Constantine and The Mark of The Beast

[phkrause]

Constantine and The Mark of The Beast - Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMPbaH_16gg

Constantine and The Mark of The Beast - Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFLiiBqCfOY

 

[stinsonmarri]

On 2/20/2021 at 6:09 PM, phkrause said:

Constantine and The Mark of The Beast - Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMPbaH_16gg

Constantine and The Mark of The Beast - Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFLiiBqCfOY

 

This is where I have a problem first, not once then he show in Scripture that the Bible said a woman was a church. Instead, he said the Jews and all other commentator said the woman was the church. Now, was the harlot Catholicism and I say yes. No where does it say "here is a church."  We need to understand the symbols as they are quoted. Gen 3:15 states the woman and Ms Adam was that woman. But an harlot woman will appear going against the woman of creation and marriage. She was never called a church, that is manmade and it if you follow him you will fall. Follow the harlot she was called Babylon a great city and not a church!

 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. Rev 17:18

Please read Rev 17 for yourself and you will find in Rev 11 that the beast will not appear until after the Time of Trouble is over and Dan Chapter 12  and all through Revelation this beast will have one hour. That is when there is no probation and intercession. He will then appear. No one today knows who this man is, he has not been reveal yet! He is no longer part of Catholicism and he will destroy this city during Armageddon, while YAHSHUA is on HIS WAY! THE FATHER will SPEAK IT HIMSELF and only the righteous one will know HIS actually time of appearance but the wicked will not understand, that is the 1,335 days found in Daniel Chapter 12. This mark of the beast is not correct and if you read for yourself you will see it. Please read the Bible yourself and Pray!

Happy Sabbath!

[Gustave]

The scholarship behind those videos is sorely lacking and the "facts" are anecdotal. Certainly, if one wants to disagree with how an organization does something more than anecdotal musings are needed to make a case. 

[Gregory Matthews]

Seventh-day Adventists, as a part of the Protestant community, have substantial disagreement with some doctrines that are held by Catholics.   Yet, we also have substantial agreement with other doctrines held by Catholics.  It would be wrong for us to think that just because some doctrine is taught by Catholics it is in error.

In addition, scholars, to also include SDA scholars, know more about the history of the development of Christianity than did our early pioneers.  Samuele Bacchiocchi has taken us beyond what James White  believed about the entry of Sunday into the worship of Christians.  As a historian, John Carter is not a recognized scholar, by other SDA Scholars.  His pronouncements should be taken with caution.

To leave Carter, and to move to another issue, as I am uncertain as to what Carter's position is on this, I will mention another subject.  For many years SDAs had a teaching that involved the Latin phrase Vicarius Filii Dei.  It was accepted as truth due to the fact that it supported what we wanted to believe about the Roman Catholic Church.  But, in actual fact it lacked historical support.

Today it is not generally talked about within Adventism.  It is no more than a favorite myth that we wanted to believe.

We must be careful to not allow our bias to color what we accept as truth.

 

[stinsonmarri]

On 2/27/2021 at 8:03 AM, Gregory Matthews said:

Seventh-day Adventists, as a part of the Protestant community, have substantial disagreement with some doctrines that are held by Catholics.   Yet, we also have substantial agreement with other doctrines held by Catholics.  It would be wrong for us to think that just because some doctrine is taught by Catholics it is in error.

In addition, scholars, to also include SDA scholars, know more about the history of the development of Christianity than did our early pioneers.  Samuele Bacchiocchi has taken us beyond what James White  believed about the entry of Sunday into the worship of Christians.  As a historian, John Carter is not a recognized scholar, by other SDA Scholars.  His pronouncements should be taken with caution.

To leave Carter, and to move to another issue, as I am uncertain as to what Carter's position is on this, I will mention another subject.  For many years SDAs had a teaching that involved the Latin phrase Vicarius Filii Dei.  It was accepted as truth due to the fact that it supported what we wanted to believe about the Roman Catholic Church.  But, in actual fact it lacked historical support.

Today it is not generally talked about within Adventism.  It is no more than a favorite myth that we wanted to believe.

We must be careful to not allow  our bias color what we accept as truth.

 

Pastor Matthews: That goes with a lot of things we believe. I do not believe nor does the Bible anything of the whore. She opposes everything of YAHWEH and the Bible says she is blasphemous. So how can you accept anything as truth from her? This does not include the people who do not know but are living up to all that they know.  When the remnant reaps the harvest a lot of these good and faithful people will leave her and be seal.

Again, I stick with the pioneers who was leading this church based on the Bible. Sister White in TM p. 105 if they did make error the Bible and not a man will show the truth. Today we, have become like the Ladioceans, who thinks they are rich and need of nothing. They have no clue that are wretched, poor, miserable, blind and even naked! The Bible said they need to buy pure gold and be counsel by YAHSHUA, also eyesalve that their eyes can truly be open. They will see that the whore has nothing to offer at all! TAKE THE BIBLE ONLY AND THE HOLY SPIRIT! HE WILL LEAD YOU INTO THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH! We all have a choice who we will choose the Bible or the blasphemous whore!

Happy Sabbath!

[stinsonmarri]

On 2/26/2021 at 8:06 PM, stinsonmarri said:

No where does it say "here is a church."  We need to understand the symbols as they are quoted.

The word "church" is from kuriakon or kyriakon in Greek, but it is known in Scotland as "kirk," in Germany as "Kirche," and in the Netherlands as "kerk." It means a building (the house of Kurios, or house of the Lord), in which in 1 Corinthians 8:5 it says that there are many lords, in which the custom of the Pagans was the worship of Sun Gods and reverence of them as being Lords. So referring to the church as the house of the Lord, is not denoting what Lord, because the meaning never did, so the people today have no idea they referring to an idol god. The word Kirche is similar to the Hebrew word (kikkar) Rkk, meaning a disk or circle thus meaning Sun Worship. The Sun was worshipped as Baal or Lord by a full circle of pagans, which is why pagans worshipped on the first day of the week, Sun-day, as those claiming to be christians are doing today unaware that they are actually pagans.

The word Church is found in the Anglo Saxon root word 'Circe', a minor goddess of magic (or sometimes a nymph, witch, enchantress or sorceress) who was the daughter of the Sun God worshipped as "Christos Helios", from whom the name Christ is derived from who was a Roman Sun god. The proper Hebrew word is Aqhal (Ihq) which means Assembly, Company, Congregation, called out as an organized body. So as you can see by the etymology of the word "Church", it is clearly of Pagan origin, and has nothing to do with the Most High nor his people, but has everything to do with those who worship the Sun as god on Sun-day, in their Roman Pantheon known as a Church. See what most people in these religious institutions don't know is that, Roman Emperor Constantine The Great in 321 AD, legislated Sun-day as a day of rest dedicated to the Greek and Roman Sun-god, Helios.

Constantine worshipped "Christos Helios" which means "Christ-The-True-Sun.

Church comes from the Anglo-Saxon root word "circe," and stems from the Greek name of the goddess "Circe," the daughter of "Helios," the Roman Sun-god adopted from Greek mythology. So today, these people in these religious institutions throughout the world, have been deceived into worshipping Helios in his daughter's name Church, and are really Pagans in every form shape and fashion. Modern Ghana