Is this for real???

[Nicodema]

How can anyone take this sort of nonsense seriously? How can they watch it without cringing at the thought that this is the view most people have of Christianity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=357QJPFNOU4&NR

All it is, is superstitious ignorant babble and drivel dressed up in a church suit!

[Nicodema]

This is even weirder, in a very different way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf5m1OBGUKU

[Gail]

Hmm... why does youtube sound familiar?... (thinking out loud)

[Gail]

Too hilarious

or sad...

[Guest]

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Nicodema said:

How can anyone take this sort of nonsense seriously? How can they watch it without cringing at the thought that this is the view most people have of Christianity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=357QJPFNOU4&NR

All it is, is superstitious ignorant babble and drivel dressed up in a church suit!

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Well, kerneythomas did say: "The Lord spoke to me..."

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[Amelia]

Ive been to a black SDA church that had music and dance somewhat like that.

[Nicodema]

I have too. In fact I've been to "white" and "mixed" churches that have music and dance similar to that! But even while there I've still wondered if maybe there isn't something to the more conservative concern of "what spirit is this coming from". And then every anthropological treatise I've ever read about religious fervor & expression being a sublimation of the sexual impulses, etc. comes into my mind.... I can't figure out what bothers me more here, or put my finger on the nature of what's bothering me. Is it (a) the confirmation of the anthropological perspective, which openly relegates religion to being something of a vestigial trait of primitive hominids sprouting from ritualistic expressions of sexuality; ( the fact of my occult background having long caused me to commingle sexual and spiritual impulses in worship now clashing with the more cerebral Christian prohibitions against such things as "pagan" while simultaneously exhibiting such commingling in this type of worship expression; © is Christianity *supposed* to be some sort of more "pristine" or "cerebral" religion which transcends the involvement of bodily arousals in its worship? (d) more that I can't begin to catalogue here ...

Of course these are just comments on the mixed feelings I have about video #2 above. The first one is just such superstitious drivel and nonsense, there is nothing about it for me to say except <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/icon_smile_sick.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/yucky.gif" alt="" />

[Gregory Matthews]

O. K. I went to "youtube" and attempted to find the video that you-al were talking about. Somehow I seem to have missed the instructions on how to view the videos. I could not figure it out, and I was not certain as to which video was referenced.

Yes, I attempted to register, and still I am in the dark as to how to view the video.

[phkrause]

Gregory it should just start right up.

pkrause

[Nicodema]

If you click the links in the first 2 posts it should just go ahead and play, or at least bring up the video with controls so you can push play. Maybe you are missing a browser plug-in, Gregory?