A Spiritual Journey

[Gregory Matthews]

Most of us have personal knowledge of a SDA pastor who has left the SDA ministry.  Some have gone to other denominational ministries.   Some have returned to SDA pastoral ministry.  I have a friend who did all of this.  The following is the story of one such.  Add it to your understanding of the spiritual journeys that some take.

https://atoday.org/a-tumultuous-confusing-love/

 

[stinsonmarri]

On 10/22/2021 at 6:56 PM, Gregory Matthews said:

Most of us have personal knowledge of a SDA pastor who has left the SDA ministry.  Some have gone to other denominational ministries.   Some have returned to SDA pastoral ministry.  I have a friend who did all of this.  The following is the story of one such.  Add it to your understanding of the spiritual journeys that some take.

https://atoday.org/a-tumultuous-confusing-love/

 

Yes, I have knowledge of pastors leaving the church. My girlfriend who have been an SDA and a Bible Worker, left and married a Baptist Preacher. My sister left and join other churches have return keeping the 7th day Sabbath. She stress she is not an SDA. I left myself and struggled with the church. I realize that the SDA message given by the pioneers was the correct path. 

This is what is confusing and totally not Biblically understood.

To my amazement, people responded with relief and enthusiasm as they discovered acceptance by grace through faith in Christ without the deeds of the law.

The church taught that beginning in 1844 God started checking the record of every Adventist to see if “the household of God” had gotten victory over their sins. He investigated the books, recording their provisionally forgiven sins. Nobody knew when their sins would come under review. Many Adventists lived in holy terror of this process. 

I too had suffered from this burden grievous to be borne. Because there is no security of salvation in this doctrine, and because it is a false.

Why is it that Adventist has issues or relate that other churches have with the Law of YAHWEH'S? When became organized after learning to keep the Sabbath; we realize that we had to keep the Commandments period! So, I do not understand what he mean about "the deeds of the law?" Another is the legality of the Law? It appears that we are making the same excuse that Satan made. The way we make is an excuse because we sin. Satan said he did not needed because he was made holy. He was justified being made holy, that he did not need YAHWEH'S Commandments to keep him holy. We complain we can't help for sinning because we born and shape in it so the Law is to legal for us to keep!

I know you close a thread because of the discussion about a particular sin. You felt and said a therapy was needed. This means that flesh beings therapy is better than THE LAW. Sin is sin, and if we cannot discuss and prove it is a sin; than how can a therapist help a sinner? This is where I feel the Church has come short! It does not realize what sin is, and does, and that it cannot be stopped. The Law is legal because it is the principle that is the standard throughout the universe. The Bible states that the angels must and do keep HIS Law!

The pastor said that in 1844 YAHWEH is only checking Adventist? Where did he get that from. The 1844 judgment scene is found in Revelation Chapter 4-6. I do notice that the church never really Scriptural wise realize that is the vision Hiram saw. All the vision EGW saw are in the Bible, so is the 1844.

When YAHSHUA, THE LAMB came and took the Book of LIFE, from HIS FATHER'S HAND, this Book had everyone names going back to the Adams. I know you will not agree with me. However, I only ask you to check it out. Here is one of the error or misunderstanding of the church. When the Book was open it showed from the very beginning who was saved and those who were not! This is Chapter Six! 

There were only four horses which symbolized the earth. The white before sin, red-first time earth tasted flesh blood, Black-how quickly paganism set in. Gray-the earth was beginning to die or decay. Sin did this to the earth by Satan and flesh beings. The earth is a living organism which also include all plant life, creatures and our. Life here lives from what is in the earth, however death comes for what was taking from the earth because of sin! So, that you understand, the Adams ate from the Tree of LIFE! But everything else existed and lived as well. When the Adam fail everything else fail. Not as fast before the flood, but faster afterward.

Chapter six also told you who the riders were and these riders and the people during that time were either in the Book of LIFE or blotted out. This is what took place in 1844. White horse rider were the Adams and they had a bow and a crown was given them over this earth, to subdue it. Note: the Paleo Hebrew word "αὐτός," does not necessarily just mean man. Men have the problem making the Bible speaking or choosing only them. The word could apply them! Those two people have been judge and placed in the Book of LIFE! We do not know how long they lived in the Garden! The next rider is Cain he cause the earth to taste, for the first time, his brother's blood. His children are not in the Book but the Bible said when Seth was born people was again in the Grace of THE MOST HIGH. We know Enoch and Seth children are in the Book. This was a very long period of time. But as their seed begin to marry Cain's children they were lost! The next rider is Nimrod, he brought on paganism! The eight living on the other side of the flood did not follow Nimrod. Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives are in the Book. Those that remain with them are! But this time spread to the faithful Canaanites like Melchisedec, the Amorites, some Phoenicians and others, Abraham, Jacob/IsraEL, 11 of his sons and Joseph son who was named in Revelation. This time went all the way to the time of YAHSHUA, HIS followers. The beginning of the martyrs.  It stopped when Paul saw iniquity will take place. The rider then became the pope, and during this time many martyrs gave up their lives. This was when the horses stopped. Under altar the martyrs were recognized and promise a crown and a white robe. The grey horse shows the time of the end and calamities increasing as the end of time approaches. This time will end after the Time of Trouble because the remnant and those who will wake will be like Elijah. They will have THE FULL POWER of THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE LATTER RAIN! This is when they will be in control and the papacy will rule Jerusalem/Babylon. There is more and I just ask you to check it out! I am the reader, YAHSHUA and THE HOLY SPIRIT ARE THE ONES who will show us the truth! I will continue to try and compel, but I do not have any power to force anyone. So, if you get angry or upset take it to YAHSHUA and leave it there!

Blessings to All and YAHSHUA also, add a blessing to the words written!

[Gregory Matthews]

Stinsonmarri said in the quote below:

The word that she cited is not a Hebrew word of any sort, let alone Paleo Hebrew.   It is a Greek word.  She is correct in stating that the word is not limited to males.

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Note: the Paleo Hebrew word "αὐτός,". . . .

[stinsonmarri]

Pastor Matthew: That was a mistake on part, meant to say Greek. I am working. When I have a break to keep from being idle I come to the forum. I am glad for the correction.

Thank You!

[Gregory Matthews]

We all make mistakes.