evidence of voter fraud; but INHO it was not enough to overturn the election.  Besides almost none of the courts even read the evidence; they just turned it down "Lack of evidence can also mean "plausible deniability.

I actually hope that a new Third Party forms in the USA - a MAGA Party of a Patriot Party.  A political party that (at least initially) will have the people's interests at heart rather than their own job security.  Of course, I imagine that it too would eventually cave to self-preservation rather than what's best for America.

The problem here is many judges fear the left. Remember that one conservative judge who was doxed by the media. She had her address posted on social media. A gunman came to her house and killed her son and wounded her husband. She was in the basement at the time and was unharmed. Judges are afraid of making a ruling against the left because of the threat of violence against them and their families. One news media even showed the street address and house address on camara and showed where their kids went to school. This is such an obvious attempt at intimidation. Like saying Here is where their family is. I cannot do anything but you can. Which is why the press needs to be banned from doxing judges and politicians as it is a thin skinned attempt at intimidation.

A third party movement is a bad idea as a person with the most votes gets the entire electoral college votes of that state. So splitting the republican vote is a bad idea. That is how Clinton got into office in 1992 because Ross Perot split the republican vote with a third party movement.

Even our own church falls over themselves trying to fawn over Black Lives matter. Look at the issue of Pacific Union Recorder shortly after the Black Lives matter protests. BLM banners and protesters pictured on cover and in magazine. The backlash was swift and severe. Pacific Union backed off quickly with a very thoughtful statement on police brutality and this time no mention of the BLM movement.

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Little late it seems. Wonder if we will see more of this now that it doesn't matter to Biden

 

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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10 hours ago, CyberGuy said:

This is such an obvious attempt at intimidation. Like saying Here is where their family is. I cannot do anything but you can. Which is why the press needs to be banned from doxing judges and politicians as it is a thin skinned attempt at intimidation.

Attempted intimidation of conservative politicians and judges is now occurring in a wide variety of situations. We even have that former bartender congress person demanding that Ted Cruz and another senator who dared to challenge the votes to rwesign from the Senate. Unfortunately, Democrats have challenged the electoral votes for every republican president since 1985 and have attempted impeachment on every Republican since Nixon. But it seems a bit disingenuous to go nuts because six states got challenged in this election when they challenged 17 states in 2016!

Apparently even Supreme court justices are feeling intimidated. I keep hearing from the leftists that no judges agreed with the lawsuits regarding the election. But seems the staffers heard the Chief Justice screaming at the other justices that he wasn't going to have the case heard and then have riots in the streets! So much for fairness.

Again and again you hear people say there was no widespread election fraud. You do not need widesprad election fraud. You only need a few states. You will probably hear more and more evidence of election fraud as the years pass in this current regime and as the country go south through intentional mismanagement, it will get more and more difficult for the public to stomach what is happening.

Check out this link regarding the bitter pill the unions are facing after Keystone was cancelled resulting in tens of thousands of future jobs:

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/01/22/insulting-and-disappointing-unions-show-signs-of-voter-remorse-after-biden-reality-sinks-in-1019961/?

So, when your taxes are going up, your fuel charges are going through the roof, thousands are unemplowed, the US is no longer energy independent, people are pouring over the border and often getting more government support than citizens, tell me how much you are enjoying the current regime!

Third party may or may not be a good idea. But it would be wise for those Republicans who have joined the parade to impeach Trump to ponder the repercussions. Get a few in the senate and house to switch parties and we may have a real interesting situation. 

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    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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The Emergent Church and the Invasion of Spiritualism

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